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Ocaasi

Again, welcome! Ocaasi (talk) 20:26, 13 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Hubbard

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Just to give you a heads up, you're editing one of the most controversial articles in the history of Wikipedia. It became a featured main page article yesterday and it has more editors watching it than almost any other article on the entire site. If you are going to make a definitive change from 'leader' to 'charlatan' on the basis of one court case, without demonstrating an understanding of our WP:NPOV policy, you're going to get reverted over and over. Read around a little and get a feel for how policy affects pages. Having a source is great, but it's not sufficient. The source must be compared to other sources and taken in the full context.

Also, encyclopedic writing always distinguishes points of view (WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV) so that readers know if something is widely held or just held by some, whether it is a fact or an opinion, or whether there is a dispute about it. Whether Hubbard is a charlatan depends on who you ask. If you ask the French court, they tell you one thing. If you ask a Scientologist, they tell you another. If you ask me, he's both, but if you ask a professor of New religious movements, they'd probably avoid the c-word. So there is a dispute. The term leader is actually neutral, since even a charlatan would be a leader--it just means head of the organization, something which is not disputed.

If you want to add the fact that Hubbard was ruled a charlatan by the french court, find the appropriate [history] section or [public reception] or [criticism] section, and add it with the source. Probably better to propose it on the talk page first; although WP:BOLD always applies, so does WP:BRD, especially on controversial articles and articles with WP:BLP or WP:LIBEL concerns.

Let me know if you have any questions, Ocaasi (talk) 20:55, 16 March 2011 (UTC)Reply