Jeremypoter

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{{Help me}} Hi Drmies. Thanks for you help. If you could, can we talk about how to properly publish a page? I have everything we need I believe I'm just not sure how to publish properly with the correct title. Thanks! Jeremypoter (talk) 22:55, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

July 2019

Your addition to Draft:Steph Jones has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. Bakazaka (talk) 00:29, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

{{Help me}} Also trying to figure out what to do here. Any advice would be appreciated! Jeremypoter (talk) 22:55, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

I think you meant to use this: {{Help me}} A volunteer helper will respond soon to answer questions you might have. For their benefit, I note that you are probably referring to Draft:Steph Jones. My involvement with that draft was limited to identifying a copyright violation, so my advice is simple: don't violate the copyright policy. Bakazaka (talk) 01:18, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

• Well, you can move it to mainspace by using the "Move" function, which is above the regular screen (for me it's under "More"). But if you move the draft in its current condition, it's going to be deleted very quickly, for a number of reasons--one of them being there isn't a single reliable secondary source in it, another that it's just a list. There isn't even any evidence that this person was responsible for these things. This is an encyclopedia, not a resume site--please see Wikipedia:Introduction, and for that article, maybe WP:FIRST. Drmies (talk) 01:26, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

(ec) But you need SOME content, Jeremypoter, not just tables, as Drmies says. Just don't "borrow" content from another source, like a book or website, which is a copyright violation. It needs to be original content, written by you.

For further help, I recommend you visiting Articles for Creation or the Teahouse both of which assist editors that are just starting out. Good luck! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:28, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Hey Guys! I did make that table myself! How do songwriters typically credit themselves? I see other wikipedia pages for songwriters formatted very similarly. I'm sorry I'm not trying to cut corners I just don't know exactly what to do. It looks like the paragraph i wrote out about her got deleted but i added it back in. Jeremypoter (talk) 01:40, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

It still lacks sources. Where does the information you've written come from? Can it be verified in published sources? Can you establish that this artist meets the criteria of NMUSIC? That requires citations to independent sources. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:46, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Did you also write the identical paragraph on the Disney Music Publishing site [1]? Bakazaka (talk) 02:06, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

There are a number of questions that you need to answer.

1. Are you connected with Steph Jones? If so, that may constitute a conflict of interest which you should disclose on your user page.
2. Are you being PAID to edit Wikipedia? Doing that without disclosure is a violation of Wikipedia's Terms of Use.
3. How does it happen that the photo you uploaded appears to be the same photo, with a different crop, appearing on the Disney website?

It's possible your account will be blocked if the required disclosures are not made. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:38, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

I did pull from Disney's description. If I credit the Disney page, which I intend on doing, will that be sufficient? Or should I re-write it altogether? Also - all of the songs that I listed are released and she's credited on Spotify or on various different websites. I'm not sure how to source that.

1. I'm just a big fan of hers!
2. I'm not being paid!
3. I pulled from the Disney website as well.

All of this information is factual! Just trying to figure out the best way to get the word out. Jeremypoter (talk) 18:04, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you are displaying a very sad lack of understanding of what's allowed on Wikipedia and what is not. There are other sites on which you can write about your enthusiasms, with less critical content requirements, but it will never be okay to take copyrighted material from the Mouse and use it elsewhere, even if you make an attribution. (Disney's corporate stance is well known; they are copyright maximalists.) But in this case, you called the uploaded photo "own work", probably because that was the easy way to get the uploader software to accept it, but it's not true and the photo will have to be deleted. And the copied paragraph will have to be deleted and revdeled again.

As for the list of works you've created, I don't know if that will be allowed. It seems to me to come awfully close to being the forbidden original research.

But for the article to survive, you must present independent references that establish that Steph Jones meets at least one of the criteria from the list in what constitutes notability for musicians. The existence of her work all by itself does not qualify and so far that is all you have attempted to record. Find the notability references before you attempt anything else. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:45, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

I see that the above-mentioned deletions have already occurred. Please do not re-add this material.

There's another potential problem: another musician is named Steph Jones and we're going to need more than a name appearing on a Spotify entry to figure out which Steph Jones is to be credited. Their genre's are admittedly different, but with all the crossovers and collaborations taking place in current music, some effort at positive identification is needed. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:57, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Steph Jones

Hello, Jeremypoter. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Steph Jones".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! JMHamo (talk) 20:47, 3 February 2020 (UTC)