Jgd19751207

August 2012

Hello, I'm DMacks. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made to Ravi Shankar (spiritual leader), because it didn't appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! DMacks (talk) 13:48, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's graduation year was 1975 and not 1974. What did you find objectionable in the edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgd19751207 (talk • contribs) 14:25, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

One part is my mistake...I was reading the year from the examination (in the middle of the certificate) not the graduation year at the bottom; 1975 is clearly correct. The other, which I stand by, is that the day of the week is excessive/irrelevant detail (no encyclopediac value, and if anyone cared, he could just use a calendar). DMacks (talk) 14:32, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

OK now am getting a hang of talk oh wiki. Apologies for my ignorance. The certificate itself seems to be fabricated. No university grants a degree on a Sunday !!! I do not think anyone would bother to check what day of the week 7th Dec 1975 was. It's a hard FACT. Why not put it there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgd19751207 (talk • contribs) 14:36, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

(don't worry, we were all newbies once:) If "it's a Sunday" is indeed significant as you say, then I agree that it's worth mentioning, but only if accompanied by some statement giving that context. Make sure to include a citation for a reliable source about that aspect--having a diploma from a Sunday is not unusual in some cultures. In general, the day-name is not part of any of the standard date-formats that WP uses (there's actually a formal style-guide specifying how to write dates WP:DATEFORMAT, and a bunch of templates and bots that all follow it pretty closely). DMacks (talk) 14:50, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

The concerns raised by User:Jgd19751207 do not appear to be valid. A lot of universities in India prefer to conduct their convocation ceremonies on a weekend or a non-working day. This is to allows faculty members to be able to take part in the elaborate ceremony without disrupting daily activities. See: 41st Convocation at IIT Delhi and 10th Annual Convocation of NITK, for example. Additionally, it should be our responsibility to cite authentic sources for information on Wikipedia but I don't see how forensic evaluation of a document lies under our purview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.100.137.217 (talk) 16:24, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks DMacks. I know that in some cultures working on Saturdays and Sundays is normal while on Fridays is not. I however belong to India, the same country as Sri Sri and can vouch that we do not work on Sundays (atleast not the universities, emergency services are different). I've no intention of putting up an explanation on wiki about Sunday because it's a hard fact that 7th Dec 1975 was indeed a Sunday. My only intent is to make people aware about not falling into a cult. If this minor change is unacceptable to you, go ahead and change it. I'll not contest it anymore. Seriously. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgd19751207 (talk • contribs) 15:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I left it in, but tagged it so hopefully others will be able to provide cited information. It sounds like you have good information to add, but are at risk of allowing emotion to overcome objectivity in the results of it. I also left a note on Talk:Ravi Shankar (spiritual leader) to get others' input (article talk-pages are a great place to centralize discussions about articles and work out content issues for them). DMacks (talk) 21:22, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

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