Jharris1993

Welcome and question about sources

Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw your edit to Jurat and I'm hoping you can provide a source for the idea that an electronic signature on a tax return, that has the same legal effect as an oath, is actually called a jurat. Also, is a source for the alternate spelling? --Gerry Ashton 00:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Source regarding crossover cables between old switches

In Ethernet crossover cable, you wrote that some old switches are sensitive as to whether or not pins 4 and 5 are crossed with pins 7 and 8 (while 10baseT/100baseTX only uses pins 1, 2, 3 and 6). This is a good thing to know, and is important enough that it deserves a reference, but I can't find one. Where would you recommending looking for a source? You can respond here. Thanks! — Elembis (talk · contribs) 07:32, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

It's a known, provable fact, but I can't cite sources because they're out of print, (or never existed) - how do we play this?

Elembis,

Since I'm new to this "Wikipedia" stuff, I might be stumbling over my own two feet here.. :-)

The "citation" for the "fussiness" of older systems is not something I can specifically cite in some book somewhere - it's something I, (and many other), network/IT people have learned the hard way.

Viz:

• My Intel Express 510T managed 24 port switch (newer equipment) doesn't care if just two pair, or all four pairs are swapped.

• However, my Bay Networks Bay Stack 350T 16 port managed switch (older equipment) has absolute fits if all four pairs are crossed. (i.e. - it won't autosense speed, sometimes won't respond to that port, etc.) However, with just TWO pair crossed - and the others straight-through - it's as happy as a clam.

Here we have a dilemma:

• This is an absolute and provable fact. I know it as certainly as I know gravity, and it's as easily proven. I can demonstrate this using my own equipment - and I've heard this from other tech's "around the water-cooler"
  • Unfortunately, these changes in technology often pass unnoticed, as it were, as a part of the natural evolution of the technology.
    • (Example) Where is the "citation" that tells us that older "home" router/firewall/NAT units sold eight or so years ago, top out at five-or-so megabit line rates - but newer units can easily handle the ten or even fifteen megabit broadband line-speeds that are available now.
    • When you stop and think about it - it makes absolute sense. Older home broadband equipment manufacturers didn't imagine fifteen-megabit-plus home broadband line speeds even in their NIGHTMARES, let alone *design* for it.
    • It's a fact. I have an older D-Link D-704 home broadband router that drove both me - and my broadband provider - absolutely CRAZY a month or so ago trying to find out why my broadband connection was apparently being throttled to five megabits when I was paying for ten megabit service... It took over six hours for us to discover the problem - entirely by accident - while they were all but ripping their head-end servers apart trying to find the problem!
      • "citation:" Tech support call to Charter Business Broadband tech-support, (Central Ma.), on October 24, 2007. (Call time - Start: appx. 11:05 AM EDT - End: appx. 4:37 PM EDT)
      • My boss at work was TOTALLY MIFFED at me because I got eff-all done for the entire day
    • It was so unusual an issue, (as far as the broadband provider was concerned), that they wanted to write it up as an internal tech-note for future tech-support calls. However, I can't "cite" this, neither do I have access to it. In fact, I can't guarantee they even WROTE the darn thing.

• This kind of network cable/equipment quirkiness is something that many people either overlook, or don't know about, so I felt it should be included...

• But I don't (can't?) cite a "source" because this information is "obsolete" and most manuals are already out-of-print, (and/or unavailable via the most diligent of web searches), so there's nothing to cite to. (Your own difficulty finding citations for this is a perfect example of the problem I face with a lot of this stuff...)

So - how do we play this?

• Provide helpful information people may well need?
• Or just let 'em rot in hell because we can't find some dusty 16th century Parlamentary precedent to cite?

IMHO - I'd rather provide the information - even if it's not absolutely citable - rather than let folks just squirm on the line, pounding their heads because nobody bothered to mention this.

What say ye?

Jharris1993 (talk)

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UTRS appeal #20247 was submitted on Jan 06, 2018 17:04:55. This review is now closed.

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