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Please don't copy content from other websites

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  Your addition to John Lovelady has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. The material appears to be substantially taken from: http://tgscoaster.com/cast/john-lovelady/. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text, or images borrowed from other websites, or printed material without a verifiable license; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. —C.Fred (talk) 02:35, 4 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

  • Again, Wikipedia may not use the text from Lovelady's website. The information there can be used as a source to write an original biography about him, but we can't use the text wholesale. Please do not re-add it to the article, as you did here. —C.Fred (talk) 03:06, 4 January 2014 (UTC)Reply


  Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at John Lovelady. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. You've been warned repeatedly that Wikipedia cannot use text that is under an all-rights reserved license, and there's no evidence that tgscoaster.com licenses text under Creative Commons or GFDL. Adding it again will likely result in your account being blocked. —C.Fred (talk) 03:32, 4 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Bear in mind that even if the website donates the material, there's no guarantee the article will stay in that version. Other editors can (and likely will) edit the article for tone. They'll also add additional material based on other sources. —C.Fred (talk) 05:03, 4 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

John Lovelady bio - how best to identify as creative commons?

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@C.Fred and Zenvalharo: Should I have the webmaster at tgscoaster.com add some sort of verbage on the John Lovelady portion of his website indicating that it is available for creative commons use? I do not want to reword the bio as doing so would be to edit john's own work. The webmaster at tgscoaster.com attempted to update the wikipedia page himself using the same content but was denied because his email address was not acceptable for some reason. Please, we are just trying to help an elderly gentleman set his own record straight; he has been overlooked for far too long and deserves to have his story told in his voice. Please help me find a way to do this. Thank you for your help! Jim Martin (jimmartin15@aol.com) --Jimmartin15 (talk) 04:05, 4 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

  • Honestly, I'm not sure how much help I can be here. Copyright law can be pretty complicated. That's what the experts over at WP:REREQ are really good with. If the webmaster is the first person to have published the exact text of this biography section, then it would be up to them. I'm not sure exactly how they do creative commons licenses, but I think they end up looking something like this, from WP:CC-BY-SA:

Creative Commons Deed This is a human-readable summary of the full license below.

You are free:

   to Share—to copy, distribute and transmit the work, and
   to Remix—to adapt the work

Under the following conditions:

   Attribution—You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work.)
   Share Alike—If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same, similar or a compatible license.

With the understanding that:

   Waiver—Any of the above conditions can be waived if you get permission from the copyright holder.
   Other Rights—In no way are any of the following rights affected by the license:
       your fair dealing or fair use rights;
       the author's moral rights; and
       rights other persons may have either in the work itself or in how the work is used, such as publicity or privacy rights.
   Notice—For any reuse or distribution, you must make clear to others the license terms of this work. The best way to do that is with a link to http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

Zenvalharo (talk) 05:00, 4 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

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@C.Fred and Zenvalharo: In regards to the John Lovelady article, how do I prove that I have the permission of the copyright holder to publish the work here? The first published appearance of this text was on tgscoaster.com, and I do have the permission of the owner of the site to use the text here. What do I need to provide to satisfy Wikipedia? The link for WP:REREQ seems to be more about obtaining copies of articles for citing sources, and not about proving copyright permission. Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated. Jim Martin --Jimmartin15 (talk) 18:08, 4 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials has instructions. In short, either change the notice on the biography page at tgscoaster.com to state it's a Creative Commons and/or GFDL license, or have the rightsholder send an email to Wikipedia with the declaration of consent.
In either case, publishing the work on Wikipedia means it will be placed under a license that allows unlimited distribution, including commercial distribution, of the work. —C.Fred (talk) 18:45, 4 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Jimmartin15, you are invited to the Teahouse

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