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Introduction

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Evacuation in the Soviet Union was the mass migration of western Soviet citizens and its industries eastward as a result of Operation Barbarossa, the German military invasion in June 1941.RowJay 13:17, 6 April 2018 (UTC) Over sixteen million Soviet civilians[1]and 1,523 large factories were moved to areas in the middle or eastern part of the country by the end of 1941.[3]RowJay 13:17, 6 April 2018 (UTC) Despite early German successes in seizing control of large swaths of the western USSR throughout 1941-1942, by 1945 the Soviet industrial capabilities and and official contingency plans turned back the Nazi invaders. Over 73000 tanks, 82000 aircraft and nearly 324,000 artillery pieces were eventually produced and utilized by the Red Army.[2]--RowJay 21:37, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Industry

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The speed of the initial German advance threatened not only Soviet territories and factories, civilian and military, but wholesale collapse of the nation's civilian economy. [3] Even with 1930s contingency plans and the formation, in 1941, of evacuation committees, such as the Council for Evacuation and the State Department Committee (GKO), most evacuations were handled by local Soviet organizations that dealt with the industrial movementsjust ahead of impending German attacks. Short sighted preparation in the overall mobilization of the western front led many in these councils to scour Moscow libraries for any resources pertaining to evacuations during the first World War.[4][5]RowJay 13:58, 6 April 2018 (UTC) Local committees eventually used the Five-Year Plan structure with 3,000 agents controlling the movement. Evacuation of industrial plants began in August of 1941 and continued until the end of the year.[6][7]The GKO oversaw the relocation of more than 1500 plants of military importance to areas such as the Urals, Siberia, and Central Asia.[8]--RowJay 21:34, 14 April 2018 (UTC) But, evidence shows that some evacuations, the transfer of machine tools and skilled workers to “shadow factories” in the east, began much earlier. The U.S. military attaché reported significant transfers of machines and men from the Moscow area to the east in late 1940 and early 1941. The rapid growth in production early in 1942 suggests that the evacuation started in 1940.[9]RowJay 22:21, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Lenin's Body

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In the face of the German advance and amidst the evacuations of industry and civilians, the Politburo made the decision to evacuate the embalmed body of Vladimir Lenin from its mausoleum in Red Square, where it had been on display since 1924.[10]

Lenin’s body was removed in secret and sent far from the western front and away from any industrial areas threatened by German bombers. The city of Tyumen, approximately 2,500 kilometers east of Moscow, was its chosen destination. In June 1941 Lenin’s body was encased in paraffin and placed in a wooden coffin that was then nested inside a larger wooden crate. Along with the body were sent chemicals and implements necessary for the continued preservation of the body. The crate was placed on a dedicated train secured by a selected group of Kremlin Guards. The body had its own private car and a personal guard around the clock. Additional soldiers were posted along the tracks and stations on the train’s route east.[11]

On arrival in Tyumen the body was housed in a dilapidated building on the campus of the Tyumen Agricultural Institute. The conditions necessitated the acquisition of additional chemicals and distilled water from the city of Omsk, a further 600 kilometers east of Tyumen.[12]

Lenin’s body was returned to Moscow in April 1945.[13]Jrlane1 (talk) 16:22, 6 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Civilians

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The word evacuation or evakuatsiia in 1941 was a somewhat new word that some described as “terrible and unaccustomed.” For others, it was simply not used. "Refugee" or bezhenets was far too familiar given the country's history of war. During World War II refugee was replaced by evacuees. The shift in wording showed the government's resignation to the displacement of its citizens. The reasons for controlling the displaced population varied.[14]Joecantu1134 (talk) 01:51, 12 April 2018 (UTC) Despite some preferring to consider themselves evacuees the term referred to different individuals. Some were of the “privileged elite" class Those who fell under this category where scientist and specialized workers, artist, writers and politicians. These elite individuals were evacuated to the rear of the country. The other portion of the evacuated were meet with a suspicious eye. The evacuation process despite the Soviets best efforts, was far from organized. The state considered the majority of those heading east as suspicious. Since a large majority of the population were self evacuees they had not been assigned a location for displacement. Officials feared the disorder made it easy for deserters to flee. Evacuees who did not fall under the “privileged elite” title were are also suspected of potentially contaminating the rest of the population both epidemically and ideologically.[15]Joecantu1134 (talk) 22:20, 20 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

From the beginning of the 20th century Russia had been engulfed in war.[16]If this war bread society was taught anything it was the importance of mobilizing both its industry as well as civilian population.[17] The Russian Civil War and World War 1 gave the Bolsheviks the experience to shape their future evacuation strategies.[18]Preparation for future war started in the early 1920’s but it wasn’t till the war scare of 1927 that they start developing defensive measures, these measures included evacuation policies. These policies were not formed as a humanitarian effort but as a way for the country to defend itself. They needed to avoid the past issues such as: hindrance of military movement, spread of disease, and demoralizing of units as well as strains on the economy.[19] The Council of Labor and Defense was in charge of drafting these policies along with other Soviet administrations[20]Joecantu1134 (talk) 17:58, 15 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Leading up to the evacuations of Civilians and Industry in 1941 Soviet Union, German Führer Adolf Hitler signed Directive 21 formally known as Operation Barbarossa(Directive #21), breaking the German-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact and mobilizing the largest German army in history.[21]Joecantu1134 (talk) 11:16, 11 April 2018 (UTC)To Hitler, Bolsheviks, Jews, and Slavs were all enemies of the Reich to be eliminated. He considered the land to the East as “waste and empty.” He wanted to shape it for the future Master race with no regard for its current inhabitants[22]. Hitler’s plan to invade the Soviet Union would pave way for a refugee population that was estimated to mirror that of WWI.Reply

Operation Barbarossa flooded the interior of Russia with millions of Russian evacuees. Although the exact number is hard to approximate since many evacuated themselves rather than by the states directive.[23] Some put the number at about sixteen and a half million.[24]Joecantu1134 (talk) 11:10, 20 April 2018 (UTC) One of the most welcome sights for refugees during the evacuations was Tashkent, capital of Uzbekistan, which eventually housed tens of thousands of refugees. However, due to the vast number of refugees the train stations were overcrowded and the distribution of train tickets could take days.Svincen367 (talk) 05:58, 7 April 2018 (UTC) [25]Even with the war drawing to an end evacuee’s who were desperate to go back home where not granted permission. The re-evacuation policy was written around those not working in industry. These citizens lost their residence to their city of origin, therefor were not part of the re-evacuation process. Anybody who tried to return with out consent face jail time. Despite the many roadblocks and issues the Soviet state managed to do what no other European country could. Evacuate millions of its citizen to the safety of the rear.[26]Joecantu1134 (talk) 13:54, 21 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

With a shortage of labor, the Commissariat of Justice in conjunction with the Council of People’s Commissars forced evacuees to work in enterprises, organizations and on collective farms to help the war effort. Those chosen for the labor force were those deemed as socially unproductive. People who did not work for a set wage such as artist, writers and artisans were excluded from this new decree. Problems did arise with workers motivation to work. Some argued they would be going back home soon others were not happy with the wage they would receive arguing the government would give almost as much if they didn’t work.[27]Joecantu1134 (talk) 13:54, 21 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

As winter approached and the war intensified around Moscow the Moscow Oblast Committee of the Communist Party and the Executive Committee of the Moscow Oblast Council found it of great importance to evacuate women and children from the suburbs. They request to the Evacuation Council of the Soviet Council of Peoples Commisariats was as follows 300,000 • Assigned destinations • People Commissairat of Transportation was to transport the evacuees from the Moscow suburbs[28]Joecantu1134 (talk) 20:04, 13 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

When it came to the evacuation of children officials were ill prepared for the task. The children who were transported to Moscow were done so in barges which had no side railing. Subsequently children would fall over board. First had accounts from children state that the boats had been previously used for the transportation of flour. Water was rarely given and when it was they were only allowed a few gulps from what was described as “putrid.” They slept on crowded floors. On one account a child wrote to his parents that he was eating well. He wrote about having bread and tea for breakfast, and for lunch he would eat cabbage soup.[29]Joecantu1134 (talk) 20:04, 13 April 2018 (UTC)Reply


Jewish Families in The Soviet Union

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There were as many as 3,000,000 Jews killed in The Soviet Union during World War II by the Einsatzgruppen[30].

The Soviet Union had added nearly 2,000,000 Jews to its population between 1939 and 1940[31]. Many of these came from recently annexed Poland, but they came from other areas as well. After the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact the USSR and Germany each took over large portions of former countries, including Poland, the Baltic region, and Romania. In Romania, the USSR took mostly eastern portions, including Bessarabia and northern Bukovina. It is estimated that around 250,000 Jews were living in Bessarabia and Bukovina at the time[32]. Another 120,000 Jews flowed into the newly annexed Bessarabia and Bukovina from the now Nazi occupied Romania[33]. By the late spring of 1941 there were as many as 415,000 Jews living in Soviet controlled Bessarabia and Bukovina. Around 10,000 of these newly Soviet Jews were deported into the interior of Russia for various reasons, many of them ending up in the Red Army[34]. There is evidence that the Soviet government made some efforts to incorporate these displaced Jewish citizens into Soviet society. The creation of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee is one example of this[35]. Many Jews living in the now Nazi occupied parts of Romania and Poland were not keen to move to Russia, whose policies toward religion did not favor them. Many underestimated the dangers of the impending Nazi war machine and paid the ultimate price. Many Jews that fled into Russia from Germany had a saying, "better Stalin than Hitler"[36]

When Germany invaded Russia in 1941 most of the Jewish citizens living in these regions were murdered by the Nazis but some Jewish families fled east into Russia. While the Soviet Union did not keep records specifically relating to Jews, it is estimated that 300,000 Soviet citizens were evacuated from Moldavia to places like Kazakhstan[37]. It is unknown how many of these citizens were Jewish. In February 1942 there were as many as 45,000 displaced Jewish citizens from the Moldavian region living in Uzbekistan[38].(Vsquad93 (talk) 23:59, 14 April 2018 (UTC)). There were around 80,000 - 85,000 Jews from the Moldavian region displaced to each of the other Soviet states by early 1942.[39]. (Vsquad93 (talk) 01:21, 15 April 2018 (UTC))Reply

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The Bolsheviks used their experience from the Russian Civil War and World War 1 to shape their future evacuation strategies. Not till the war scare in 1927 did they start developing defensive measures, these measures included evacuation policies. These policies were not formed as a humanitarian effort but as a way for the country to defend itself. They needed to avoid the past issues such as: hindernce of military movement, spread of disease, and demoralizing of units as well as strains on the economy. They estimated that the refugee population during this time would mirror that of WW1[40]2605:6000:7AC5:D00:4D09:BF7D:30BE:6A56 (talk) 11:44, 13 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

As winter approached and the war intensified around Moscow the Moscow Oblast Committee of the Communist Party and the Executive Committee of the Moscow Oblast Council found it of great importance to evacuate women and children from the suburbs. They request to the Evacuation Council of the Soviet Council of Peoples Commisariats was as follows • 300,000 • Assigned destinations • People Commissairat of Transportation was to transport the evacuees from the Moscow

       suburbs[41]Joecantu1134 (talk) 20:04, 13 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

When it came to the evacuation of children officials were ill prepared for the task. The children who were transported to Moscow were done so in barges which had no side railing. Subsequently children would fall over board. First had accounts from children state that the boats had been previously used for the transportation of flour. Water was rarely given and when it was they were only allowed a few gulps from what was described as “putrid.” They slept on crowded floors. On one account a child wrote to his parents that he was eating well. He wrote about having bread and tea for breakfast, and for lunch he would eat cabbage soup.[42]Joecantu1134 (talk) 20:04, 13 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Government

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With Stalin and the Communist Party's Central Committee knowing that Hitler would eventually turn on the Soviet Union, there were plans made before Operation Barbarossa was launched to begin the evacuation as a precaution to Nazi assault. A Party man in Moscow involved in that city's evacuation committee, Vasilii Prokhorovich Pronin, submitted a plan that would have removed some one million Muscovites, but it was rejected by Stalin. It would have to wait for the actual invasion before the Party enacted any real plan for evacuation.

Two days after the German invasion of June 22, 1941, the Party created an Evacuation Council in an attempt to create a procedure for the coming evacuation of Soviet citizens living close to the Eastern Front. It identified cities along major train routes of the USSR in which people could be removed and taken quickly because they were easily accessible by railroad. As of September, three months following the invasion by the Nazis, the Evacuation Council had 128 centers identified and operating. Prominent city centers that received evacuated citizens (as well as other resources and industry) include Kirov, Iaroslavl, Gorky, Ufa, Sverdlovsk, Cheliabinsk, and Kuibyshev.

Further measures were instated by the Party in order to help dispersed evacuees settle in to life in their new location. Evacuees new to a city were instructed to contact the local authorities so that they could be accounted for. Following this, they received a certificate declaring their evacuee status and allowing them to receive lodgings, food rations, and temporary employment. Evacuees were told that they were allowed to bring personal belongings with them as long as it didn't hinder the authorities' abilities to get them from the evacuated site to the refuge center. Family members' belongings were not to exceed 40 kilograms in weight.

Another instruction from the Central Committee during the months of August and September was for regional governments to build temporary housing for the new-comers if there was not enough existing in that region already. This preceeded the measure enacted in November when the Party agreed to establish an Evacuation Administration, thus taking the power out of the hands of regional authorities and centralizing it within the Communist Party. This led to offices of the said agency popping up throughout the evacuation center cities and regions so as to better regulate and look after the dispersed evacuees. The agents of the Evacuation Administration were in charge of making sure that the evacuees were being well taken care of in their new locations. An added concern, in addition to housing, employment, and food, was health care and child care.

As of the early months of 1942, still under the one-year mark of being at war with Germany, the government in Moscow had already spent three billion rubles on the evacuation effort. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conortleonard (talkcontribs) 03:23, 9 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

This has been the work of Conortleonard (talk) 23:24, 6 April 2018 (UTC)ConortleonardReply

I will cite Larry E. Holmes' book at a later time, but all of the information above is pulled from his book on the evacuation.

Down here I will include information I have received about government during the evacuation that I accessed after drafting what I have written above. In a later step, I will proceed and merge my draft above with the information provided below.

Before the war, most of the industry done in the USSR was done in its western regions. The Party did experiment with a second industrial region in the eastern parts of the Soviet Union, but not to the extent that it would reach in the times of war. Thanks for Operation Barbarossa, the Soviets lost a great deal of territory in the initial invasion, thus having some of its citizenry and industry fall on the western side of the Eastern Front in the fighting between the Germans and the Russians. In light of the invasion, the Party realized that it must remove its



Many citizens preferred to consider themselves as evacuee’s over either refugee or deportee. Refugee carried along a stigma from World War 1, poverty, hunger and homelessness. If anything was certain as a refugee, it was death. A lot of these fear came from the distrust the citizens had in their own government and its ability to provide for them. The fear of being taken miles from your home with no guaranteed home or job was enough for some to downright refused leave saying “we’re not going to go to a hungry death.”[43]Joecantu1134 (talk) 19:41, 20 April 2018 (UTC)Reply


With a shortage of labor, the Commissariat of Justice in conjunction with the Council of People’s Commissars forced evacuees to work in enterprises, organizations and on collective farms to help the war effort. Those chosen for the labor force were those deemed as socially unproductive. People who did not work for a set wage such as artist, writers and artisans were excluded from this new decree. Problems did arise with workers motivation to work. Some argued they would be going back home soon others were not happy with wage they would receive arguing the government would give almost as much if they didn’t work.[44]Joecantu1134 (talk) 13:54, 21 April 2018 (UTC)Reply



Jewish Families in The Soviet Union

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There were as many as 3,000,000 Jews killed in The Soviet Union during World War II by the Einsatzgruppen[45].

The Soviet Union had added nearly 2,000,000 Jews to its population between 1939 and 1940[46]. Many of these came from recently annexed Poland, but they came from other areas as well. After the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact the USSR and Germany each took over large portions of former countries, including Poland, the Baltic region, and Romania. In Romania, the USSR took mostly eastern portions, including Bessarabia and northern Bukovina. It is estimated that around 250,000 Jews were living in Bessarabia and Bukovina at the time[47]. Another 120,000 Jews flowed into the newly annexed Bessarabia and Bukovina from the now Nazi occupied Romania[48]. By the late spring of 1941 there were as many as 415,000 Jews living in Soviet controlled Bessarabia and Bukovina. Around 10,000 of these newly Soviet Jews were deported into the interior of Russia for various reasons, many of them ending up in the Red Army[49]. There is evidence that the Soviet government made some efforts to incorporate these displaced Jewish citizens into Soviet society. The creation of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee is one example of this[50]. Many Jews living in the now Nazi occupied parts of Romania and Poland were not keen to move to Russia, whose policies toward religion did not favor them. Many underestimated the dangers of the impending Nazi war machine and paid the ultimate price. Many Jews that fled into Russia from Germany had a saying, "better Stalin than Hitler"[51]

When Germany invaded Russia in 1941 most of the Jewish citizens living in these regions were murdered by the Nazis but some Jewish families fled east into Russia. While the Soviet Union did not keep records specifically relating to Jews, it is estimated that 300,000 Soviet citizens were evacuated from Moldavia to places like Kazakhstan[52]. It is unknown how many of these citizens were Jewish. In February 1942 there were as many as 45,000 displaced Jewish citizens from the Moldavian region living in Uzbekistan[53].(Vsquad93 (talk) 23:59, 14 April 2018 (UTC)). There were around 80,000 - 85,000 Jews from the Moldavian region displaced to each of the other Soviet states by early 1942.[54]. (Vsquad93 (talk) 01:21, 15 April 2018 (UTC))Reply

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The Bolsheviks used their experience from the Russian Civil War and World War 1 to shape their future evacuation strategies. Not till the war scare in 1927 did they start developing defensive measures, these measures included evacuation policies. These policies were not formed as a humanitarian effort but as a way for the country to defend itself. They needed to avoid the past issues such as: hindernce of military movement, spread of disease, and demoralizing of units as well as strains on the economy. They estimated that the refugee population during this time would mirror that of WW1[55]2605:6000:7AC5:D00:4D09:BF7D:30BE:6A56 (talk) 11:44, 13 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

As winter approached and the war intensified around Moscow the Moscow Oblast Committee of the Communist Party and the Executive Committee of the Moscow Oblast Council found it of great importance to evacuate women and children from the suburbs. They request to the Evacuation Council of the Soviet Council of Peoples Commisariats was as follows • 300,000 • Assigned destinations • People Commissairat of Transportation was to transport the evacuees from the Moscow

       suburbs[56]Joecantu1134 (talk) 20:04, 13 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

When it came to the evacuation of children officials were ill prepared for the task. The children who were transported to Moscow were done so in barges which had no side railing. Subsequently children would fall over board. First had accounts from children state that the boats had been previously used for the transportation of flour. Water was rarely given and when it was they were only allowed a few gulps from what was described as “putrid.” They slept on crowded floors. On one account a child wrote to his parents that he was eating well. He wrote about having bread and tea for breakfast, and for lunch he would eat cabbage soup.[57]Joecantu1134 (talk) 20:04, 13 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Government

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With Stalin and the Communist Party's Central Committee knowing that Hitler would eventually turn on the Soviet Union, there were plans made before Operation Barbarossa was launched to begin the evacuation as a precaution to Nazi assault. A Party man in Moscow involved in that city's evacuation committee, Vasilii Prokhorovich Pronin, submitted a plan that would have removed some one million Muscovites, but it was rejected by Stalin. It would have to wait for the actual invasion before the Party enacted any real plan for evacuation.

Two days after the German invasion of June 22, 1941, the Party created an Evacuation Council in an attempt to create a procedure for the coming evacuation of Soviet citizens living close to the Eastern Front. It identified cities along major train routes of the USSR in which people could be removed and taken quickly because they were easily accessible by railroad. As of September, three months following the invasion by the Nazis, the Evacuation Council had 128 centers identified and operating. Prominent city centers that received evacuated citizens (as well as other resources and industry) include Kirov, Iaroslavl, Gorky, Ufa, Sverdlovsk, Cheliabinsk, and Kuibyshev.

Further measures were instated by the Party in order to help dispersed evacuees settle in to life in their new location. Evacuees new to a city were instructed to contact the local authorities so that they could be accounted for. Following this, they received a certificate declaring their evacuee status and allowing them to receive lodgings, food rations, and temporary employment. Evacuees were told that they were allowed to bring personal belongings with them as long as it didn't hinder the authorities' abilities to get them from the evacuated site to the refuge center. Family members' belongings were not to exceed 40 kilograms in weight.

Another instruction from the Central Committee during the months of August and September was for regional governments to build temporary housing for the new-comers if there was not enough existing in that region already. This preceeded the measure enacted in November when the Party agreed to establish an Evacuation Administration, thus taking the power out of the hands of regional authorities and centralizing it within the Communist Party. This led to offices of the said agency popping up throughout the evacuation center cities and regions so as to better regulate and look after the dispersed evacuees. The agents of the Evacuation Administration were in charge of making sure that the evacuees were being well taken care of in their new locations. An added concern, in addition to housing, employment, and food, was health care and child care.

As of the early months of 1942, still under the one-year mark of being at war with Germany, the government in Moscow had already spent three billion rubles on the evacuation effort. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conortleonard (talkcontribs) 03:23, 9 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

This has been the work of Conortleonard (talk) 23:24, 6 April 2018 (UTC)ConortleonardReply

I will cite Larry E. Holmes' book at a later time, but all of the information above is pulled from his book on the evacuation.

Down here I will include information I have received about government during the evacuation that I accessed after drafting what I have written above. In a later step, I will proceed and merge my draft above with the information provided below.

Before the war, most of the industry done in the USSR was done in its western regions. The Party did experiment with a second industrial region in the eastern parts of the Soviet Union, but not to the extent that it would reach in the times of war. Thanks for Operation Barbarossa, the Soviets lost a great deal of territory in the initial invasion, thus having some of its citizenry and industry fall on the western side of the Eastern Front in the fighting between the Germans and the Russians. In light of the invasion, the Party realized that it must remove its industry eastward in order to survive during the war years, otherwise facing defeat to the invading Nazis.

The bulk of the relocation was done in the months immediately following the invasion, the summer and fall of 1941. It followed along the lines of the movements of the war. As the Germans pushed more to the east, the Soviets evacuated more industry away to the eastern regions away from the front line of the fighting. This shows why the first place that was evacuated of its industry was the Ukraine, followed by Stalingrad, and then proceeding to Moscow. Conortleonard (talk) 03:36, 9 April 2018 (UTC)ConortleonardReply

Lieberman, industry evacuation in WWII is source. Again, expect an actual citation in a later draft.

Notes on Stalin's movements: upon initial attack by Germany, Stalin was shocked and spent a week in Dacha before he was beckoned back to Moscow. When Moscow was threatened early in the war, he again retreated to Dacha.[58] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conortleonard (talkcontribs) 17:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Edits

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Yes, Industry will have a lot more info as soon as we get the final draft going. This section will have a lot more content soon. There is so much more to these evacuations when concentrating on industry. One only has to look at the thousands of plants, issues of moving parts, how to transport factories by trains, ect. Actually, as I just wrote about transporting parts by trains, I thought about maybe using trains as a section as well. Trains were the main source of transport during these evacuations, not mentioning the ria car use also were important to move troops toward battle. But then again, rail cars and transport of materials by trains is another subject, if we are to go by the guidelines Wiki has set in place. RowJay 00:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC) Overall I think your article is great! It was all interesting, but I found the section on Lenin's body especially fascinating. There wasn't very much information on the movement of industry although it was mentioned in the lead. Maybe there should be more?

These two sentences under the heading "Civilians" didn't seem to flow: "The purpose to attack the former ally? To attain resources for the Nazi war machine." I also don't think it's a good idea to ask questions in an article. Later in the section, what do you mean by "refuge's?"

The very first sentence under the heading "Government" could maybe be revised or split into two separate sentences--it seemed to run on and was a bit awkward. You mention healthcare and childcare at the very end but it might be good to expound a little bit more.

Great job guys!Ariannemix (talk) 00:37, 8 April 2018 (UTC)Reply


Your article is on a great path. I enjoyed reading the Lenin's Body section, but I like that you included civilizans separately, and had a thorough explanation. I agree with the other reviewer about asking questions within the article, that threw my off as I was reading, and started to step into the unbalanced area. Other than that, this article is well planned, great sources, I cannot wait to see the finished product. Carr63 (talk) 00:02, 9 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

I also enjoyed the section on Lenin's body, lots of interesting details and facts there. The first paragraph of the Government section doesn't seem to flow as well as the rest, maybe some edits could be done there. In all a great piece. Rstever2018 (talk) 04:49, 9 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Your article has a good, simple introduction. As has already been pointed out, some of the wording and sentence choices feel a little out of place and maybe could be a little more professional, but the information you have is good. Some parts do feel unnecessarily wordy while some others feels brief and overly casual. The long section on the transportation of Lenin's body was great, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds weird, obscure details like that interesting. Wdixon5 (talk) 17:20, 9 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Deportation as a part of the evacuation

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If we do choose to use this information or not, I just wish to supply it from the McCauley text in order to get it on here if we do decide to.

Deported nationalities and the years when deportation occurred
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  • 1941 : the Volga Germans
  • 1943 : the Karachai
  • 1943 : the Kalmyks
  • 1944 : the Chechens
  • 1944 : the Ingushi
  • 1944 : the Crimean Tatars
  • 1944 : the Greeks

The deportation and resettlement of these peoples occurred during the war years as a result of Stalin and the Party questioning their loyalties to the Soviet Union. It was believed that they would turn to the German side and thus this action was done as a precaution to such. An exception were the Crimean Tatars, who were suspected of disloyalty to the Soviet Union during war time because they were Muslims. In all, it is estimated that 3.3 million people were deported away from their national homelands during the war years. It was not until 1956 that these peoples were finally given the opportunity to resettle back in their native lands that they had lived in before the Great Patriotic War. A few exceptions to this resettlement effort were the Crimean Tatars and the Volga Germans.

Conortleonard (talk) 17:44, 10 April 2018 (UTC)ConortleonardReply

  1. ^ Manley, Rebecca, and Rebecca Manley. “To the Tashkent Station Evacuation and Survival in the Soviet Union at War.” To the Tashkent Station Evacuation and Survival in the Soviet Union at War, Cornell University Press, 2009, p.7-8
  2. ^ Freeze, Gregory L.. Russia, A History, Oxford University Press, 1997, p.330
  3. ^ Harrison, Mark. Soviet and East European Studies, Soviet Planning in Peace and War 1938-1945, Cambridge University Press, 1985, p.79
  4. ^ Harrison, Mark. Soviet and East European Studies,Soviet Planning in Peace and War 1938-1945, Cambridge University Press, 1985, p.79
  5. ^ Freeze, Gregory L.. Russia, A History, Oxford University Press, 1997, p.330
  6. ^ Dunn, Walter S. Jr., The Soviet Economy and the Red Army 1930-1945, Praeger Publishers, 1995, p.32
  7. ^ Harrison, Mark. Soviet and East European Studies, Soviet Planning in Peace and War 1938-1945, Cambridge University Press, 1985, p.79
  8. ^ , Gregory L.. Russia, A History, Oxford University Press, 1997, p.330
  9. ^ Dunn, Walter S. Jr., The Soviet Economy and the Red Army 1930-1945, Praeger Publishers, 1995, p.32
  10. ^ Braithwaite, Rodric (2007). Moscow 1941 : a city and its people at war (Rev. and updated paperback ed. ed.). London: Profile Books. p. 94. ISBN 9781861977748. {{cite book}}: |edition= has extra text (help)
  11. ^ Braithwaite, Rodric (2007). Moscow 1941 : a city and its people at war (Rev. and updated paperback ed. ed.). London: Profile Books. p. 94. ISBN 9781861977748. {{cite book}}: |edition= has extra text (help)
  12. ^ Braithwaite, Rodric (2007). Moscow 1941 : a city and its people at war (Rev. and updated paperback ed. ed.). London: Profile Books. pp. 94–95. ISBN 9781861977748. {{cite book}}: |edition= has extra text (help)
  13. ^ Leick, Gwendolyn (2013). Tombs of the great leaders : a contemporary guide. London: Reaktion Books, Limited. p. 42. ISBN 9781780232003.
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