East Vancouver: Revision history

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Hi Joeyconnick, You removed the list of secondary schools I added to the Education section of the East Vancouver article as "Unsourced". What sources would be appropriate? The existing three items in that section are not specifically sourced, beyond being internally linked to their Wikipedia pages, which I did with the secondary schools.

This is my first Wikipedia contribution, so I'd just like to understand the guidelines. Thanks. Born-a-Weegie (talk) 03:29, 20 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's unclear whether such a list is needed, even: why do we think it is? Does it help readers understand East Vancouver as a topic?
One of the common mistakes at Wikipedia is including information simply because we have it, when in reality we shouldn't be so indiscriminate.
But preferably there should be a 3rd party reliable source that lists schools in East Vancouver. If the other 3 aren't sourced, feel free to remove them. —Joeyconnick (talk) 05:04, 21 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Apology/discussion

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Hi, just wanted to reply to one of your comments, and to apologize for some earlier edits, when I was newer a few months ago and still learning the ropes.

Instead, certain editors (by which I again mean CLC) seems to prefer to make repeated multi-thousand-word edits with little to no edit summaries across multiple sections, including putting back changes where they've been clearly reverted based on detailed rationales.

First, I wanted to say I'm sorry for doing this in my earliest edits, e.g. the strikethrough changes. At the time, I wasn't paying any attention to the edit histories, so I didn't even realize these changes had been partially reverted, because I didn't get a revert notification; I thought I just hadn't committed them. Since I saw your comment on my talk page about being frustrated with overly-long edits, I've been working to cut back on that and provide better edit summaries. I appreciate your patience, since I've only really been editing for a few months so far.

Yeah a draft of an existing article shouldn't exist. Instead, editors (by which I mean mainly CLC) should focus on making small changes (at most one section at a time if making extensive edits to a section) with clear edit summaries so other editors can track what's been added, deleted, and transformed and get a good overview of what's changed.

On this topic: The reason I created a draft was to try and follow this advice. You're right that I prefer to edit articles holistically, since I often find myself referencing different sections or moving between them. However, since you'd previously raised complaints about the difficulty of reviewing such edits, I decided to go through with it on a separate page outside mainspace, so I could make large edits there, then copy-and-paste small pieces into the main article to make them easier to review. My edit to the lead on October 6th was me starting this copy-paste process (you can see that I finished drafting that section prior to this). – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 19:22, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 180 Degree Open Angedre (talk) 10:48, 25 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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