User talk:Johnny Au/Archive7

key

Do you here clearly the key here ? 162.247.124.135 (talk) 02:26, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes. It is in F♯ major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:21, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MwhEFUFLW4

At 0:42 until 1:29, it's in F♯ major or E♭ minor ? 64.18.87.72 (talk) 20:04, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

The latter. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:00, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

But it's not clearly in a minor key ? 138.229.29.188 (talk) 02:20, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Much of it is in a minor key. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:03, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Toronto FC

Hi Johnny, I've been doing the GA review which you requested on Toronto FC. I appreciate the effort put into it by yourself and the other contributors. In my review, I found several points of improvement. If you disagree with any of them, you can say so. By this time next week I must make a final decision on whether to pass or fail the nomination - let's hope for the first one! '''tAD''' (talk) 20:40, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Toronto FC

The article Toronto FC you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Toronto FC for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Almightey Drill -- The Almightey Drill (talk) 20:41, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

key

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHZG9XpabZs

Between F major and F♯ major ? 64.18.87.72 (talk) 13:59, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:39, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lShXvahWbG0

G♯ major or A major ? 162.222.80.63 (talk) 01:59, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

The latter. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:12, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Quebec accent

• http://www.forvo.com/word/crème_fraîche/#fr

The Canadian pronunciation is [ˈkʁɛm fʁæʃ] or [ˈkʁɛm fʁaɪ̯ʃ] ? 162.222.80.63 (talk) 03:07, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

According to the speaker, the former. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:12, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

• http://www.forvo.com/word/crêpes/#fr

Eloi's pronunciation is [kʁæp], [kʁeɪp] or [kʁaɪp] ? 162.222.80.63 (talk) 03:21, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

The middle. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:28, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

[væʁ] or [vaɪʁ] ? 162.222.82.25 (talk) 03:17, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Somewhere between the two. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:38, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Toronto FC

The article Toronto FC you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Toronto FC for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Johnny Au -- Johnny Au (talk) 15:44, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

lung

You've heard [lʌŋ], [lɔŋ] or [ləŋ] ? 162.222.82.25 (talk) 15:10, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

The first one. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 15:23, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

[ɡʌt] or [ɡət] ? 162.222.82.25 (talk) 21:28, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

The former. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:22, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

In fact, did you know the difference of [ʌ] and [ɐ] ? 162.222.82.25 (talk) 23:06, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Only from listening several times, since the difference is quite subtle to me. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:24, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

You've heard [ˈkʌŋfu] or [ˈkɔŋfu] ? 199.59.77.97 (talk) 01:33, 22 November 2014 (UTC) Somewhere between the two perhaps. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:59, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

sleigh ride

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b9BKK27HuQ
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrNuEDrJ9mA

The first one is in F♯ major, and the second one is in G major ? 199.59.77.97 (talk) 03:12, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

That is correct. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:20, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Did you know that which one is the original key ? 138.229.24.1 (talk) 12:53, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

The original is in G major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:25, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

How do you know it ? 138.229.24.1 (talk) 17:49, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

http://www.karaoke-version.com/custombackingtrack/johnny-mathis/sleigh-ride.html and here: http://www.e-chords.com/chords/johnny-mathis/sleigh-ride Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 04:15, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b9BKK27HuQ

At 0:29 until 0:37, it's in B♭ major ? 138.229.24.1 (talk) 13:28, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 15:45, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

mini lovely kitten for you, happiness and joy are all around you, there is no further than your heart.

Helenflower (talk) 05:51, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:09, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

pronunciations

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAJc9c1zdWc

At 0:08, you hear [fæɪ̯t] or [faɪ̯t] ? 198.99.28.90 (talk) 03:00, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

The former. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:08, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

She doesn't pronounce exactly [feɪt] ? 198.99.28.90 (talk) 03:14, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

No. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:40, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Do you hear [kaɪs] when you listen carefully ? 198.99.28.90 (talk) 22:44, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:06, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

You hear [ɹoʊz] or [ɹøyz] ? 138.229.26.26 (talk) 20:59, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

The former. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:13, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

[hɛlˈloʊ] or [hɛlˈlø] ? 162.247.126.26 (talk) 13:16, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

More like [hel'lə] to me. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:27, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

• France:
• Quebec:

The French pronunciation rhymes with "planet", and the Québécois pronunciation rhymes with what ? 138.229.29.239 (talk) 16:04, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

"Ornate". Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:43, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

You pronounce the word maître as [mɛtʁ], [mɛːtʁ] or [meɪtʁ] ? 138.229.25.158 (talk) 16:23, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

The first one. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:23, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

You hear [pɛʃ], [pæʃ], [peɪʃ] or [paɪʃ] ? 138.229.25.158 (talk) 17:42, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Somewhere in between [pɛʃ] and [pæʃ]. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:25, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

key

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9A-l78Bq4s
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmJT_d5UywU

The first song is in G major, and the second song is in G♭ major ? 138.229.25.158 (talk) 01:25, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Both are in G major to me. I also listen to the dominant key (both being D major) and the subdominant key (both being C major) as well. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:09, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

The second is between F♯ major and G major? 138.229.25.158 (talk) 22:20, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Closer to G major though. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:24, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_VShAURv74
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KaVyfz9gWs

The first is in E♭ minor, and the second is in E minor ? 138.229.25.158 (talk) 16:36, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

They both sound very close to each other, almost very much the same key even. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:31, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Is there a slight difference ? 138.229.25.158 (talk) 17:52, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Very slight; the latter is very slightly higher than the former. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:52, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a absolute pitch ? 138.229.25.158 (talk) 22:30, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

In most cases, yes. Sometimes, I do need a reference pitch, especially for those that are off-pitch. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:03, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Seasonal Greets!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015 !!!

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VisualEditor newsletter—December 2014

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The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on table editing and performance. Their weekly status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.

VisualEditor was deployed to several hundred remaining wikis as an opt-in beta feature at the end of November, except for most Wiktionaries (which depend heavily upon templates) and all Wikisources (which await integration with ProofreadPage).

Recent improvements

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You can now use find and replace in VisualEditor, reachable through the tool menu or by pressing ⌃ Ctrl+F or ⌘ Cmd+F.

You can now create and edit simple <blockquote> paragraphs for quoting and indenting content. This changes a "Paragraph" into a "Block quote".

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wishes

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Mr. Au ! Joyeuses "fight" ! 162.247.121.94 (talk) 17:12, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:36, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

My pleasure ! 162.247.121.94 (talk) 17:59, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Joy

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mfa5R5HpOw

This song is between F major and F♯ major? 138.229.24.236 (talk) 02:35, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Somewhere there. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 04:03, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Do you hear clearly the key at 0:20? 138.229.24.236 (talk) 12:57, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

No. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:24, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Do you hear the key after 0:38 ? 138.229.29.192 (talk) 19:21, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

No. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:22, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Do you notice the key if you listen to all the song? 162.247.120.183 (talk) 05:54, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Only if I listen to the whole song can I tell and it is not on a single key. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:32, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

At 2:02 until 2:10, it's in F♯ major? 162.222.82.194 (talk) 21:20, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Sounds halfway between F and F♯ major to me. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:26, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

keys' association

Hello Johnny, you told me that F♯ major is associated with the green, is it the synesthesia? 138.229.17.116 (talk) 02:00, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

No. That was DC Comics (more specifically Green Lantern) that associated F♯ with the colour green. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:34, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

key

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_oTJc7N5TI

This song is in B♭ major? 198.99.30.186 (talk) 17:12, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:45, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIbz5RKkH8

At 3:36 until 3:40, the final tonic chord is in F♯ major or D♯ minor ? 198.99.30.186 (talk) 20:49, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

The former. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 21:45, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News 2015—#1

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's appearance, the coming Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.

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Due to some breaking changes in MobileFrontend and VisualEditor, VisualEditor was not working correctly on the mobile site for a couple of days in early January. The teams apologize for the problem.

Recent improvements

The new design for VisualEditor aligns with MediaWiki's Front-End Standards as led by the Design team. Several new versions of the OOjs UI library have also been released, and these also affect the appearance of VisualEditor and other MediaWiki software extensions. Most changes were minor, like changing the text size and the amount of white space in some windows. Buttons are consistently color-coded to indicate whether the action:

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Target Canada edit

I think this recent edit is wrong and that Target Canada is not closing down within 6 weeks of the January 15, 2015 announcement. I think the real date is May 15, 2015 from this source If you agree, please revert that edit on Target Canada's wiki article or correct it from this Globe and Mail source as I am not familiar with Target Canada's shutdown process. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 21:28, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

 Done Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:50, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks for your help here. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

language

Hi Johnny, did you know how to say hello in Cantonese? It's "nay ho". 138.229.30.188 (talk) 01:13, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

It is more like "nei5 hou2" (using Jyutping). Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:21, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Have you already known to say hello in Cantonese before? À la 雞 (talk) 14:57, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

No. But I heard how others say it. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:11, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Sometimes, your parents speak in Cantonese? À la 雞 (talk) 23:24, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:58, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

They hasn't taught you Cantonese? À la 雞 (talk) 02:31, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

I just prefer to speak English. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:18, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Do you understand some words in Cantonese? 138.229.30.188 (talk) 03:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Some, but mostly conversational. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:22, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Do you understand the word yes in Cantonese? It's pronounced [hɐi]. 162.247.127.250 (talk) 02:06, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Interestingly enough, Nintendo character Kirby says that in that context, but does not speak any human language. Note his taunt. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:23, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Valentine Greets!!!

Valentine Greets!!!

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University of Toronto campus merger

I created a post on the University of Toronto's talk page about a possible merger between all the campuses. Each campus of Toronto has equal-standing, and therefore, to avoid confusion, there should exist only one large Wikipedia devoted to the entirety of the University. However, I would suggest keeping Wikipedia pages for each individual campus, including the addition of the historic St. George campus. Would you agree? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidhar (talk • contribs) 21:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Could you help with the potential merger of all three campuses of the University of Toronto? Davidhar (talk) 21:00, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

 Not done I am not an admin. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 22:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

You could comment about any potential merge. Your insight is always appreciated. Secondarywaltz (talk) 03:25, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

That I will. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:31, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Commented. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:55, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

major or minor

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9V31y_cE1o

At 0:14 until 0:46, I'm not sure that it's in F♯ major or in D♯ minor, it's hard to know? 162.247.122.114 (talk) 00:37, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Some parts are in F♯ major and some are in D♯ minor. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:16, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Chinese New Year

新年快樂！198.99.28.4 (talk) 02:07, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:12, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

My pleasure. Fête (talk) 21:57, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

tone

He is pronouncing the word vert in the note of A₂? 199.59.78.196 (talk) 01:57, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

ذكر

You heard [ˈdakaɾɑ] or [ˈvakaɾɑ]? 162.247.120.161 (talk) 03:27, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

The latter. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:39, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

key

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48z8XaS-JJ0

At 4:06, the final tonic chord, it's in a major key or a minor key? 198.99.30.186 (talk) 21:10, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Cannot be determined. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:14, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUI9tbBnOXE

At 1:06 until 1:55, it's in A major or F♯ minor? 138.229.21.81 (talk) 01:50, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

The former, though it sometimes modulates to the latter. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:22, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt8VK4lidRI

At 0:18 until 1:10, it's in a major key or a minor key? 138.229.21.81 (talk) 01:19, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Both; they modulate between each other. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:16, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

SkyRider

As much as we know that SkyRider is in Italy, there are still no reliable sources that prove it. :) --Dom497 (talk) 21:00, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Added hidden comment. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 21:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Scarborough RT

You should not have moved the article to a different name from the one in the current discussion that is taking place. You commented on it and agreed what the name should be. You could leave a whole disjointed trail of redirects. Please revert! Secondarywaltz (talk) 03:32, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

I must apologize. I have reverted the page move.

TTC

Talk:Toronto rapid transit#Moving. Opinions? Epson291 (talk) 04:23, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

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VisualEditor News #2—2015

Did you know?

With Citoid in VisualEditor, you click the 'book with bookmark' icon and paste in the URL for a reliable source:

Citoid looks up the source for you and returns the citation results. Click the green "Insert" button to accept its results and add them to the article:

After inserting the citation, you can change it. Select the reference, and click the "Edit" button in the context menu to make changes.

The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.

The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 11:00 (noon) PDT (18:00 UTC). You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal.

Recent improvements

VisualEditor is now substantially faster. In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%.

The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website.

Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates. If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.

The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users. After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March. This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh.

Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese. These languages use input method editors ("IMEs”). Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users.

The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model. Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries. This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images.

You can now drag and drop categories to re-arrange their order of appearance on the page.

The pop-up window that appears when you click on a reference, image, link, or other element, is called the "context menu". It now displays additional useful information, such as the destination of the link or the image's filename. The team has also added an explicit "Edit" button in the context menu, which helps new editors open the tool to change the item.

Invisible templates are marked by a puzzle piece icon so they can be interacted with. Users also will be able to see and edit HTML anchors now in section headings.

Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead (T90734).

Looking ahead

The special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at mediawiki.org.

The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors. The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon.

Let's work together

• Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
• Can you translate from English into any other language? Please check this list to see whether more interface translations are needed for your language. Contact us to get an account if you want to help!
• The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
• File requests for language-appropriate "Bold" and "Italic" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.

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-Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk), 17:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

major key/minor key

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDwnUJNeoro

Hello Johnny, at 0:42 until 1:27, do you think it's considered to F♯ major? 138.229.16.126 (talk) 01:42, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

It is primarily in a minor key. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

I think it's neither a major key nor a minor key, it's hard to tell. 138.229.16.126 (talk) 15:56, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps that is the case. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:29, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NRYIbYKDc0
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0xolir80U4

Do you think that the first video is in G major, but the second video is in F♯ major? 138.229.16.126 (talk) 15:58, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

The former is definitely G major, while the latter is very likely F♯ major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:10, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB6QOztgf6A

At 3:28 until 3:30, it's in a major key? 138.229.16.126 (talk) 13:08, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Probably. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:17, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

It's in G major? 138.229.16.126 (talk) 00:27, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Probably. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:08, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jfd62PvX4w

At 0:01 until 0:11, I consider it to C♯ minor, at 1:10 until 1:33, I consider it to F♯ major, at 2:08 until 2:12, I consider to A minor, so, is there a key of a part that you can determine? 138.229.16.126 (talk) 13:39, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

The singing part that begins on 0:12 is also C♯ minor. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 14:04, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

I think the singing part that begins on 0:12 is modulates to F♯ major. 138.229.16.126 (talk) 17:54, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. The modulations can be subtle. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:48, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

At 1:10 until 1:33, F♯ major is clearer for you? 138.229.16.126 (talk) 01:38, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Not clear to me, but enough to tell that it is in F♯ major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:08, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

It actually sounds a bit like F♯? 138.229.16.126 (talk) 02:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 14:54, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIPOCm2CooQ

This song is in C minor? 198.99.29.213 (talk) 01:07, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

More like C♯ minor to me. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:50, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

It is not exactly in C♯ minor? 198.99.29.213 (talk) 11:27, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Not exactly, but closer to C♯ minor. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 15:02, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Target Canada

Is this store here bankrupt or defunct or does it matter?

PS: This story from Maple Ridge, BC would be interesting if it is true. I thought the auction process could extend until the end of June as Target wants the maximum amount of dollars for its leases but who knows. But since Maple Ridge is in Metro Vancouver, someone will likely fill this Target location.

• This April 2015 NYT article says the process could be until the end of June until landlords find out if anyone is even replacing a Target store. Kind Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 18:57, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

@Leoboudv: it would be better to ask that in Target Canada's talk page. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

• OK. I'll post a message there. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 04:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:17, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

2015 Pan Ams WikiProject

Hi,

We are just 3 months away shy of the 2015 Pan American Games. There are still a thousand of pages that need to be created for the event. I can't do this alone so I'm soliciting your help for this task. Please feel free to send me any messages regarding it.

Best regards,

The Green Giant 23 TheGreenGiant23 (talk) 21:23, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

key

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qOGZ1OQTdg

Hi Johnny, at 3:24 until 3:38, it's in G♯ major? 162.247.123.201 (talk) 18:58, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Sounds more like A major to me. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:26, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

But it's not exactly in A major? Fête Phung (talk) 02:03, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Not completely. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:31, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

It's between G♯ major and A major? Fête Phung (talk) 11:49, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Somewhere there, though slightly closer to A major to me. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 15:56, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #3—2015

Did you know?

When you click on a link to an article, you now see more information:

The link tool has been re-designed:

There are separate tabs for linking to internal and external pages.

The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has created new interfaces for the link and citation tools, as well as fixing many bugs and changing some elements of the design. Some of these bugs affected users of VisualEditor on mobile devices. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.

A test of VisualEditor's effect on new editors at the English Wikipedia has just completed the first phase. During this test, half of newly registered editors had VisualEditor automatically enabled, and half did not. The main goal of the study is to learn which group was more likely to save an edit and to make productive, unreverted edits. Initial results will be posted at Meta later this month.

Recent improvements

Auto-fill features for citations are available at a few Wikipedias through the citoid service. Citoid takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. If Citoid is enabled on your wiki, then the design of the citation workflow changed during May. All citations are now created inside a single tool. Inside that tool, choose the tab you want (<citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-auto>, <citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-manual>, or ⧼citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-reuse⧽). The cite button is now labeled with the word "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" rather than a book icon, and the autofill citation dialog now has a more meaningful label, "⧼Citoid-citeFromIDDialog-lookup-button⧽", for the submit button.

The link tool has been redesigned based on feedback from Wikipedia editors and user testing. It now has two separate sections: one for links to articles and one for external links. When you select a link, its pop-up context menu shows the name of the linked page, a thumbnail image from the linked page, Wikidata's description, and/or appropriate icons for disambiguation pages, redirect pages and empty pages. Search results have been reduced to the first five pages. Several bugs were fixed, including a dark highlight that appeared over the first match in the link inspector (T98085).  

The special character inserter in VisualEditor now uses the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki can also create a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Please read the instructions for customizing the list at mediawiki.org. Also, there is now a tooltip to describing each character in the special character inserter (T70425).

Several improvements have been made to templates. When you search for a template to insert, the list of results now contains descriptions of the templates. The parameter list inside the template dialog now remains open after inserting a parameter from the list, so that users don’t need to click on "⧼visualeditor-dialog-transclusion-add-param⧽" each time they want to add another parameter (T95696). The team added a new property for TemplateData, "Example", for template parameters. This optional, translatable property will show up when there is text describing how to use that parameter (T53049).

The design of the main toolbar and several other elements have changed slightly, to be consistent with the MediaWiki theme. In the Vector skin, individual items in the menu are separated visually by pale gray bars. Buttons and menus on the toolbar can now contain both an icon and a text label, rather than just one or the other. This new design feature is being used for the cite button on wikis where the Citoid service is enabled.

The team has released a long-desired improvement to the handling of non-existent images. If a non-existent image is linked in an article, then it is now visible in VisualEditor and can be selected, edited, replaced, or removed.

Let's work together

• Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
• The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 12:00 (noon) PDT (19:00 UTC). Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal. You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug.
• If your Wikivoyage, Wikibooks, Wikiversity, or other community wants to have VisualEditor made available by default to contributors, then please contact James Forrester.
• If you would like to request the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.

Subscribe, unsubscribe or change the page where this newsletter is delivered at Meta. If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:31, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

key

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH7LGk9oGlw

Hi Johnny, this song is not exactly in F major? Fête Phung (talk) 01:30, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Not exactly. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:14, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

muffin

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYYqS5xpZaw

Hi Johnny, at 1:53, she pronounces the word muffin as [mʌfən] or [mʌfyn]? Fête Phung (talk) 14:50, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Somewhat halfway between the two. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:34, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

It's [mʌføn]? Fête Phung (talk) 15:10, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Sounds much like that. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Templating regulars

For the record, I templated you, because I wouldn't have expected a veteran editor to have made this edit without at least citing a source, in light of WP:V and WP:CITE. No disrespect intended. --GoneIn60 (talk) 03:18, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Ah. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:51, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

key

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WhPyJ16G_Y

Hi Johnny Au, at 5:38 to 5:50, it's in G major? Fête Phung (talk) 01:43, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Hard to tell. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:43, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

At 6:15 to 6:22, it's in G♯ major? Fête Phung (talk) 02:18, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Close but not exactly. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 14:46, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEKyVx9Diao

This song is not exactly in F major? Fête Phung (talk) 01:31, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Not exactly. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:16, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

It's between F major and F♯ major? Fête Phung (talk) 02:20, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

It sounds very much there. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:21, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NRYIbYKDc0
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhD2S0RUv4

Have you heard a nuance between these two keys? Fête Phung (talk) 01:52, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Both are in G major, though the latter is very slightly off-key. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:26, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

September 2015

Hello! I noticed that with this edit, you changed another user's name in their signature, by replacing the word "****" with asterisks. This caused the links to their user and talk pages to break. Furthermore, your edit summary did not indicate the fact that you did this. In the future, please do not edit other users' signatures unless they are blatantly disruptive. If you think User:**** in a Bucket's username is offensive, you should report them to WP:UAA. Thank you. Belchior90 (talk) 19:04, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't waste your time, it's the name of a song and has been discussed or trolled depending on the person complaining but in the end it was acceptable, in the meantime enjoy the day. **** in a Bucket (talk) 22:54, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I must apologize. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:56, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Like a virgin

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHW5RVvg2v4

Hello Johnny, this song is really in E♭ minor, but it's written F major in the page Like a Virgin (song). Fête Phung (talk) 01:23, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

It is done to prevent YouTube from terminating the account of the uploader, as Google has an algorithm that detects copyright violations. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 04:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

The real version is also in E♭ minor. Fête Phung (talk) 10:59, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Ah. Perhaps two versions were made. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:41, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

On this video, you heard an F♯ major or E♭ minor? Fête Phung (talk) 17:26, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Hard to tell. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

It sounds more like E♭ minor? Fête Phung (talk) 14:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Very slightly. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:02, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

key

• File:王菲 野三坡.ogg

Hi Johnny, do you hear the key here? Fête Phung (talk) 01:20, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

It is close to F♯ major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:12, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Toronto Star Interview

Hey, I'm a reporter with the Toronto Star. I'm interested in writing about the Jays Wikipedia page and the extra attention it must be receiving from editors in the last few weeks/months. Not sure if this is the best way to contact you, but if you would be OK with chatting, can you drop me a line? Email at osachgau@thestar.ca or phone at 416-869-4398 works.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Staroliversachgau (talk • contribs)

@Staroliversachgau: I have e-mailed you. I am interested in being interviewed at One Yonge Street. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 01:59, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor update

This note is only delivered to English Wikipedia subscribers of the visual editor's newsletter.

The location of the visual editor's preference has been changed from the "Beta" tab to the "Editing" section of your preferences on this wiki. The setting now says Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is in beta. This aligns en.wiki with almost all the other WMF wikis; it doesn’t mean the visual editor is complete, or that it is no longer “in beta phase” though.

This action has not changed anything else for editors: it still honours editors’ previous choices about having it on or off; logged-out users continue to only have access to wikitext; the “Edit” tab is still after the “Edit source” one. You can learn more at the visual editor’s talk page.

We don’t expect this to cause any glitches, but in case your account no longer has the settings that you want, please accept our apologies and correct it in the Editing tab of Special:Preferences. Thank you for your attention, Elitre (WMF) -16:32, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Toronto Star article

That's a great article in the Star. You are a hero, and it's good to see you are getting some well deserved recognition. - SimonP (talk) 16:08, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

No problem. I am becoming a minor celebrity at my workplace as well. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 20:55, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations on your new-found fame, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Just read the article featuring you and Blue Jays/Toronto-related articles, congrats and keep up the good work! ///EuroCarGT 20:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you all for your support. Go Jays go! Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:47, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

2015 Toronto Blue Jays season

Hey Johnny, I appreciate your edits to the page, but could you try to spell out more than one numeral per edit? I understand why you're doing it, but doing them one at a time just inflates the page history. By the way, I saw your article in the Star - very cool. Trut-h-urts man (T • C) 02:50, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for congratulating me. I should try to make more changes per edit then, rather than to inflate my edit count, despite them being constructive yet incremental. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:56, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

I've been known to have bouts with WP:EDITCOUNTITIS myself on occasion. No worries - go Jays go! Trut-h-urts man (T • C) 03:02, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Au

Hi Johnny, is there some Anglophone pronounce your last name as [ɒ]? Fête Phung (talk) 22:36, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

I believe so. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:09, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Canadian English

Hi Johnny, I have been contributing to Wikipedia for over five years but am still having some difficulty with HTML coding. And I know some experts who would be a great benefit to Wikipedia, such as my neighbor, a professor of Natural History and Environmental Biology, but he finds the HTML aspect confusing, so he has given up trying to contribute.

Also, you sent me a note about using British spelling such as favour and US spelling (favor) in Canadian items on Wikipedia. Most newspapers use US spelling here, while some publications use British spelling. So there is no clear rule on which to use. (In a recent edit to the page Flexity Outlook (Toronto streetcar), you changed one or more words or styles from one national variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Wikipedia articles.) Does your comment mean that either spelling is fully acceptable in Canada? Peter K Burian 13:45, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

@Peter K Burian: Good question. See Template:canspell. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 15:07, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Request for a statement

I have been accused of considering "fair edits" to be "vandalism", as I have reincluded content that was removed by another user. Administrator EdJohnson says, "Would like to hear from others who can look at the diffs in the above complaint and give their opinion." As you seem to be an expert on vandalism and, as far as I can see, were not involved in content disputes on Elvis-related articles, you may be the right person to give a statement on Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Onefortyone from a neutral point of view. Thanks. Onefortyone (talk) 01:31, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

I have no opinion on this matter. Please speak with someone else. Sorry about that. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:22, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #4—2015

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Did you know?

You can add quotations marks before and after a title or phrase with a single click.

Select the relevant text. Find the correct quotations marks in the special character inserter tool (marked as Ω in the toolbar).

Click the button. VisualEditor will add the quotation marks on either side of the text you selected.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team have been working on mobile phone support. They have fixed many bugs and improved language support. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving language support and functionality on mobile devices.

Wikimania

The team attended Wikimania 2015 in Mexico City. There they participated in the Hackathon and met with individuals and groups of users. They also made several presentations about VisualEditor and the future of editing.

Following Wikimania, we announced winners for the VisualEditor 2015 Translathon. Our thanks and congratulations to users Halan-tul, Renessaince, जनक राज भट्ट (Janak Bhatta), Vahe Gharakhanyan, Warrakkk, and Eduardogobi.

For interface messages (translated at translatewiki.net), we saw the initiative affecting 42 languages. The average progress in translations across all languages was 56.5% before the translathon, and 78.2% after (+21.7%). In particular, Sakha improved from 12.2% to 94.2%; Brazilian Portuguese went from 50.6% to 100%; Taraškievica went from 44.9% to 85.3%; Doteli went from 1.3% to 41.2%. Also, while 1.7% of the messages were outdated across all languages before the translathon, the percentage dropped to 0.8% afterwards (-0.9%).

For documentation messages (on mediawiki.org), we saw the initiative affecting 24 languages. The average progress in translations across all languages was 26.6% before translathon, and 46.9% after (+20.3%).  There were particularly notable achievements for three languages. Armenian improved from 1% to 99%; Swedish, from 21% to 99%, and Brazilian Portuguese, from 34% to 83%. Outdated translations across all languages were reduced from 8.4% before translathon to 4.8% afterwards (-3.6%).

We published some graphs showing the effect of the event on the Translathon page. Thank you to the translators for participating and the translatewiki.net staff for facilitating this initiative.

Recent improvements

Auto-fill features for citations can be enabled on each Wikipedia. The tool uses the citoid service to convert a URL or DOI into a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. You can see an animated GIF of the quick, simple process at mediawiki.org. So far, about a dozen Wikipedias have enabled the auto-citation tool. To enable it for your wiki, follow the instructions at mediawiki.org.

Your wiki can customize the first section of the special character inserter in VisualEditor. Please follow the instructions at mediawiki.org to put the characters you want at the top.

In other changes, if you need to fill in a CAPTCHA and get it wrong, then you can click to get a new one to complete. VisualEditor can now display and edit Vega-based graphs. If you use the Monobook skin, VisualEditor's appearance is now more consistent with other software.

Future changes

The team will be changing the appearance of selected links inside VisualEditor. The purpose is to make it easy to see whether your cursor is inside or outside the link. When you select a link, the link label (the words shown on the page) will be enclosed in a faint box. If you place your cursor inside the box, then your changes to the link label will be part of the link. If you place your cursor outside the box, then it will not. This will make it easy to know when new characters will be added to the link and when they will not.

On the English Wikipedia, 10% of newly created accounts are now offered both the visual and the wikitext editors. A recent controlled trial showed no significant difference in survival or productivity for new users in the short term. New users with access to VisualEditor were very slightly less likely to produce results that needed reverting. You can learn more about this by watching a video of the July 2015 Wikimedia Research Showcase. The proportion of new accounts with access to both editing environments will be gradually increased over time. Eventually all new users have the choice between the two editing environments.

Let's work together

• Share your ideas and ask questions at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback.
• Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing#What to test if you can help.
• If your wiki would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace, you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.
• Please file requests for language-appropriate "Bold" and "Italic" icons for the styling menu in Phabricator.
• The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
• The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, usually on Tuesdays at 12:00 (noon) PDT (19:00 UTC). Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q1 blocker, though. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the main VisualEditor project with the bug.

If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact Elitre directly, so that she can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 00:01, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #5—2015

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Did you know?

You can use the visual editor on smartphones and tablets.

Click the pencil icon to open the editor for a page. Inside that, use the gear menu in the upper right corner to "Switch to visual editing".

The editing button will remember which editing environment you used last time, and give you the same one next time. The desktop site will be switching to a system similar to this one in the coming months.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs, added new features, and made some small design changes. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages like Japanese and Arabic, making it easier to edit on mobile devices, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.

Recent improvements

Educational features: The first time you use the visual editor, it now draws your attention to the Link and ⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽ tools. When you click on the tools, it explains why you should use them. (T108620) Alongside this, the welcome message for new users has been simplified to make editing more welcoming. (T112354) More in-software educational features are planned.

Links:  It is now easier to understand when you are adding text to a link and when you are typing plain text next to it. (T74108, T91285) The editor now fully supports ISBN, PMID or RFC numbers. (T109498, T110347, T63558)  These "magic links" use a custom link editing tool.

Uploads:  Registered editors can now upload images and other media to Commons while editing. Click the new tab in the "Insert Images and media" tool. You will be guided through the process without having to leave your edit. At the end, the image will be inserted. This tool is limited to one file at a time, owned by the user, and licensed under Commons's standard license. For more complex situations, the tool links to more advanced upload tools. You can also drag the image into the editor. This will be available in the wikitext editor later.

Mobile:  Previously, the visual editor was available on the mobile Wikipedia site only on tablets. Now, editors can use the visual editor on any size of device. (T85630)  Edit conflicts were previously broken on the mobile website. Edit conflicts can now be resolved in both wikitext and visual editors. (T111894) Sometimes templates and similar items could not be deleted on the mobile website. Selecting them caused the on-screen keyboard to hide with some browsers. Now there is a new "Delete" button, so that these things can be removed if the keyboard hides. (T62110) You can also edit table cells in mobile now.

Rich editing tools:  You can now add and edit sheet music in the visual editor. (T112925)  There are separate tabs for advanced options, such as MIDI and Ogg audio files. (T114227 and T113354)  When editing formulæ and other blocks, errors are shown as you edit. It is also possible to edit some types of graphs; adding new ones, and support for new types, will be coming.

On the English Wikipedia, the visual editor is now automatically available to anyone who creates an account. The preference switch was moved to the normal location, under Special:Preferences.

Future changes

You will soon be able to switch from the wikitext to the visual editor after you start editing. (T49779) Previously, you could only switch from the visual editor to the wikitext editor. Bi-directional switching will make possible a single edit tab. (T102398) This project will combine the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab, similar to the system already used on the mobile website. The "Edit" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time.

Let's work together

• Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback. This feedback page uses Flow for discussions.
• Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing#What to test if you can help, and report it on Phabricator (Korean - Japanese) or on Wikipedia (Korean - Japanese).
• Local admins can set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki. If you need help, then please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.
• The weekly task triage meetings are open to volunteers. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration, though. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the main VisualEditor project with the bug.

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Streetcar loops

Which parts of Toronto streetcar system loops are outdated? I could work on improving the article, if I knew what the problems were. Secondarywaltz (talk) 03:52, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

@Secondarywaltz: I have updated the part about the Queens Quay loo. There may be a few others that may be outdated. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:50, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

But the banner you added after that says "This article is outdated". You sort of fixed the one at Spadina and Queens Quay. What are the other problems? Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:59, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Some of the rest, especially the "Former loops" section, with some of the loops being stated as "Currently under renewal for new streetcar/bus loop in 2014." Not just that, but the (old) Exhibition Loop is replaced by the Direct Energy Centre (which has since been renamed Enercare Centre). Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 19:53, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

New

It's pronounced [njuː] in British English, but [nuː] in American English and in Canadian English, I prefer to speak with an Canadian accent, because I live in Canada. Fête Phung (talk) 04:10, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Canadians used to pronounce "new" as [njuː] and I pronounce it as that way. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 14:52, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

I think some Canadian people pronounce it [nuː], it's written on Canadian English#Features shared with General American. Fête Phung (talk) 17:06, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Some Canadians (mostly younger) pronounce it as [nuː], while some (mostly older) pronounce it as [njuː]. There are some such as myself who pronounce it as the latter. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 20:11, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

key

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOaptv8JoE

Hi Johnny, this song's key is hard to know, it's in F major or F minor? Fête Phung (talk) 17:22, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Hard to tell. One hint: if the song primarily has a happy-sounding harmony, chances are that it is major, while if it primarily has a sad-sounding harmony, chances are that it is minor. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 04:55, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

At 0:21 until 0:34, it's in F minor? Fête Phung (talk) 03:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Probably. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 17:45, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

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key

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVsnn20X6LA

F♯ major or G major? Fête Phung (talk) 03:14, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Somewhere halfway between the two, though slightly closer to the former. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

• 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqja9RmtUsc
• 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC5Oj6_lHqA

Hi Johnny, the first version is in F major, and the second version is in F♯ major? Fête Phung (talk) 14:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

That is correct. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 21:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3EmH5-WgG8

It's almost in F major? Fête Phung (talk) 03:15, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

It is approximately halfway between F and F♯ major, but slightly closer to F. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:45, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdVOjZc_YUc

Hi Johnny, this song starts at 0:16, it's in F♯ major? Fête Phung (talk) 03:20, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes it does. Exactly in F♯ major even! Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:30, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXQ830w3uwA

Hi Johnny, as far as I know, this is not a Christmas song, but the accompaniment sounds like a Christmas song? Fête Phung (talk) 02:59, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Generally, Christmas-like songs use either a celesta or a glockenspiel, but this song uses a glockenspiel. Not all compositions that use a celesta or a glockenspiel makes a composition Christmas-like. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:04, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

So, does this song make you think Christmas? Fête Phung (talk) 02:37, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Not necessarily. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:38, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

wishes

Hi Johnny, I wish you a happy holiday season ! Fête Phung (talk) 14:09, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

You too. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 02:48, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot ! Fête Phung (talk) 02:56, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #6—2015

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Did you know?

A new, simpler system for editing will offer a single Edit button. Once the page has opened, you can switch back and forth between visual and wikitext editing.

If you prefer having separate edit buttons, then you can set that option in your preferences, either in a pop-up dialog the next time you open the visual editor, or by going to Special:Preferences and choosing the setting that you want:

The current plan is for the default setting to have the Edit button open the editing environment you used most recently.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs and expanded the mathematics formula tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages such as Japanese and Arabic, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.

Recent improvements

You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing.

The LaTeX mathematics formula editor has been significantly expanded. (T118616) You can see the formula as you change the LaTeX code. You can click buttons to insert the correct LaTeX code for many symbols.

Future changes

The single edit tab project will combine the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab, like the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "Edit" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as a cookie for logged-out users and as an account preference for logged-in editors. Logged-in editors will be able to set a default editor in the Editing tab of Special:Preferences in the drop-down menu about "Editing mode:".

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the following Wikipedias in early 2016: Amharic, Buginese, Min Dong, Cree, Manx, Hakka, Armenian, Georgian, Pontic, Serbo-Croatian, Tigrinya, Mingrelian, Zhuang, and Min Nan. (T116523) Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. The developers would like to know how well it works. Please tell them what kind of computer, web browser, and keyboard you are using.

In 2016, the feedback pages for the visual editor on many Wikipedias will be redirected to mediawiki.org. (T92661)

Testing opportunities

• Please try the new system for the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You can edit while logged out to see how it works for logged-out editors, or you can create a separate account to be able to set your account's preferences. Please share your thoughts about the single edit tab system at the feedback topic on mediawiki.org or sign up for formal user research (type "single edit tab" in the question about other areas you're interested in). The new system has not been finalized, and your feedback can affect the outcome. The team particularly wants your thoughts about the options in Special:Preferences. The current choices in Special:Preferences are:
  • Remember my last editor,
  • Always give me the visual editor if possible,
  • Always give me the source editor, and
  • Show me both editor tabs.  (This is the current state for people using the visual editor. None of these options will be visible if you have disabled the visual editor in your preferences at that wiki.)
• Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing#What to test if you can help, and report it on Phabricator (Korean - Japanese) or on Wikipedia (Korean - Japanese).

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REPLYING

• 33aircharter speaking, I don't edits without physical proof when it comes to Grantley Adams International Airport, you said I did an edit on Toronto Pearson International Airport but the Sunwing Airline flight between the two cities made four round trips so for but bi-weekly on Sundays, I did not find a source but its an ongoing charter flight. So why would you want to get me block for such edit? So give me a proper explanation for the claim false edit, you erased it and I did not put it back so all of that was not call for. I was also accused of the Air Berlin edit from Grantley Adams International Airport and it was proven that I was correct.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 33aircharter (talk • contribs)

key

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwcsi1mv-x4

Hi Johnny, this song is not exactly in G major? Fête Phung (talk) 03:16, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

It is very close to G major though. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 03:19, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwcsi1mv-x4
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua9THUc7dQA

Are these two songs in the same key? Fête Phung (talk) 03:27, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

No. The latter is in F♯ major. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 18:49, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ4fKSmOf3U

Hi Johnny, at 3:54, it's in E major? Fête Phung (talk) 03:42, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

It is supposed to be. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 14:33, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Links to stadium websites

Dear Johnny Au, please check my older messages, I was given permission to add stadium pictures links by admins. Farmnation (talk) 09:21, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Because of copyright issues and missies pictures. Farmnation (talk) 09:22, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #1—2016

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Did you know?

Among experienced editors, the visual editor's table editing is one of the most popular features.

If you select the top of a column or the end of a row, you can quickly insert and remove columns and rows.

Now, you can also rearrange columns and rows. Click "Move before" or "Move after" to swap the column or row with its neighbor.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Indic, and Han scripts, and improving the single edit tab interface.

Recent changes

You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. This function is available to nearly all editors at most wikis except the Wiktionaries and Wikisources.

Many local feedback pages for the visual editor have been redirected to mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.

You can now re-arrange columns and rows in tables, as well as copying a row, column or any other selection of cells and pasting it in a new location.

The formula editor has two options: you can choose "Quick edit" to see and change only the LaTeX code, or "Edit" to use the full tool. The full tool offers immediate preview and an extensive list of symbols.

Future changes

The single edit tab project will combine the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab. This is similar to the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "Edit" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as an account preference for logged-in editors, and as a cookie for logged-out users. Logged-in editors will have these options in the Editing tab of Special:Preferences:

• Remember my last editor,
• Always give me the visual editor if possible,
• Always give me the source editor, and
• Show me both editor tabs.  (This is the state for people using the visual editor now.)

The visual editor uses the same search engine as Special:Search to find links and files. This search will get better at detecting typos and spelling mistakes soon. These improvements to search will appear in the visual editor as well.

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at most "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers would like to know how well the visual editor works in your language. They particularly want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect the following languages: Japanese, Korean, Urdu, Persian, Arabic, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Hindi, Bengali, Assamese, Thai, Aramaic and others.

Let's work together

• Please try out the newest version of the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You may need to restore the default preferences (at the bottom of test2wiki:Special:Preferences) to see the initial prompt for options. Were you able to find a preference setting that will work for your own editing? Did you see the large preferences dialog box when you started editing an article there?
• Can you read and type in Korean, Arabic, Japanese, Indic, or Han scripts? Language engineer David Chan needs help from people who often type in these languages. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing#What to test if you can help. Report your results on wiki (Korean – Japanese – all languages).
• Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Join the Tech Talk about "Automated citations in Wikipedia: Citoid and the technology behind it" with Sebastian Karcher on 29 February 2016.

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– Whatamidoing (WMF) 17:47, 25 February 2016 (UTC)