Jonnyk1982

Welcome to wikipedia. So what do you guys think about Sura 9, for example 9:29? Arrow740 01:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

"true Quranic Islam"

Jonnyk1982, regarding this edit:[1] Wikipedia is not the right place to determine what is or is not "true Quranic Islam," or to excommunicate your fellow editors. Sectarian strife makes Wikipedia a depressing place, degrading the editting experience and the encyclopedia alike. Please try to avoid this mode of dialog, and focus instead on how we might most neutrally approach the subjects we aim to describe for our readers. Thank you.Proabivouac 23:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

JK- The last thing we want is to be called a sect. We even refrain from calling ourselves Muslims but call ourslves submitters or use the term in the language we speak. Our motto is "YOU help us to better understand the Word of GOD" which im sure youll agree is unlike most other religious beleifs. The Islam article must include a section to those who follow the Quran Alone because we are part of this system which means submission to GOD Alone in context of the Quran. We cannot tolerate Mullahs defaming the Qurn yb their biased and mostly Biblical interpreations of the Quran. JonnyK

What is your interpretation of surah 9? I'm genuinely curious about this. Arrow740 02:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Easy please read the sura from the beginning and the following verse to understand that it is ENTIRELY IN SELF DEFENSE: [9:13] Would you not fight people who violated their treaties, tried to banish the messenger, AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO STARTED THE WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE?... Also note this verse: [2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those WHO ATTACK, BUT DO NOT AGGRESS. GOD does not love the aggressors. This prob only arises when one ignores the context of the Quran and quottes individual verses from here and there thus not understanding the Quran at all. user:jonnyk1982

I read it. 9:29, in context, seems to be referring to all Jews and Christians. Arrow740 03:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

JK- Man arrow, plz try to understand. There is no word "all(kulli in arabic)" there if you wanna be technical. It talks about THOSE Jews and christians who together with the pagans drove people out of their homes just coz they didnt wanna associate partners with GOD and they also attacked them. The general rule reg Jews and Christians in the Quran is: [2:62] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve. [2:62] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve. [60:8] GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable. [60:9] GOD enjoins you only from befriending those who fight you because of religion, evict you from your homes, and band together with others to banish you. You shall not befriend them. Those who befriend them are the transgressors.

This only shows you did not understand the Quran but just took individual verses out of context, doesnt it? JonnyK

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