User talk:Joopercoopers/Archive 2

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copy editor's league

hi; i just wanted to thank-you for the friendly advice, which i've followed. sry 2 see you are retired, hope it's not permantent.Lx 121 (talk) 19:30, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

RfR

I've left a question on RfR for you. Thanks. Acalamari 23:30, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Cathedral

Replied here. Samsara (talk • contribs) 01:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Re:Chester Cathedral

Much better. If you could give it one more town-down to eliminate the glare, it should be good. Juliancolton Talk 01:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey jooper

What's happening? You wrote.. "The best way to go along with this is to discuss it in the talk page for circumcision. I checked your addition, and I think that you were reverted because you added it to the lead introduction. I think such a fact would go much better into a specific section like "HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases" or "Risks of circumcision."

Why do these guys get to put "Circumcision can reduce HIV" in the lead introduction??????? Really?? That is unfair! Why aren't you telling them to take all that stuff thats not directly about circumcision OFF the lead introduction? How come they get to put all that crap in the lead introduction about HIV but i can't put the ONE sentence down about herpes and chlamydia? Lead introduction? Read the article's circumcision lead introduction and tell me it's not filled with stuff just as important as what I am putting in. Thank you. 70.114.38.167 (talk) 07:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

hey

oops wrong person, sorry. Two people sent me what looked like identical messages. Sorry. Anyway.. you wrote "I'm afraid I think Bishonen may no longer be with us."

I'm sorry cooper I don't know who Bishonen is. Who is that? 70.114.38.167 (talk) 07:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Origins and architecture of the Taj Mahal

Why don't you nominate the article for the GA process? --Redtigerxyz (talk) 11:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't believe in the GA process. --Joopercoopers (talk) 13:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

The Never Ending Siege of The Taj Mahal

Holy toledo...Amazed you can keep this up. --Nemonoman (talk) 02:39, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Favour - a big one

I wannt to start a collaberation to write the best featured article ever, a real bonkbuster of a page, here's the subject Pena National Palace, yep OK it's not classical architecture, and architecturally it may be a littlechallenging - where do you come in? Well! you remember that very clever map you made for prince's Palace of Monaco..... except I want it to be a clicky map too, we can do it step by step and I'll advise, but sort of linking to all the photographs that Husond has taken, there are quite few, quite a lot in fact. what do you think. I can do the straight forward maps, the one at Queluz is mine, not the clicky part, but the layout, but Pena has lots of odd angles and round towers, and I'm not very good at those, in fact I can only do rectangles - what do you say? Giano (talk) 13:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I can't decide if it's beautiful or atrocious - the pastel colours are beguiling, but the tower with the fireworks at each corner is......disneyland. But yeah, sure - glad to help - and glad you're back btw. --Joopercoopers (talk) 13:33, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

It is beautiful, although some people do find it atrocious. Personally I think it's the most magical place made by man. Giano, a map/diagram of the palace would be quite a challenging task indeed. Perhaps 3 maps (one showing the front, one showing the back and one showing the palace from above) would be easier than a single 3-dimensional map. Unfortunately I forgot to bring many resources I have about the palace to Slovenia. I will have access to them only next month when I go back to Portugal for a short visit. Anyway, I agree with Giano that this palace has an immense potential to become one of the best articles on Wikipedia. Regards, Húsönd 14:56, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

We shall need some books, but we have plenty of time, and you are eht only one likely to have any books, I'm happy to write it, but you will have to lay out and ref the bare facts with page numbers etc. Giano (talk) 15:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll see if I can find something while I'm trapped here. I'd love to have this in my hands, but I'm sure I can get it for much less in any bookstore in Sintra. Húsönd 15:22, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

By the way, if we are to wait until the end of April for Pena Palace resources, I should recommend Sintra itself to be expanded in the mean time. Unlike the palace, there's so much material available for Sintra. The current state of that article is embarrassing. Regards, Húsönd 15:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Triton

Back

As a note, the two Husond supplied images at right are both considered (Quality Images) on Commons. One is an edited (by CarolSpears) version of the one I nominated (note the towers are complete and the sky is higher, that's all made up!) but they both deserve to be included in any future FA! Hope that helps, happy editing! ++Lar: t/c 19:56, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Lar rest assured I am not known for leaving images out, Yomangani is trying to escape the building even as we speak, but I have him tagged. Giano (talk) 20:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Giano has imprinted me with an image of a naked birdwatcher that appears in my mind's eye every time I move the mouse towards "Log out". Yomangani^talk 02:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Ha! Just seen the image on the right, I had no idea that particular Arbonaut had been imortalised in stone. We might even make that the lead image. Giano (talk) 20:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Crown Fountain FAC

Based on your comments at Wikipedia:WikiProject Architecture/Peer review/Crown Fountain you may want to comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Crown Fountain

Thanks. I had to withdraw the nomination because two New York Times articles are now only viewable for a fee.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 17:43, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I decided not to withdraw the nomination. If you have any comments. Come share them.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 02:34, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Your unwanted attentions

My vestibule, though capacious, is not for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to enter, Mr Joopercoopers. And that nasty crusty growth in your entrance way (nothing so grand as a vestibule for you, no doubt) needs attention. I suggest you consult a physician, perhaps one specialising in certain disorders, post haste.

Princess Venetia di Cannoli (talk) 11:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Chester Cathedral

Thanks for your excellent photos of Chester Cathedral. I should like to use them all, but there's not enough room. I've swapped the ceiling with the choirstalls, because I think the latter is a "must". Probably going to go for GA with the article (whether you are a "believer" or not!) - it's a bit of much needed kudos for the Cheshire Project. Are you going to add the images to WP:Commons? If you did they would then be available with the {{commonscat}} link. Keep up the excellent work. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:35, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

New Chester Cathedral image

Hi. The new image you've taken is definitely an improvement over the original in terms of tonality and exposure, but I still think the colour temperature is a bit peculiar... I think you might have overcorrected it though, as the lower portion is a bit yellow-green, instead of the yellow-orange that you would expect. I'm happy to have a look at the original files again (if you can be bothered emailing them, it must have been a bit laborious to attach them) if you'd like, or you could just adjust the colour balance yourself. I think fine tuning the colour/exposure is probably all that is necessary for FPC, although you can never quite be sure how hostile and critical the response is going to be. Tone mapped images have great potential but they're obviously much more difficult to keep natural looking. :-) Oh, and I think theres a dust blob just above the middle tower on one of the clouds. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 08:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: New Chester Cathedral image

Sorry for the belated reply, I was in cancun mexico for spring break (be looking for some Chichen Itza theme pictures in the next week or two) Anyway... the new image is far and away the best and, even in its current (slightly blue form) would earn my support. The composition is 100% better as is the sharpness, and tone mapping. I share Diliff's concerns about the color temperature even though I think it adds to the mood of the picture is some ways ;-). It would be better corrected though. If you end up sending the files to Diliff, I'd be happy to have a look as well, but I think you'd do just as good a job yourself. Get that color a bit better and I so no reason why it would fail FPC. Cheers -Fcb981(talk:contribs) 03:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Fix double entry

Hello! You deleleted the following from Parnell on the grounds that it was a "double entry": At the age of thirty-two and after just over four years in parliament he had put into place a political coalition without precedent in Irish politics I do not find how it can be termed a "double" entry? It was a single relevant point made by Paul Bew and I feel it still needs to be retained, in other words I wish to re-instate it unless convinced to the contrary? Greetings Osioni (talk) 18:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Created with opensource tool Qtpfsgui, http://qtpfsgui.sourceforge.net

Why on Earth did you create that? J Milburn (talk) 21:48, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I see! J Milburn (talk) 21:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Stretton water mill

Have nominated this image at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates - Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Stretton water mill. Good luck. --jjron (talk) 14:13, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Chester Cathedral again

Ah mate.. I think you've overcompensated in the other direction again, it looks far too red-orange now. I've taken the previous one and changed the colour balance a bit and it looks roughly the way I was looking for, with neutral foreground colour and blue sky, which I imagine was the way it originally looked. Rather than upload yet another edit, I'll just give you the values I used. I used +4 towards the Red, -8 towards Magenta, and +15 towards Blue, leaving tone balance on the midtones (this is in Photoshop Colour Balance). I'm happy to email you the version I've edited. Its probably not perfect though, and I'd like to have a go with the originals if you'll give me access to them. I'll send you an email. Can't promise I can improve on the edit I just described, but its worth a shot. The image has potential, it just needs some polish. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 17:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

• Would prefer to start from the very beginning (NEF files) if possible, which would give me the best chance and flexibility with the post production. Just to confirm, when you re-shot this scene, you did capture 3 exposure-bracketed images per segment, with only the shutter speed varying (ie, not the aperture), right? Just wanted to confirm the capture is in order before you go to the trouble of uploading them. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 23:04, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
  • PS: you need to find new friends. Or at least, get their eyes checked. ;-) Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 23:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
    • I'm having a look at the images now... Another issue that I've just spotted is that there is quite a bit of movement between some frames, and some of the frames are a bit blurry (presumably motion blur? But I've noticed in some of the frames theres actually blur only one the right side of the frames and not in the centre... peculiar).. I assume you didn't use a sturdy tripod and the camera was blown around a bit by the wind? Also, because you used 4 frames to bracket, presumably you didn't auto bracket (or did you mention your camera doesn't auto bracket? I can't remember now), so you would have had to physically manipulate the camera to change exposures between frames, also resulting in camera movement... Hmmmm. Anyway, those movements between frames has buggered up one idea I was thinking of, which would have required pixel perfect alignment on each frame, but I'll still have a go with Photomatix as it can auto align... Will let you know if/when I come up with something! Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 15:23, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
      • Re the motion blur (or some sort of blur anyway), have a look at the difference in sharpness between the centre and right side of DSC_3906.NEF (most obvious in the window and seat details), or the difference in sharpness between DSC_3918.NEF and DSC_3919.NEF. Its quite a subtle blur and doesn't seem to be directional - if it were directional, I might suggest it looks like you've bumped the camera, but its just a general softness. Did you have the camera on auto focus or manual focus? Auto might explain it. Anyway, sorry for being picky. I know how difficult it can be, but I've also done enough of these sort of panoramas to know what to try to avoid. :-) I always use a timer and remote shutter (and if I'm being really careful, mirror lock) to avoid blur. If its windy, I try to attach my (heavy) camera bag to the hook at the base of the tripod for stability. It all helps. Anyway, still working on the panorama. At this stage, I'm not sure I can improve significantly on what you've done, but at the very least, I can upload the colour-corrected version of the old one which I think looked about right. I'll let you know soon. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 16:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Long grass

I hadn't thought of the "long grass" thing. But I would like to note that "your offer to provide stats on blocking and who did it to established users" is a misunderstanding. If I had the technical skill and know-how to do this, I'd go ahead and do it myself, but I am actually looking for someone (pr some others) to help me do this. That's probably why I missed the "I'll get back to you on this" bit. Though I'm as bad as anyone at not actually following up on things, so I so sympathise. Sometimes I think everyone should try and do less, but better. The question is, which bits need more attention? Prioritisation has never been easy. Carcharoth (talk) 12:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Laws on Civility

Here is something that I posted on the earlier IRC decision page about a court case which ruled that the term "civility" was too broad to be enforceable.[1]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080121-9999-1m21civil.html]

California State University trustees will consider a revision to a section of the student conduct code Wednesday that includes an expectation that students be “civil.” The change would make it more clear that disciplinary action for “uncivil” conduct is not allowed.

A Northern California court recently ruled the term is too broad.

“The court told us we could not base discipline on civility . . . There is a certain lack of precision to that word,” said Christine Helwick, general counsel for CSU. The policy affects students at 23 CSU campuses, including SDSU and Cal State San Marcos.

That's not to say that students will be permitted to shove someone out of the way while rushing to class. Helwick said students can be disciplined for specific acts of incivility laid out in the conduct code, such as lewd or obscene behavior.

Helwick said it was never the CSU's intention to discipline students for the more general charge of “incivility.” She said the revision will make it “abundantly clear.”

“We thought it was clear before,” Helwick said.

A federal district judge in Oakland didn't. At a November hearing, U.S. Magistrate Wayne Brazil said that a university can say it hopes students will be “civil,” but it can't hold a punishment over their heads if they're not. Brazil granted a preliminary injunction, barring the CSU from basing disciplinary proceedings on incivility.

This case doesn't apply here because Wikipedia is not required to respect freedom of speech or freedom of expression, but it is an interesting ruling on the perils of trying to enforce civility. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uncle uncle uncle (talk • contribs)