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A tag has been placed on Joseph berger (neurologist), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

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Dear Syrthiss,

This is a biographical article with tons of real sources from Medical Journals.

My name is Josh Hood and I'm writing about a doctor who does brain research that I read about a few times in medical journals. I compiled all this information at my local medical library. I'm a student.

Josh Hood

Dear Josh - nobody is claiming that Dr Berger is not notable. What we are objecting to is that the structure of the article seemed less about documenting him and more about pushing his cv. Let me give you an example - your article was 181k. Ronald Reagan (whether you like or dislike him) is 191k. If you wished to make an article on Dr. Berger, I recommend that you go through WP:AFC. There is no need to list every single paper that he has written, that is why he has a CV linked on the web. State simply - who he is, why he meets the general notability guidelines, provide reliable references that confirm that. Then you can expand his biographical information (where he went to school, positions he has held). Hope this helps. Syrthiss (talk) 13:41, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Josh, Syrthiss beat me to the reply, I agree entirely with his advice. I'm sure there's a good article in there somewhere. I hope you find it. Bazj (talk) 13:50, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Josh, Speaking for myself, though I suspect Syrthiss would agree, much of the problem lies in the tons of real sources. It's a level of detail which obscures any notability Berger may have. It's the sort of detail which may be appropriate on an application for a research grant, but is overkill for an encyclopedia entry. It makes Albert Einstein look like a no-mark slacker in comparison. The article is, for the most part, going to be read by non-medics and people who have a passing interest in the topic, not by fanatics who want to know how many cysts he drained while a med-student. Tone it down. Let readers see how notable he is, don't hide the notability in a mass of trivial detail. Hope that helps, Cheers, Bazj (talk) 13:50, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

February 2012

Please do not write an article about yourself, as you did at Joseph berger (neurologist). Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was my page deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss it with the deleting administrator. Thank you. Bazj (talk) 13:18, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Dear Bazj,

Hello, My name is Josh Hood. My article about Dr. Joseph Berger who is currently head of neurology at the University of Kentucky is biographical. I am NOT Joseph Berger.

Thank You!

Josh Hood

My mistake. Bazj (talk) 13:34, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Bazj is my article OK for approval now (can you approve it please?)

Thank You!

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Re: Bazj and JamesBWatson

Is my article OK for approval? It is a) biographical and b) all informational and cited. There is only a link to the University of Kentucky Neurology department which has all of the information about the research they are doing, which this doctor is the head of.

I've added some wikilinks, external links & categories, added a reference link to UK website (to prevent the article falling foul of WP:BLPPROD). Hope you can see it's more, er, "wiki", and that you've got a sound base here to build on. Cheers, Bazj (talk) 14:59, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

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