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Nomination of T-Money (rapper) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article T-Money (rapper) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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from: Elsa Enchanted (talk) 12:59, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

T-Money

Hi I wanted to reach out because I saw your article, T-Money (rapper), has been nominated for deletion. Looks like it's your first article so if you want help, I'd be glad to lend a hand to see if we can edit it to a place where it might be accepted. I'd just hop on in myself but since it's largely based on print sources I don't have access to, your input would be essential! Let me know if you're up for working together--just click "talk" link behind my username here, and then "new section" in the page it takes you to, to leave me a message. Cheers! Innisfree987 (talk) 22:53, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Hey, just saw your reply, that's great, let's do it!

• So my first suggestion would be to make sure you've got a copy of this draft saved to your own computer or the cloud or whatever, because this is such valuable music history and even if parts or even the whole topic can't be made to fit the Wikipedia format, it should definitely find a home somewhere!

• A big thing that was surprising to me when I started editing WP was learning that it's not enough just for entries to be true--because anyone is allowed to edit any part of WP (rather than, say, only historians being allowed to edit history or only music critics music topics, etc.--or even if we had historians to fact-check all the history submissions and music critics to fact-check all the music submissions, alas we do not), the way we try to ensure information is reliable is to ask that when an editor adds anything to the encyclopedia, they pair it with reference to a reliable secondary source. Basically, a source that 1, has already been fact-checked (so a newspaper, magazine, academic journal, a book, as long as it's not self-published), and 2, that anyone else could go verify that it really is true. So unfortunately, the interview probably is not a source that can be used in this entry, because it's what the subject said about himself, rather than being fact-checked and published by an independent, secondary source. (It's a really good example of something that's obviously valuable and totally should have a home somewhere, regardless of whether it matches the WP format.)

• So a good place to start would be to cut (sadly) anything from the entry that's only in the interview, rather than in a book, article or other publication written and fact-checked by someone other than the subject.

• Then, with what remains, you'll want to make sure basically every sentence has a citation. I see you've already figure out how to use the same citation at multiple places in the entry, which is great. Definitely add the refs to everything you can, and if you have any more sources that you haven't added yet, definitely put those in--the extent of sourcing available on a topic is the main question for the deletion discussion, and the more you can provide, the easier it is to persuade other editors we have enough secondary source material to create a full, balanced entry.

...ok that seems like plenty to start with for now! On my end I'll make a few edits for what we call "neutrality". Basically the idea is, the encyclopedia just reflects what secondary sources have written, rather than being the historians or critics who decide, say, whether someone was "legendary." So if a source uses that word, you can quote the source; otherwise, we leave it out. If I delete something and you do have a source for it, please do add it back in with the source!

Cool, happy to be working together! And feel free just to reply here or on the entry's talk page, I'll keep an eye on both for messages. Cheers, Innisfree987 (talk) 22:39, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Your contributed article, T-Money (host, rapper, DJ)

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Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, T-Money (host, rapper, DJ). First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – T-Money (rapper). Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at T-Money (rapper) – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Wgolf (talk) 00:25, 30 October 2016 (UTC)