Joy iliya
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editHello, Joy iliya, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Shalor and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.
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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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editHi, I have some notes on your work:
- The article should most likely be retitled to "Black women architects in the United States", as this article is US specific instead of global.
- Watch out for non-neutral phrasing. For example, calling someone notable could be seen as subjective unless you have enough in-depth, secondary sourcing to justify listing them. Even the word pioneer can be seen as non-neutral or even original research without proper sourcing.
- Be careful of sourcing. Some of the sourcing you used isn't reliable. For example, Wikipedia is seen as an unreliable source since anyone can edit it and as such, cannot source itself.
- ThoughtCo is also problematic since the site and all of the content put out by Dotdash (the parent company) is seen as inconsistent and at times has just mirrored Wikipedia content. To show that the source should be used you'd have to be able to show where the author is routinely seen as a trusted authority in reliable sources, such as academic and scholarly sources as well as news articles and the like. In this case the author does look to be a trusted authority, but the point of mentioning this is that you need to be very cautious with your sourcing. It's typically better to use the college databases first, as not everything on the Internet is reliable.
- The list of women needs independent and reliable sources to show where they are notable. Just performing within the field isn't enough. Someone could also ask why someone being the second black woman to graduate from the Rhode Island university past a specific point in time is notable. (Believe it or not, people do challenge things like this.) That's why it's important to use a source like this to show where she's notable, as a major newspaper (The LA Times) has written that she has broken boundaries. This article stating the same is also good, since it's written by a major architecture magazine (Architecture magazine).
- For the external links section only include content that can be freely accessed (no paywalled content) and links to coverage in notable magazines and the like. You shouldn't link to Twitter - however you can link to the article embedded within the tweet.
The most major point, however, is that you need to be able to show where this specific topic is notable outside of the main page on African-Americans in architecture or even the page on women in architecture. (I would honestly argue that it should be re-titled, however, since not all black people are African-American, but that's an aside.) At this point there's not a lot of coverage to show where this couldn't be covered in a section in the main article. That's why it's important to find as much good sourcing that specifically covers black women in architecture and establish it as its own notable topic. I'd recommend adding things like the history of black women in architecture and common barriers that they face. I'd also recommend that you review the article on women in architecture for ideas on sections and for the layout.
Since the general history of women in architecture would arguably contribute to the history of black women in architecture, I'd recommend including a couple of sentences about the history. Nothing in depth, just a note about when women first became able to attend schools, when they started to gain recognition, and the like. From there you can expand to cover the history of black women in specific and if coverage allows, show how this access and exposure continued to be denied to black women. I'll do a search and see if I can help find any sourcing out there. I've also moved the page back to your userspace because of the above notes. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:51, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- Here are some sources. I'm not sure if you've used some of them already, as I'm just pulling stuff up en masse. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9]. I'll post more in a moment. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:00, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- More: [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23] (primary, but may be usable if we can find a good secondary source from one of the other sources citing it), "african-american"+"female+architect"&lr=&source=gbs_navlinks_s, [24]
- This source didn't come up with a link, but if you can find it it looks to be promising: Harris, P. E. "Mentors-An African-American female architect describes the many challenges faced by minority women considering the field." (1998): 28-28. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:24, 13 August 2019 (UTC)