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Marking edits as minor and uploading alternate covers

Hi. Please stop marking large changes to content as minor. This edit is by no means small. Please see Help:Minor edit for what constitutes a minor edit. Also, I see you uploaded an alternate cover for "Starstruck". This is not substantially different from the original—it's just coloured pink and added a picture of Kylie. We need to be judicious about our use of covers on Wikipedia, and only those substantially different that cannot be adequately described in a few words of prose should be uploaded per WP:NFCC. Non-free media should be used sparingly. Therefore, I've removed your upload of the cover from the article. Thanks. Ss112 14:36, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

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Hana (album)

I find it disappointing that you've expanded the article and completely changed my citation style and copypasted what you made in your sandbox over an established article. Please do not do this in future—you should never do this to others' work. You should work on expanding the existing article in mainspace. I have conformed what citations you've altered back to how I had them originally, and I'd appreciate it if you'd follow that with any subsequent edits per WP:CITEVAR and WP:RETAIN, rather than unnecessarily changing the citation parameters to where you want them to be. I started the article, which means how I formatted the citations should be maintained per the two cited guidelines. Along with that, you completely ignored an IP editor adding unsourced genres in the infobox. Don't you think that's something you should have caught and removed? Also, instead of following on after the user El tinto's disruptive edit warring (as they had already been reverted by me), you have just gone along with the apparent fact that there are only two singles and "Everything Is Sweet" is a promotional single, for which there is no source. Do not restore the stylisation note either—I deliberately did not include it. MOS:CAPS applies, and no source has actually rendered the title "HANA 花". Ss112 22:31, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Also, no source states that Hana will be Ellis-Bextor's "final" album with Ed Harcourt, so this has been removed. Please don't claim things that aren't supported by sources. If there is a source that overall calls it a pop album, you need to explicitly cite which citation this is from. For future reference as well: do not use Apple Music as a source per WP:AFFILIATE. We do not need to source the track listing or credits per MOS:ALBUM, as the liner notes are expected to be the source and they "do not require explicit citation in most cases". Ss112 23:14, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your point on changing the citation style, an honest mistake and I will be sure to take it on board. Your point, however, on "don't you think that's something you should have caught" is confusing to me and rather harsh. Same goes for "completely ignoring" which is not the case at all — I tried to expand the article, not complete it and I had planned on continuing to work on it. As for "Everything Is Sweet" being a promotional single, I had consulted WP:Singles criteria: the fact that Ellis-Bextor had referred to the others as "singles" and this as a "song" upon their releases, and the song receiving a streaming / digital download only as opposed to the others being sent to radio, lead me to conclude it is indeed a promotional single. I had assumed the song being referred to as a single by a random media outlet — in this case, Retropop Magazine — is not a factor that suggests a song is a single as per WP:Singles criteria. KHBritish (talk) 15:26, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Furthermore, if you did read the source that is cited on the page, you would find that it does state Hana is her last with Ed Harcourt. Twice; "Her third and final offering with collaborator Ed Harcourt", and then Ellis-Bextor explicitly states that "Ed and I decided we'd do three albums together and stop, and this is the final one." KHBritish (talk) 15:26, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

You're right, I didn't see The Forty Five source. I've restored the "final" part. As for what else I said, while it may be "rather harsh", I still find it strange that you expanded pretty much every aspect of the article but didn't notice an IP editor had slipped in unsourced genres. I didn't catch it as I hadn't been back on the article for several days. As for the singles, do you have a source for the other two singles being serviced to radio? If it's just a source saying they were added to a BBC playlist I don't think that's confirmation they were serviced to radio and are therefore "proper singles" as compared to "Everything Is Sweet". They need external add dates outside of the BBC. If Ellis-Bextor choosing to say "song" is what we're going off (and that's what the editor El tinto meant by she "has confirmed that she has only released two singles from the album and that Everything is Sweet is just a promo single"), I don't find that particularly convincing or explicit either—perhaps she just decided to say "song" instead of "single" that time. Ss112 20:14, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

I understand social media is not the most preferred source, but Ellis-Bextor herself did tweet: "It’s not a single, just another song you can listen to straight away" when discussing the song. KHBritish (talk) 12:39, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

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