KathrineS

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Hello KathrineS! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 17:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC) Getting started Wikipedia tutorial • The five pillars of Wikipedia How to: edit a page • upload and use images Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • Reliable sources Verifiability • Citing sources • No original research What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Fair use • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User name • User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General - Spam - Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

Warnings

Please do not post copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder, as you did to Hunted Cow Studios. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites (http://www.huntedcow.com/ in this case) or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) then you should do one of the following:

• If you have permission from the author leave a message explaining the details on the article Talk page and send an email with the message to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org". See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
• If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted under the GFDL or released into the public domain leave a note at Talk:Hunted Cow Studios with a link to where we can find that note;
• If you own the copyright to the material: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL, and note that you have done so on the article Talk page. Alternatively, you may create a note on your web page releasing the work under the GFDL and then leave a note at Talk:Hunted Cow Studios with a link to the details.

Otherwise, you are encouraged to rewrite this article in your own words to avoid any copyright infringement. After you do so, you should place a {{hangon}} tag on the article page and leave a note at Talk:Hunted Cow Studios saying you have done so. An administrator will review the new content before taking action.

It is also important that all Wikipedia articles have an encyclopedic tone and follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Your original contributions are welcome. --Finngall ^talk 16:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia's policies on spam and conflict of interest. --Finngall ^talk 16:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Hunted Cow Studios

On your talk page above, someone has already provided ways as to how you can handle this situation. Please follow one of these methods to make the copyright acceptable for Wikipedia. Also, I contest that Hunted Cow Studios does not meet WP:CORP notability guidelines, which means an article on the subject should not be created. Nishkid64 (talk) 16:46, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

May 2007

Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia articles, such as those you made to Hoofmaster, even if your ultimate intention is to fix them. Such edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Dweller 07:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Please do not recreate deleted nonsense material. --Dweller 16:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Notability of Hoofmaster

A tag has been placed on Hoofmaster, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you feel that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. 72.75.73.158 16:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Duplicate images uploaded

Thanks for uploading Image:AndrewMulholland.jpg. A machine-controlled robot account noticed that you also uploaded the same image under the name Image:Andrew.jpg. The copy called Image:Andrew.jpg has been marked for speedy deletion since it is redundant. If this sounds okay to you, there is no need for you to take any action.

This is an automated message- you have not upset or annoyed anyone. In the future, you may save yourself some confusion if you supply a meaningful file name and remember exactly which name you chose (file names are case sensitive, including the extension) so that you won't lose track of your uploads. For tips on good file naming, see Wikipedia's image use policy. If you have any questions about this notice, or feel that the deletion is inappropriate, please contact User:Staecker, who operates the robot account. Staeckerbot 17:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Hoofmaster

It is no longer necessary to keep adding {{hangon}} to the article as it is no longer tagged for speedy deletion. The article is now the subject of an Articles for deletion discussion which will determine whether the article is deleted. This can be found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hoofmaster. Regards. Adambro 17:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Recreation of article and changing afd tag

Do not recreate the Andrew Mulholland article again or change the page name in the AfD tag on Hoofmaster. If the article survives AfD you can move it (or request it be moved) to his real name. Yomangani^talk 15:27, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

The current article has had several edits which are not valid and removed important information. The 2nd article wa created to preserve the information and to meet suggestions. KathrineS 15:52, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

You can continue editing the original article during the AfD process and, if it survives, it can be moved to the correct title using the move facility once the discussion is complete. Creating a second article is not the correct procedure, as this removes the page history and makes it look as if you are attempting to circumvent the deletion discussion. If the original article contains what you consider to be incorrect information or lacks information you feel is important, then you need to make a case to the involved editors to correct or add the appropriate information. Yomangani^talk 16:02, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

User:72.75.73.158's speedy deletions

I am concerned by User:72.75.73.158, who seems to feel authorized to use anonymity to evade the consequences for breaching the wikipeida's policies.

Could you fill me in on the details of the article your started that they tagged for speedy deletion?

I too have had a perfectly legitimate article tagged for speedy deletion, and then quickly deleted by a careless admin, in spite of having a {{hangon}} placed on it.

There is a procedure for asking to have an article "undeleted". It shouldn't be painful, or time-consuming, when the deleting administrator failed to comply with the rules. However, in the case of this article I started, was both painful and time-consuming. But, if yours seems legitimate to me, I'll help make it less painful for you...

Cheers! Geo Swan 17:03, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I have had several articles 'speedily' deleted and a couple of others that 'vanished' before the 5 days discussion was up. My most recent article vanished overnight - Hoofmaster. It was supposed to be renamed and moved, however it has just been deleted. There was a lot of discussion regarding it, which will obviously now go unresolved and the editors in question get away with bullying etc as the article no longer exists. Gothador, Fallen Sword and Hunted Cow Studios were all speedy deletes too. KathrineS 23:59, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm. The wikipedia documentation could be a lot clearer on how to trace the responsibility for who deleted an article.

Article	Deletion log (CSD code) - Instigator	justification offered
Hunted Cow Studios	G12 - Finngall (talk · contribs)	Blatant copyright infringement (G12)
Hoofmaster	A7 - 72.75.73.158 (talk · contribs)	Unremarkable people, groups, companies and websites (A7) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hoofmaster
Gothador	A7 - Mike Rosoft (talk · contribs)	Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gothador
Fallen Sword	A7 - 72.75.73.158 (talk · contribs)	Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fallen Sword

I'll return tomorrow with some comments on the channels to restoration...

Cheers Geo Swan 07:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I just stumbled across this page, and the answers were right in front of your face all along ... if the delete log doesn't have the answer, try "What links here" for the deleted article ... I have taken the liberty of updating the table you provided to include the editors who instigated the speedy deletes while on New pages patrol.

Gee, did I really instigate the deletion of all of those articles? (Nope, only half of them. :-) ... and yet you got them restored, and they were still deleted by consensus of the Senior Partners ... I didn't even bother to offer my 2¢ worth during the AfD for Fallen Sword.

These speedy deletions, and Geo Swan (talk · contribs) having my IP blocked from editing, are something I'd rather put behind me, but at least it resulted in my new/revised protocol described in What to do after your speedy delete has been restored ... at the risk violating Do not feed the troll, I invite you to make your suggestions/comments on that sandbox.

As for KathrineS (talk · contribs) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hoofmaster, what brought me here today is that I finally noticed Hoofmaster had gone redlink ... once I had made some comments at the AfD, my IP address changed, and besides, it was time to MOVE ON ... I remember participating in that AfD, and even doing some WikiGnome cleanups on Hoofmaster, but as for Gothador and Fallen Sword, it looks like the Counter Vandalism Unit tagged them as "recreated by author after a CSD ({{db-repost}})" ... apparently I did leave a warning about the CSD for Hoofmaster that led to it being deleted, restored, and immediately taken to AfD, so I'll gladly own up to that speedy delete call ... because it's gone now, too, in spite of the extra time that the AfD provided.

Now, before I can finally MOVE ON from "The 72.75 Incident," I'd like to remind you folks of two things ... my edit history (scroll to the bottom for the oldest entries) shows all of the courtesy warnings I left while on New Pages Patrol on 01 May 2007 ... if I had not left these messages, the editors might not have known what happened to their articles ... so don't blame me if you didn't read my warning before Some Other Editor (an admin) agreed with my tag and deleted the unworthy article/stub/whatever.

That you were somehow offended or affronted by the notion that an anonymous IP editor's opinions and judgments of your contributions should even be considered by the Senior Partners must have been a fallacious assumption on your part, seeing as how the consensus decision was "kill it before it grows" ... so it appears that I was not Too Quick to judge these articles.

Which brings me to my second point, which is "If you had just used your sandbox first and provided some WP:A to support WP:N, then these articles wouldn't have been deleted!" ... I've tried to take my share of the responsibility for articles that were mistakenly deleted by CSD and restored, but apparently none of these were mistakes, because they're all redlinked now.

And since they are, I can once again MOVE ON ... Happy Editing! —68.239.79.82 (talk · contribs) 05:06, 12 May 2007 (UTC)