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Hi Kielbasa1. In reposnse to your query about the -brand in Hildebrand on my Talk page, I've posted some info at Talk:Hildebrand. --Pfold (talk) 13:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Sumerian and Language Isolate

If I didnt misunderstood, you offer a consensus. If so, yes I agree. Because the edition I prefer for these pages is something like that. Just I demand a revision in the manner and fashion of language/discourse of the article. Now, it is too decisive. An expression like this; -currently, Sumeran is (can be) considered a language isolate, but there are probable (likely) relatives (connected languages). Evidences are weak and and further research needed-.. Something like that.

Thank you for your considerations.Okurogluselo : Blah 20:51, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

But if the evidence is weak, then the 'relatives' aren't probable. And if we included every suggested family like that, then there would be one for every language on the article, including Basque. The improbable families (like Khoisan or Hokan) that are in the article are included because the 'families' are still believed in by a significant number of non-linguists. Ural-Altaic is both nearly universally rejected (especially as containing Sumerian) and quite obscure. The Sumerian language page already has a section for proposed relatives. Kielbasa1 (talk) 21:32, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

See. So say, not weak, disputable or something like that. Minority view. In fact, I dont approve that Ural-Altaic exist, researches is not enough. In fact, even the situation of Altaic is arguable, because of the place of Mongol language. So, even Taivo introduced me in other way, I dont defend any relatives of Sumerian with Ural-Altaic. Anyway, US universities and Russians dont like to study this area, and others dont have enough sources for research.

You may remember, just I dont feel comfortable with the the article of Language Isolate. I want the usage of modal "can be" instead of "is". Also, minority view references could be given. Yes, there is a view about that Sumerian is langauge isolate but there are other views. By the way, majority view also needs references in the article. Not only for the short section of Sumerian, but also for all article.

And as you said, in the Article of Sumerian Language there is a list of researches about cognates. So a sentence about "other views", "minority" or "objections" could be added to the Language Isolate section. Anyway, it is an extict language and it is hard to be so decisive about its situation.

I initiated a discussion in the talk page of Language Isolate. May I invite you to consider the issue? I declared some problems about cuneiforms and restrictions on the Sumerian studies, also some questionnarie points oabout the studies and majority views. That is why I think minortiy views could replace the majority in the future. It is not a bad thing to encourage young readers to study Sumerian. And, even some other claim it differently, there is nothing to be in conflict with any wiki principles. It is not against WP:UNDUE or WP:FRINGE because, still I say minority should be introduced as minority.

Please take look to the talk page. I dont expect support,it is up to you as a free soul. Just I think you are reasonable. Thank you.Okurogluselo : Blah 01:19, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

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What changes were you looking for exactly? There are two, thorough, academic-quality references there.Kielbasa1 (talk) 19:42, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

I've submitted the article for review essentially as is. I would still very much like to hear what you think it's missing. Did you actually check the sources, or do you have much knowledge of Papuan religious systems in general? Kielbasa1 (talk) 03:01, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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