Kievlyanin

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May 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Babi Yar, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Fæ (talk) 11:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Andean Cock-of-the-rock. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Fæ (talk) 11:03, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

My intention was to link the new Russian interwiki. The other effect was obviously due to a Skype extension in my Firefox browser and was not intended. Concerning the Babi Yar, I wonder why you criticize me. Are you an expert on East European history? Of course, not all of tens of thousands people who were executed in Babi Yar were Jews. Among them were represantatives of other ethnic groups who where enemies of the Nazi regime and were to be executed as well. User Galassi groundlessly tries to delete this information and you don't criticize him, but me. That wonders me a lot. Kievlyanin (talk) 11:09, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

There is no requirement to pick through vandalism in order to edit out potentially good parts of a contribution. If an edit damages an article, as yours did, then the guidance of WP:VANDALISM recommends it is reverted with the burden being on the contributor to ensure they make a non-damaging contribution. The warning above related to your non-constructive edit, it does not imply that I know more about the subject than you may do. I would like to point out that you would be better off discussing your point of view in order to reach a consensus for these changes before making blanket and apparently controversial changes across several articles. At the moment you appear to be failing to comply with WP:RS (as you are not supporting your changes with independent reliably published sources) or with WP:NPOV. Fæ (talk) 11:27, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

You were to quick to qualify my edits as vandalism which assumes bad will. Probably you should have wait for my reaction instead of accusing me of vandalism just one minute after your first message. In the article Babi Yar, it was Galassi who without discussion removed the information about other ethnic groups killed in Babi Yar which is absolutely common knowlegde. BTW, Galassi never had problems with reverting even sourced information he doesn't like. Kievlyanin (talk) 17:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Your edit didn't make much sense, and was uncited. Are you saying that Russians, Ukrainians, etc. were among the 31k killed? Usually they are included in the post-babi yar numbers, but not in the initial days killing totals. If you have evidence that makes the 31k figure of a more 'international' variety, then please provide it, as it would be useful for the article. As you edited it, it seemed to be a POV push more than good faith editing, as I've seen some other bad edits in your history.--Львівське (talk) 18:27, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Orsha

There are sources yes, however you don't present all the sources in a NPOV way.  Dr. Loosmark  18:38, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Please discuss at the discussion page there. I opened a topic. I would like you to give more concrete information on your objections. --Kievlyanin (talk) 18:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC)