User talk:Kkrouni/Archive1

Thank you all for my unbanning. And thank you Cascadia and Funpika, for all of your help with my userpages, and unbanning.

NOTE: I many things to do, both here and in the real world. I will try to keep up and I probably will, but responses may be delayed for hours to a day or two. (PS. I turn in for the night at ~0:10 UTC sometimes later).

Welcome

Hello Kkrouni! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! -- Levine2112 discuss 19:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC) Getting started Wikipedia tutorial • The five pillars of Wikipedia How to: edit a page • upload and use images Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • Reliable sources Verifiability • Citing sources • No original research What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Fair use • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The "perfect" article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User name • User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General - Spam - Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

Welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome your help to create new content, but your recent additions (such as User:Sony trademark vs dell trademark) are considered nonsense. Please refrain from creating nonsense articles. If you want to test things out, edit the sandbox instead. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. -- Levine2112 ^discuss 19:35, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your welcome, but can't I edit my own userpage? Well I'll delete it. Sony trademark vs dell trademark 19:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. But what you did was create a new article; not a user page. Your user page can be found by clicking your name at the very top of Wikipedia (right next to my talk). Also, please don't delete an AfD (article for deletion) tag from an article which you have authored. Leaving it there will let admins know to consider it for deletion. -- Levine2112 ^discuss 21:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh my gosh. I made a grievous error. I see that you were editing your User Page and not a new article. My humble apologies! -- Levine2112 ^discuss 21:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

That's ok anyone can make mistakes. You're forgiven. --Sony trademark vs dell trademark 02:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

My concern about your username

Hello, Sony trademark vs dell trademark, and welcome to Wikipedia.

I hope not to seem unfriendly or make you feel unwelcome, but I noticed your username, and am concerned that it might not meet Wikipedia's username policy. After you look over that policy, could we discuss that concern here?

it contains registered trademarks

I'd appreciate learning your own views, for instance your reasons for wanting this particular name, and what alternative username you might accept that avoids raising this concern.

You have several options freely available to you:

• If you can relieve my concern through discussing it here, I can stop worrying about it.
• If the two of us can't agree here, we can ask for help through Wikipedia's dispute resolution process, such as asking for a "third opinion", or requesting comments from other Wikipedians. Wikipedia administrators usually abide by agreements reached through this process.
• You can keep your contributions history under a new username. Visit Wikipedia:Changing username and follow the guidelines there.

Let me reassure you that my writing here means I don't think your username is grossly, blatantly, or obviously inappropriate; such names get reported straight to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism or blocked on sight. This is more a case where opinions might differ, and it would be good to reach some consensus — either here or at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User names. So I look forward to a friendly discussion, and to enjoying your continued participation on Wikipedia. Thank you again! --Valley2city^₪‽ 19:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the fact that I said that it was trademarked adequate? I didn't mean to infringe on copyrights, I just like those companies. Sony trademark vs dell trademark 19:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Still, I think that there may be concerns with such a username. I will open it up for comment and please contribute to the conversation. I feel like you chose your username in good faith and I just want to make sure it is acceptable for wikipedia. I will let you know once I have set up the page. --Valley2city^₪‽ 19:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok Sony trademark vs dell trademark 19:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Awesome. I set up the page which can be found here. The worst that would happen is that they will ask you to change it. Also it's great you are already fighting the good fight against vandalism. I fixed your tag on Our Pierrepont School (articles like that are candidates for Speedy Deletion and don't require a full discussion. If you have any questions, I would be glad to help. Keep up the great work. --Valley2city^₪‽ 20:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Sony trademark vs dell trademark 20:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

It's funny, there is currently a very interesting discussion going on regarding the very policy of trademarked names at the very bottom of Wikipedia talk:Username policy. Meanwhile, there is also mixed opinion regarding your username at WP:RFCN. You might want to contribute to the discussion and post your reasons for having your username there. --Valley2city^₪‽ 20:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

A "Scientific" inquiry, if I may

If I might ask, (and I'll refer to you as STVDT for short)... what was the intention/motive/etc., whatever you choose to refer to it as, for choosing that particular username? I've grown increasingly curious in understanding the desire/basis for usernames such as yours, and thought I'd dive right an and simply ask. Reply here, I'll watchlist your talk page. Thanks much. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 08:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Those are my two favorite company's and I wanted the freedom to choose a personalised account. --Sony trademark vs dell trademark 10:57, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Interesting. What are you considering for a rename? CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 17:32, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Kkrounii, I was trying Kkrouni but I forgot the password for that and I had to run to catch the bus. They wouldn't let us go to our lockers so I have to go back right now to get my textbooks be back later --Sony trademark vs dell trademark 19:23, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh in the car I remembered Kkrouni's password. But I just feel like I really don't wish to change my password unless the concensus vote tells me to or an admin says I have too. --Sony trademark vs dell trademark 20:35, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

On that note, I think the discussion has stalled because everyone thought you were going to choose a different username. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 20:41, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok well if I must I'm about to do that right now to keep the controversy to a minimum --Sony trademark vs dell trademark 20:46, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Rename

OK- I'll see what I can do for you... WjBscribe 21:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC) Thank you --Sony trademark vs dell trademark 21:40, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Right your request is now at WP:CHU/U. A crat should perform the request straight away when the see it. WjBscribe 21:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

There you go. Sorry about the inconvenience. It was sure to come up later and by then you might have really gotten attached and been established as your username. --Valley2city^₪‽ 05:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Userboxes

Could tell me how to straighten out my userboxes and keep them that way?--Kkrouni 22:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

See WP:USERBOXES. Real96 22:11, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you--Kkrouni 22:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

General testing

CAPTION GOES HERE This user's favourite subject is Chemistry. GER This user wishes he could speekGerman. laudō This usecan speek lightLatin. This user is in advancedMathematics. RE This user beleives in Religious Education. hs This user is a high school student. ESTThis user's time zone is EST. This user is male. This user is heterosexual. ru:Шаблон:Участник-гетеросексуал 0This user ranks a 0 on the Kinsey scale. This user is a masculist. CUT This user does not support the practice of male circumcision. This user believes a marriage should consist only of a man and a woman. This user supports and encourages the practice of safe sex. This userbox is so cool but this user is baptist. This user respects the beliefs and religions of others, even though they're completely wrong. This user prays. This user is a member of WikiProject Cats. This user is owned by one or more cats. This user wants to own one or more cats. File:Cats eye closeup.jpg This user is a caring cat owner. This user owns one or more Siamese cats. This user is a cat lover. This user thinks no outfit is complete without cat hair. This user's cats have their own userbox. This user plays the piano. This user enjoys classical music. This user enjoys Country Music. This user is against the Euro. GOP This user supports the U.S. Republican Party.

Don't know how to use this but it's cool and I saw it on a vandilised user talk page when I was clicking around it reminds me of that spiritualism picutre on my user page.

My new signature (PS I was looking around and credit for it goes to The Hybrid)--Kk rouni 22:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Will this work?--Kkrouni 22:53, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Yippee --Kkrouni 22:54, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Other signature --Kkrouni21:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

This last one won't work forgot to check raw signature --Kkrouni 21:39, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Why am I blocked?

I am not rocco's sock puppet I go to school in a small town and edit off of people's wifi connections but I am not a sock puppet what would lead you to think that?--Kkrouni 20:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Kkrouni (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

my reason is not showing up here please see below

Decline reason:

Per parallels to others in Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Cowboy Rocco. — Sandstein 21:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

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Apparently it is not showing up on your template but I pasted it here:

Why was I blocked in the first place? I know you admins don't care for my pleas, but I don't see what I did. Please unblock me, you can watch my edits, monitor me, please unblock me and if I seem suspicious I use someone's server (don't know who, please don't let me know if it's illegal) with the ip 70.186.217.199 I'll try to see if there's an open Ip but so far they are the only unprotected router and ask yourself did Kkrouni ever make a edit for the bad of Wikipedia? If you must, indefinately block account creation, because it dosen't matter I'm just a high school student not meaning to harm your system please I beg of you if it makes you feel better do what you think is right, but I have done you no wrong I don't even know my neighbors. --Kkrouni 20:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Did thier other sock's ever make pleas? I clicked on a few but I didn't see anything

--Kkrouni 20:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Here is the reason for the block per the block log: (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite (

). If you would like I can post a request to WP:AN requesting an admin check on this. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 20:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes that would be nice thank you. You are a truely kind person and I want to thank you for being kind to me from the day I came here--Kkrouni 20:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

No problem. You may view the request

here|here. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 20:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you--Kkrouni 21:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Kkrouni (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Please think about it, did I make one senceless edit to any article except one to my userpage after seeing all I had done had been for naught? Keep your eye on this acccount if you want, but please at least shorten the block. And did this user ever even know Cowboy Rocco? Without knowing it, mabey, but not directly. This ban is senceless. Please at least shorten it to a few days or weeks. I haven't done anything wrong, and I still won't. Am I a puppet? No. Am I a hacker? Well that depends I don't steal money (mabey internet access) or mess with credit records. Please consider this. At least consider this. The previous way I wrote this didn't make sence so I changed it.

Decline reason:

After a thorough review of your contributions and those of others in Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Cowboy Rocco I am convinced there are too many similarities and it is highly likely you are the same person. I realize it may be unsatisfying that I am not listing specific diffs, but WP:BEANS cautions against telling you things which may make it harder to identity any future attempts at sockpuppetry. If you are truly unrelated, email the blocking admin, Raul654 and request a checkuser on yourself. —dgies^t_c 21:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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:If I may make a statement here to the reviewing admin- IP addresses are notoriously inaccurate when determining identity. I have a wireless card available on my PC at home, and could connect to one of 50 different unprotected LANs in my apartment complex, and should someone be able to crack it, hack into mine. Unless someone has other evidence proving Kkrouni is actually the same person as Cowboy Rocco, I would suggest considering an unblock. Also, Kkrouni, I might also suggest finding a different connection to connect to. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 21:00, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Upon some review of the corresponding userpages, I believe that seeing Kkrouni as a sock might be a legit complaint. I will keep the reasons for this to myself. G'day. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 21:06, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

If I'm their sock, then why didn't I abuse the unblock template each time this page was reverted? I did once, because I was angry and they seemed to get on your nerves, but look, keep account creation blocked and watch my edits, will you see any vandalism if you unblock me? No, and if you don't, you won't see any vandilism comming from me. Also if I was a real sock wouldn't I have given up by now, and why wouldn't I try with Cowboy Rocco if that was my main account? Why try to save this sockpuppet (which is not really a sock) account and not any other one? Can you give reasons for that? --Kkrouni 21:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC) oops forgot to sign

Kkrouni, on one hand I'm inclined to believe you, on the other, I can understand where a connection may be made. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 21:20, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Please, do elaborate on what he or she and I have in common.--Kkrouni 21:23, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Could someone notify an admin? I posted my unblock template two days ago. Thank you for your time --Kkrouni 23:03, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Since you are a sock of Cowboy Rocco, and you have avoided blocks, the admins have came to a consensus to block this account indef. Real96 23:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I am not a sock puppet! I swear that this account is not a sock! This account is a legitimate main and only account for me. And explain what vandilism this account has done. Can you find any? No. Did I hide it? No I can't! Why are you so dead sure that I'm a sock puppet? What is your logic? Sure I steal his or her internet access, but why don't you watch every edit I make. Ban me on maltious edit #1 but please let me keep editing! What harm is there in me editing when I don't vandilize pages? If you can find one you have grounds to block me but at least give me a chance. Can you put me up for Arbitration at least? --Kkrouni 23:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Real96, could you put me up for Arbitration or at least show me where the admins (as in more than one) came to a concensus on my block?

First, arbitration deals with bans as well as blocks, but administrators deal with blocks. Please see your userpage on information on why you are blocked. Real96 00:09, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I was informed that I was blocked as a sock, but I'm not. That's why I asked for it to be reviewed--Kkrouni 00:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

And how are my contributions evedince? They are not like theirs at all--Kkrouni 00:15, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

1.) The sockpuppets use the same IP. 2.) For a new user, you know about Arbcom, how to paste images, etc. (which most users don't know about). . . etc. Real96 00:55, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

It's called the copy paste buttons on the toolbar up top the screen, and it's called time and I look all around here trying to find ways to be unbanned. And also how long has Rocco been here? He knows how to paste pictures, and so do most people. I also read the F&Q and the how to articles (in general or whatever it's called I forgot). Also me being nosy look all over and found Arbcom when reading everyone's talk pages--Kkrouni 01:03, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I've started a discussion over at , just so you know. -Amarkov moo! 05:04, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you--Kkrouni 13:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I got my signature from The Hyrbid's talk page, and did it not change yesterday?--Kkrouni 13:24, 29 April 2007 (UTC)Sig's too hard to see there--Kkrouni 13:26, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

When it says resolved, does it mean I'm blocked, or free?--Kkrouni 13:30, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I'm at home on Saturday's and Sundays, so I edit throughout the day, and a little later at night.--Kkrouni 13:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Tyding up my page, for everyone's ease, please post in the next section --Kkrouni 14:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Helpme

{{helpme}} could someone post that I got my signature from The Hybrid and that I'm off from school on Saturdays and Sundays on the link above for me? Thank you

I am removing your helpme request. Unfortunately, helpme is intended to help wikipedians on editing tasks, not to help with a block request. You should try to e-mail the blocking admin. -- lucasbfr ^talk 16:30, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Lucas, this user has requested unblocks already. I highly doubt that the blocking admin will even consider an unblock anytime soon. Funpika 16:33, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow your name is really close to my real one, not that it matters... Took me a while to notice this section though. Anyways does that mean that you won't tell that admin what I wrote? If it does please do.--Kkrouni 19:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I also emailed a request to be unblocked yesterday afternoon, and does that resolved message mean that he says I can't be unblocked? I'm pretty sure it does, but I can still have hope right?--Kkrouni 19:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Block continued

The last section was getting confusing, please for everyone's conveniance post down here--Kkrouni 14:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

The blocking admin has proved that you are a sockpuppet as he is also a Checkuser. I have seen little reason to prove you are not a sock other than you begging to be unblocked and claiming that you found your signature by looking at The Hybrid, which could potentially be a lie to cover up your reasons for using the signature in question. Perhaps I missed something though. Just wait until July 29, 2007 at 5:09 UTC when User:Cowboy Rocco is unblocked and you can start making useful contributions as him. Funpika 15:53, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

At the risk of releasing all information... the link under Cowboy Rocco's "My Quicklist Of Recomended Articles" is sort of a dead give away. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 15:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

That list is not a dead giveaway. Now while I agree with the Checkuser evidence, Cowboy Rocco could place any name there and hope that an administrator thinks that user is a sockpuppet. If he put "Funpika" there would I myself be indef blocked at the moment? Funpika 16:16, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Combining the fact that the two users listed have both been ID'd from the same IP address, having the list just makes it a dead give away that the two accounts ARE infact related, besides "sharing" an IP. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 16:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

You don't understand, I can't edit as Cowboy Rocco, because I'm not him! It turns out he's accually one of my friends that I've known since the third grade. You people probably wouldn't beleave me even if you saw us together at school, and Susan Walton is my girlfriend immitating our science teacher. And besides, why would I try to just save this one account if I was a sock? And why wouldn't I just change my IP and edit with socks if I was him? Because I can't. I know what you can do, to prove it, you can get Rocco and I to post at the same time, and have an edit conflict right? Well if there is one, can't you others tell? Then you would know I was telling the truth. If you have an idea or a flaw in my logic, tell me please, I'm not Rocco, I'm Kkrouni and I am my own person. PS there is one more sock named after our math teacher, Wanda Church just for your knowledge. He never edited with it, but we were IMing when he made it.--Kkrouni 17:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

And besides, wouldn't our User talkm and User pages look more alike? Wouldn't you think? And he knew about my account before I knew about his, not that that will probably help. Oh and on the note of my signature, do I bold my date?--Kkrouni 17:52, 29 April 2007 (UTC) PS I just went to Church, and I'm about to mow the lawn. I'll be back in a few hours, or mabey tomorrow--Kkrouni 17:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC) Wow no messages, and that only took me an hour! But does anyone think that that way will prove my innocence?--Kkrouni 18:59, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

No. I can do the same with two accounts, and two browsers. Doesn't prove anything. Like I stated before, part of me is inclined to believe you, however, certain evidence shows where admins would not want to block you. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 19:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

But you wouldn't have an edit conflict if you were editing in two seperate browsers, would you? After all wouldn't one get there first, and then when you save in the other window, it would save that new version wouldn't it?--Kkrouni 19:40, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Saving changes from one user in one browser, then a split second later saving the second would result in an edit conflict. Why? because (as the test on an ec goes) another user has made changes since (userX) began editing. That's what an edit conflict does, and besides, I don't believe there are any EC logs. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 19:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh well. It was worth a shot. This'll be hard to prove Rocco and I are different people. Also Cascadia, on your user and talk pages, do you mean your leaving Wikipedia entirely?! You have so hard, and you have so much behind you. I understand where you're comming from, but woah. Well your decisions are yours. I just hope I can find a way to keep editing.--Kkrouni 19:53, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately that is nearly impossible, a trusted administrator/checkuser/bureaucrat/oversight/arbitrator (an extremely high level of trust is needed for that) has already proved you are a sockpuppet. I don't see anyway that you can prove otherwise after that. By the looks of it you are going to have to spend the rest of your life not editing Wikipedia, sorry. Perhaps I should contact the blocking admin. Funpika 19:58, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I guess. I can think of nothing. If I can't edit Wikipedia, I want to thank you all for being kind to me.--Kkrouni 20:00, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay I will contact the blocking admin and see if he will consider at least shortening the indef block (temporary is better then forever). Even though I would probably risk indef block myself (bolded color signature and defending you would probably be suspicious). Funpika 20:04, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Hah! That's a good one. Thank you. Sorry for my slow response, I ate dinner early today.--Kkrouni 20:12, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Funpika, (you spelled my name with an H instead of a second K) for notifying Raul--Kkrouni 20:24, 29 April 2007 (UTC) P.S. out of curiosity what does Funpika mean?

My name is mainly in reference to Pikachu. Funpika 20:29, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

YES! I so knew that! Congradulations you're the only other person I know who likes Pokemon! And what do you think of the new season, can you beleave 4 Kids entertainment didn't renew their contract?! I don't think that Pokemon corporation America is doing as well a job on it. Some how each time they come on I miss about the first five epesodes of each new reigon! Can you beleive that? I've always wanted to see them, but I never do. Hope you've had better luck at that then me. (I hope those are the right names it's been a while since I saw what companies did what) --Kkrouni 20:32, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Normally I just play the Pokemon video games. But sometimes I watch the show. Also, there are many Pokemon fans at WP:PCP. Funpika 20:39, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I've got a lot of Pokemon video games too, and wow they have a Wikiproject Pokemon! I'll sign up first thing if I get unblocked.--Kkrouni 20:42, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

On a different subject, my talk page is getting awefully long, could an admin archive it for me? I would do it myself, but I don't know how. --Kkrouni 21:05, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

After all the controversy ends, and I'm unblocked. If I'm not unblocked you wouldn't need to archive this page.--Kkrouni 21:12, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Dgies, please think about it. Why what are the similarities (none), and why wouldn't Rocco be the account trying hard to get unblocked? Sure we're buddies, but please! Why does no-one beleive me?! And why haven't I had a tangent yet? Because I'm not that type of person. Why would I try so long towards one account? Why not some other sock? Heck why not all of them? Because their not mine and I don't know their passwords! WHY! I ask why you admins hate me so? I am innocent of everything I have done =NO-ONE ANY harm=!--Kkrouni 21:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

As I said in the unblock-decline: Email the blocking admin: Raul654 and request he confirm you are unrelated by a checkuser, which he has permission to perform. —dgies^t_c 22:13, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I did a few hours ago, but I'm using his internet as stated before.--Kkrouni 23:46, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Well I just renewed anything associated with my IP address, so check it now, and Rocco and I should be different.--Kkrouni 23:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

PS. My ISP provider said that it reset all files associated with my former IP. I'm not really sure what that means, but I have my own internet now.--Kkrouni 23:58, 29 April 2007 (UTC) This is so taxing on my effort. Please, can you please unblock me? I'm losing hope here, please just unblock me! I have done nothing wrong! Besides my IP we have NOTHING in common!--Kkrouni 00:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Come on, I don't see why I'm blocked please, please just ask yourself what did Kkrouni do wrong. PS I changed my signature.--Exhausted 00:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Kkrouni (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

please just consider one last time to unblock me please reconsider! I have done NOTHING wrong! Check every aspect of my Wikilife. You people don't know how hard this is. Please just look around and please give me a just verdict.

Decline reason:

Checkuser has determined that you are indeed a sockpuppet of Cowboy Rocco. Sean William 20:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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--Innocent 01:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be a good idea to make your sig match your name. Funpika 10:13, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, fine I'll change my signature. AND I MENT THAT FOR RAUL whatever those numbers were.--Kkrouni 21:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Just so you know this may decide if you are unblocked or prevented from even making unblock requests in the future except via the E-mail this user feature. Funpika 22:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Raul, I know Rocco in real life, he told me to go to the Hybrids talk page to get that signature. And did I not change that signature before all of this started? I am not Rocco. You are dead sure I am. Well Rocco admitted to those socks, and I don't. All of these "similarities" you see, please do tell. You won't because there are none. And in the future, how will I make them different WHEN I CAN'T CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT?!?!?!?!?! Please, think about it, why would I beg and pleade so hard, when Rocco has AOL and Cox? He can go on AOL and evade his block and we would never know it (but he only has 10hrs a month) he told me that he wouldn't make me a new account to use (not sockpuppetry, I WANT TO HELP! Wikipedia for it's good) because it would be evading a block. Don't you see? He has my username in his quicklist because he, like a friend checks in on my discussions. You think that I abuse your templates. Well I don't I use them reasonaly. And why, pre tell, are their so many good people out there like Funpika and Cascadia, that KNOW that we're different people? And are you going to block them for being kind? Can you tell me why you're so sure with ONLY check user, that we're the same people? Get this: his name and my name, THEY'RE DIFFERENT! We're different people. You talk about fairness, well have I done you ANY harm????? Please, why? I'm just a highschool student, (not to brag, but in advanced courses) why won't you beleive me? I'm begging you! Are you afraid to unblock me, because you'll find out that we were in fact two seperate people, and you're afraid to find out that you're wrong?????--Kkrouni 22:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean by "associate"? Like we mess with you together as vandals, or we just know each other--Kkrouni 22:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't care about getting account making privilages back, just editing, he deserves the block (not to be cruel) because he was ACCUALLY a sockpuppeteer.--Kkrouni 22:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

NOTE: This user's name is Kkrouni(like KKrouni not KHrouni KK rouni)

Thank you Funpika for notifying the admins about my help template.--Kkrouni 22:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC) This isn't going anywhere, I'm going to finish my math homework, read for a while and most likely go to bed, but I might check back in by 0:30UTC --Kkrouni 22:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

{{unblock}} abuse

Please note that further abuse of {{unblock}} will lead to this page being protected. John Reaves (talk) 00:59, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Unblocked

I have, against my better judgment, decided to unblock you and let you edit again. Do not make me regret my decision. Raul654 04:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Leaving Wikipedia

I haven't yet made my decision. I'm still weighing it. It's not a decision I want to make in a snap, but that is why I created that 'letter' page, is to express my frustration in a constructive manor. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 13:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Hope you stay, but with all of the random stress I can see why you'ld want to leave. Hope you change your mind, you're one of the really great people around here and I'd hate to see you leave.--Kkrouni 19:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I think I just need a punching bag to take a few swings at in lieu of (insert stressor here). CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 19:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Ha! I know what you mean--Kkrouni 19:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind thank you. I try to be an advocate as often as possible to users that show a need for assistance. Your case was somewhat unique, I could see where someone could come to the conclusion that you and Rocco were the same, but, instinct had reservations about this. I hope I don't sound out of line, but try to keep your nose clean for a while. The one thing I've learned here is never give someone a reason to block. It's hard to do sometimes, but it can be done. Local articles are a great thing to work on that don't attract much attention. Expand some articles about the area where you live. Feel free to ask me for any help any time you need it. In the mean time, I'm off to a MfD discussion that's getting old. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 20:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm going to stay low for a while (no main discussion page, only small amounts of help templates) they're probably still hungry for a reason to get rid of me.--Kkrouni 20:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Small bit of help please

I know I said I wouldn't ask you all for much help, but I've been wanting to know how to do a few things, like, how do you make a subpage (I think that's what you call them) and archive my talk page (after that incident, it's 64kb, and it's awefully messy)? You're help is appreciated. P.S. I am unbanned, and I've been wanting help with these things for a while.--Kkrouni 20:23, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

To create a subpage, simply add a link to it (like so: [[/newpage]], don't forget the /! You can also get auto archiving done for you (see my talk page or go to [1]. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 20:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

You are referring to Werdnabot I think. If you tell me how old you want discussions to be before getting archive Kkrouni, I will set it up for you. Funpika 20:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Could you put it there every 3 months, starting now, if you would? Thank you guys--Kkrouni 20:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it will do months. I had mine set originally to 7 days, now it's 4 or 3! CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 20:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Did what I do at the top work?--Kkrouni 20:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

It should. Everything's right from what I can see. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 20:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh guess I wrote it wrong (didn't have a clue) thank you guys alot. Thank you again. Also could you tell me how to make subpages, I'll do it myself if you could tell me how would.--Kkrouni 20:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

To make a subpage, you can do it 2 ways, make a link, or enter the url. To make a link, simply add [[/your new page]] to a page that you want to have a subpage made from (replace the text with the name of your page). Do do it by URL, simply add "/name of page" to the end of the web address of the page you want to make the subpage under. Then edit the page, once it's saved, it's created. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 20:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok thank you. Can you find it though? It's hidden.--Kkrouni 20:52, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I found it

I found your hidden page. :o MrMacMan ^Talk 20:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Who the heck are you? --Kkrouni 20:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Just another editor like yourself. I don't think we ever ran across eachother either, hehe. Ironic I suppose. MrMacMan ^Talk 20:56, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Why is it ironic? No I won't give out my address if it gets to that, but I'm paranoid in that way.--Kkrouni 20:57, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I'm no stalker or anything. MrMacMan ^Talk 21:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

And just wondering, how did you find my page?--Kkrouni 20:57, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Probably recent pages or the Orphan Pages log. CASCADIA^Howl/_Trail 21:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

What are Orphan pages?--Kkrouni 21:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I sometimes check Special:Recentchanges specifically the User or User talk sections. So I saw the page on its creation. and saw the edit summary statement which perked my interest... check the history section of the page to see what i'm talking about. MrMacMan ^Talk 21:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Why does it keep saying you have new messages when I have checked it a couple times, and I didn't click back and it's annoying me. I'm going to assume that it was this section, so would you mind if I delete it?--Kkrouni 21:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh for some reason it stoped never mind.--Kkrouni 21:08, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

And I found out what Orphan pages are.--Kkrouni 21:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)