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editI have removed the {{prod}} tag from Zagreb–Tovarnik railway, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, please to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion if you feel it should be deleted. Tomobe03 (talk) 23:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know, our colleague has also removed my {{prod}} tag from Belgrade–Šid railway. I don't want to delete those pages for the sake of deleting them, instead it was my intention to "reset" yesterday's undiscussed split of Zagreb–Belgrade railway (that's why I also reverted the changes there). Actually I had hoped that (according to WP:CONSPLIT) the proposed split would have been discussed before reverting once again, unfortunately it wasn't. I will put my issue to Talk:Zagreb–Belgrade railway. Kleeblatt187 (talk) 19:23, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hi! As promised, I set up the List of railways in Croatia. I also redlinked all railways listed there, even though some of them are arguably very short or otherwise less significant. It is always possible to leave some of those indefinitely redlinked, but there is potential to cover some of the smaller ones along with a major route (for instance in a separate section or just a passing mention) similar to the L203 which is now mentioned together with the M102 and its link can then be rerouted to the "parent" article. There is quite a few of potential candidates for that such as L213, L214, M602, M603, M605, M608 and so forth. Number of short routes in Zagreb railway node may also be organized in a single article and links pointed to specific sections (when those are in place). Of course, if any of those can be expanded into meaningful articles, it would be quite alright to branch them out (pun intended). I'll have to suspend the splitting up of the remaining articles for now and will revisit the issue later on today or tomorrow - specifically the Zagreb–Tovarnik railway if that's alright with you.--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:35, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your efforts and setting up the list! I'm fine with the consensus, which we reached for naming the Croatian railway lines. I'll try and continue to contribute to the articles itself if time permits. Hvala, Kleeblatt187 (talk) 18:46, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hi! As promised, I set up the List of railways in Croatia. I also redlinked all railways listed there, even though some of them are arguably very short or otherwise less significant. It is always possible to leave some of those indefinitely redlinked, but there is potential to cover some of the smaller ones along with a major route (for instance in a separate section or just a passing mention) similar to the L203 which is now mentioned together with the M102 and its link can then be rerouted to the "parent" article. There is quite a few of potential candidates for that such as L213, L214, M602, M603, M605, M608 and so forth. Number of short routes in Zagreb railway node may also be organized in a single article and links pointed to specific sections (when those are in place). Of course, if any of those can be expanded into meaningful articles, it would be quite alright to branch them out (pun intended). I'll have to suspend the splitting up of the remaining articles for now and will revisit the issue later on today or tomorrow - specifically the Zagreb–Tovarnik railway if that's alright with you.--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:35, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know, our colleague has also removed my {{prod}} tag from Belgrade–Šid railway. I don't want to delete those pages for the sake of deleting them, instead it was my intention to "reset" yesterday's undiscussed split of Zagreb–Belgrade railway (that's why I also reverted the changes there). Actually I had hoped that (according to WP:CONSPLIT) the proposed split would have been discussed before reverting once again, unfortunately it wasn't. I will put my issue to Talk:Zagreb–Belgrade railway. Kleeblatt187 (talk) 19:23, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for that; it proves you should always use Google translate rather than misread something that seemed obvious at the time. I only started "translating" these articles to learn some German (then in my 50s).--Grahame (talk) 13:45, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- Don't worry, that's why we work together at the wiki projects ... :-) Regards, --Kleeblatt187 (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Kleeblatt, I just wondered why you removed the district category from this article as "overcategorization". Saxon Switzerland is a geographical (and tourist) region, whereas Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge is the administrative district in which it lies. As far as I know they are not contiguous, and the article on Saxon Switzerland is not categorised in Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge either. Perhaps it should be? What do you think? --Bermicourt (talk) 07:52, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Bermicourt, I totally agree on your point about "Saxon Switzerland" (geographical region) and "Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge" (administrative dirstrict). Before I removed Amselgrund from Category:Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge it was and is even now categorized at Category:Rathen, Category:Saxon Switzerland and Category:Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge district geography stubs (by template), all three of them are as of now subcategories of Category:Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge. That's why it is clearly an overcategorization. Most likely we should truely add Saxon Switzerland to Category:Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge and remove Category:Saxon Switzerland from there as these are different category trees. Regards, --Kleeblatt187 (talk) 08:05, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Cool. I'm happy that Category:Saxon Switzerland is a sub-cat of Category:Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge; I'd be disappointed if it was deleted as I think there is value in having a category for the tourist/geographical region, especially for English speakers. --Bermicourt (talk) 08:23, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- I didn't want to delete Category:Saxon Switzerland, I was only thinking of removing it from Category:Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge for systematic reasons. Geographical and administrative categories are separate category trees for good reasons and most articles already are categorized in both category trees. Nevertheless we can probably leave there; as Saxon Switzerland is completely located within Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge district it is reasonable by common sense to keep Category:Saxon Switzerland as a subcategory of Category:Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge. --Kleeblatt187 (talk) 10:08, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Cool. I'm happy that Category:Saxon Switzerland is a sub-cat of Category:Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge; I'd be disappointed if it was deleted as I think there is value in having a category for the tourist/geographical region, especially for English speakers. --Bermicourt (talk) 08:23, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Kleeblatt, you're doing some really good work on Germany-related articles I don't want to detract from that. However, I've just reverted your move of Neuhausen/Erzgeb. because our convention deprecates the official German form of disambiguation using a "/". I think that's because the sources don't tend to use it and it appears a bit incomprehensible in English. Hope that helps. Gruess. --Bermicourt (talk) 21:31, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Bermicourt, thanks for the compliments! Nevertheless, the official full name of this Neuhausen is Neuhausen/Erzgeb., not Neuhausen (which indeed migth need disambiguation), please look at this and that link, the latter one being an official information of de:Landesdirektion Sachsen (official saxon directory of municipalities), the first one also something official. Official is offical, whether we like it or not. Also the Mittelsachsen district administration names the municipality Neuhausen/Erzgeb., please check here (unfold the list, upper right corner above the map) and here.
- Nevertheless, I don't think we should spend much time discussing about this. If you prefer Neuhausen, Saxony, leave it. But you may want to consider to move the category as well, in my opinion it should be in line with the article. Also interesting for me: both Purschenstein Castle and Cämmerswalde (maybe even more articles) refer in their first sentence always to Neuhausen/Erzgeb., the official form. --Kleeblatt187 (talk) 23:54, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- By the way, there is another Neuhausen in Saxony, it's a small place within the municipality of Waldheim, Saxony, see for example here. The latter one indeed is named only Neuhausen, which is ambigous and needs some clarification as soon as it gets an own article. Neuhausen/Erzgeb. is official and unambiguous. --Kleeblatt187 (talk) 05:42, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
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