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May 2018

Hello, I'm Serols. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to The Dubai Mall— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. Thanks. Serols (talk) 15:42, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Serols: Why did you revert my edits? I reverted 94.205.160.45's vandalism edit. KnowledgeChuck (talk) 15:45, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello KnowledgeChuck, see here and here. I wanted to do the same, but I was too late. I deleted the file, because this is the counter for Huggle. Regards --Serols (talk) 15:51, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Bbb23 (talk) 18:13, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

KnowledgeChuck (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

This is absurd, I put my time into this project and you block me for no reason. - I will not spend my time editing and helping when I get treated with this kind of manners by User:Bbb23. KnowledgeChuck (talk) 18:17, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Sorry, but with the additional issues and concerns that Bbb23 pointed me to when discussing this block with him below, I agree that there are unresolved concerns to where I cannot accept your request. I initially believed that this was just a situation of over-eagerness (I ran into this block update through a tool), and this was why I initially wanted to just talk and unblock. However, even though I'm not required to have his approval to unblock you, Bbb23 and I know one another well enough and I trust his judgment when he says "no". Oshwah

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Bbb23 - If KnowledgeChuck will allow me, I'd like to just talk to the user about this block and help him to understand the reasoning... if he's willing and he says that he understands and agrees to follow my input and advice, would you be against me unblocking this user and granting their request? This seems to me that the best way to resolve the entire issue is to just explain, make sure he understands, and move on... easy peasy. Let me know when you can. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:24, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Oshwah: (edit conflict) Where does the user say he "understands and agrees to follow my input and advice"? Surely his unblock request doesn't reflect any understanding of anything. I see the user as a disruptive new account who, bizarrely, keeps asking for special permissions at various places. I see the user as at best misleading in their representations and I don't believe their denial of other accounts on my Talk page. At this juncture, I would not agree to an unblock.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:31, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Bbb23 - And, oh... it sounds like I've missed some important dialogue you say? Talk page? Denial of sock puppetry? Looks like I'll be withdrawing this request after I read though this... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:36, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

I find this disappointing - Again I appreciate Oshawa and I would also like to see that route of ending, but again, I am therely dissapointed on Bbb23 and his opinions. I am yet to understand my block. KnowledgeChuck (talk) 18:40, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Oshwah:, {{ping|Bbb23]] Do you guys seriously think I have another account? I am so lost right now, first I get blocked and now accused of this. What is going on? --KnowledgeChuck (talk) 18:43, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

This is something you'll want to discuss further with Bbb23, as he has more in-depth involvement with this situation than I do. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:52, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Bbb23: Please can you explain what is the reason for my block, surley you don't have to block me for a full 48 hours, I don't even know why I am blocked, and if I have done an editing wrong-use, then I do apologize, but I don't recall of any wrongdoing. KnowledgeChuck (talk) 21:27, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

See my elaboration of your disruption ("repeatedly asking for special permissions despite inexperience and declines. Also forum shopping at various administrator Talk pages") in your block log. See also this discussion.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:34, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Bbb23: Oh, please understand I was unaware that this was not allowed, I just wanted to ask for a right or someone to take a look. - Please, dose this have to lead to a full 48hr block? I asure you that I will not do such again, but you could have just told me that this was not allowed, and I would have stopped. - Do you have to block me? --KnowledgeChuck (talk) 21:38, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

You had notice of your disruptive activity on my Talk page. You just didn't want to listen because it interfered with your agenda. The permissions pages tell you what the minimums are for obtaining those rights. All you have to do is read them, but not only do you ignore them, rather than wait for a response, you hop off to Talk pages of admins (I have no idea how you pick them, either) to push for an earlier response. Apologies are hollow if it appears you have no insight into your misconduct.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:51, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Bbb23: I do now fully understand, thus apologize. - But please do understand I am here soley to do good, will you look past this thus leting me countinue edit now. I hope so. I am only here to do good. --KnowledgeChuck (talk) 21:54, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Bbb23: - May you unblock me please? KnowledgeChuck (talk) 22:16, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

In your own words, please explain to me what you "fully understand".--Bbb23 (talk) 22:23, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Bbb23: - I understand that - 1. I requested permission for a right, without reading the req. for it, I 2. several times went to 2 or 3 different admins and asked for a right to be given to me as I was not patient and did not wait for an answer on the requesting page. - This I apologize for, but think and hope it should not be an epilog of a block, rather a notice and caution warning. - Opinion aside, I am again sorry for any disruptiveness, and I humbly ask for an unblock. KnowledgeChuck (talk) 22:28, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Bbb23: - May you unblock me now please? KnowledgeChuck (talk) 22:46, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm going to give you some advice/warnings for the future. First, don't ask for any special permissions for quite some time. You're too new. Also, it looks like you're trying to acquire merit badges to make you appear more experienced than you are. Second, listen to more experienced editors when they talk to you. They are usually trying to help you, and they know a lot more about Wikipedia policies and guidelines than you do. Third, slow down. You're trying to move to quickly for a new user. Study and learn more and edit less. If you're at all uncertain whether what you want to do is appropriate, ask someone first. Finally, I and possibly others will be monitoring your activity, at least for the time being, to ensure that you keep your promises and that you heed my warnings. If you don't, you risk being blocked - and the next block would be much longer up to indefinite. This is not intended to be "mean", just making sure there's no misunderstanding later. Based on your and my comments, I will unblock you. Best of luck.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:10, 5 May 2018 (UTC)