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Hi, thanks four your message! I added those categories because they all were born in Germany and spent pretty much their entire childhood and lifes here. So I thought being “Turkish with German descent” is the best of describing this. But not sure if it’s right. If not, it can obviously be excluded. Greetings —Koelnfan (talk) 14:21, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

The same issue is observed in Kingsley Ehizibue. I reverted your vandalism again, you hab been given at least two hints [1][2] that cannot be misunderstood. Note: suspected Cross-wiki vandalism, user frequently vandalises in this manner in German WP as well. --Roger (talk) 20:35, 1 November 2020 (UTC) - Further note: User has added wrong categories in even more articles in enWP in the past. --Roger (talk) 20:50, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Don’t call my work vandalism because you’re the one who is practicing vandalism the whole time!

In fact, Kingsley was born (!) in Germany and raised in the Netherlands (!)! So he basically has NOTHING to do with Nigeria in the first place which makes him somehow “of German and Dutch descent”! Sounds weird but is reality! I give you a personal clue: Discuss objectively and listen to other people instead of destroying other peoples work and motivation! That’s what you’re doing!—Koelnfan (talk) 22:27, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

"Vandalism"

Hi Koelnfan,

thank you very much for the report at WP:AIV.

I'm concerned about the liberal usage of the word "vandalism" to describe the behavior of a disagreeing user. Vandalism is intentional, malicious disruption. Even if someone's reverts are disruptive and/or edit warring, the term "vandalism" is unlikely to be appropriate. The disagreeing user tries to improve the encyclopedia too, and personal attacks make it hard to find a consensus.

The report has been removed for now; see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution for advice and create a report at the edit warring noticeboard if really necessary. As it requires multiple people to edit war, please consider discussing instead of reverting again. The essay WP:DISCFAIL might be useful.

Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:12, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

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Stop.

Mal auf deutsch und gleich auch auf deWP, damit du es verstehst: Du wirst es ab sofort und in Zukunft unterlassen, jegliche meiner Edits in irgendeiner WP zu revertieren und Editwars zu führen. Außerdem setzt du keine falschen oder strittigen Kategorien zu ethnischer "Herkunft" oder ähnliches ein, ohne dies auf der jeweiligen Diskussionsseite des Artikels thematisiert zu haben. Bitte bestätige her kurz, dass du das gelesen und(!) verstanden hast! Danke, --Roger (talk) 19:54, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

...und mach dich endlich mit dem Kategoriesystem vertraut, hier und in deWP! --Roger (talk) 20:10, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Tut mir Leid, da kommen wir nicht auf einen Nenner. Bei allen meinen Bearbeitungen ist im Artikel die Rede von der Herkunft. Lies z.B. den Artikel von Daniel Caligiuri oder Roman Neustädter mal aufmerksam durch. Grundsätzlich könnte ich, wie ich schon mehrfach geschrieben habe, all das was du mir vorwirfst auch dir vorwerfen. Aber ich lasse es, vor allem da WP sowieso keine Rolle mehr in meiner Wahrnehmung spielt.—Koelnfan (talk) 20:31, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Ich rate erneut dringend, dich mit den Kategoriesystemen der WPs, in denen du Editwars führst, vertraut zu machen. Bis dahin schlage ich vor, dass du dich tatsächlich aus den WPs raushältst. --Roger (talk) 18:36, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Willst du mich eigentlich verarschen? Ich habe den Satz extra in die Zusammenfassung eingefügt. Warum z.B. ist beim italienische Fußballer Simone Perotta die Angabe „English people of Italian descent“ drinnen? Tu mir und dir außerdem bitte den Gefallen und lass diese Unterstellungen. Letztlich führst du auf die selbe Art & Weise Editwars, wenn man deiner Logik folgt.—Koelnfan (talk) 19:16, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Nochmal: Beachte Wikipedia:WAR und mach dich mit dem Kategoriesystem vertraut! --Roger (talk) 17:10, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Nochmal: Argumentiere doch mal bei den konkreten Beispielen, warum die von mir eingefügten Kategorien nicht passen! Und nochmal: Meldest du mich wegen eines EW‘s, so melde ich dich! Ich denke wir verstehen uns—Koelnfan (talk) 17:58, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Das diskutierst du auf der Diskussionsseite des Artikels und führst keine Editwars. --Roger (talk) 20:24, 22 September 2021 (UTC) ...Hier wurde deine falsche Category begründet revertiert, danach hast du nichts mehr zu revertieren. Weiteres passiert auf der Artikeldisk. --Roger (talk) 20:28, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Das gilt auch hierfür und weiterhin. Roger (talk) 16:31, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Immer noch. Sinnfreie Reverts unterlässt du und sprichst im Zweifel dein Problem auf der Diskussionsseite an. --Roger (talk) 13:09, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Aber wieso muss ich dabei immer den kürzeren ziehen und mich unterordnen, wenn ich FÜR etwas argumentiere? Ist ja ne furchtbare Diskussionskultur hier…—-Koelnfan (talk) 06:41, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Dann argumentier jetzt bitte auch aktiv mit! —Koelnfan (talk) 14:56, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Nochmal zurück zum zweiten Satz in diesem Abschnitt: Erkläre bitte nachvollziehbar diesen Revert, mit dem du zum wiederholten Mal (auch in deWP, s. deine Diskussionsseite dort) einen Fehler mit voller Absicht wieder einbaust - am besten gleich auch so, dass lokale Admins und globale Admins das neben deinen zahlreichen EWs um falsch gesetzte Kategorien entsprechend bewerten können. --Roger (talk) 08:54, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Es war kein Fehler. Mit dir diskutiere ich auch nicht mehr, da du nie auf meine Argumente eingehst bzw. dich an Diskussionen beteiligst. Wie ich an deiner Disk.- und Startseite sehe scheinst du hier auch nicht allzu viele Freunde zu haben. Ach ja, und meldest du mich, melde ich dich wegen deiner EWs. So wie sonst auch. Viel Spaß noch.—Koelnfan (talk) 09:08, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

??? Du hast einen Fehler wieder eingebaut. Zu diskutieren gab und gibt es nichts, deine Ablenkungstiraden sind sinnfrei. Offenkundig bist du weder in der Lage noch willens zur Mitarbeit. --Roger (talk) 10:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

???? Du revertierst ständig meine Bearbeitungen ohne dies zu begründen. Argumentiert hast innerhalb der letzten Monate zu keinem Zeitpunkt und kannst nur anderen Leuten Vorwürfe machen. In Gänze abwegig sind meine „Ablenkungstiraden“ also scheinbar nicht und wie ich schon häufiger gesagt habe, liegt meine Motivation für Wikipedia dank Leuten wie dir nahezu bei null. Im Zuge des russischen Krieges gegen die Ukraine bin ich mit kleinen Änderungen wieder aktiver geworden, aber das werd ich auch wieder runterfahren.—Koelnfan (talk) 11:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

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Re: Russian nationalists

Because attending a patriotic event doesn't mean you are a "nationalist". In Russia there are hundreds of nationalities, and those people are not always Russians. Until you don't provide a reliable source that confirms they are really nationalists, your edits are blatantly false.--User:Tomcat7 (talk) 14:21, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Stop adding fake and controversial categories. How is Sergey Sobyanin a nationalist, if he is a Mansi? That doesn't really makse sense. What you do is adding fake claims, i.e. vandalising articles.--User:Tomcat7 (talk) 14:28, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Wow, what an argumentation. It is not just a “patriotic event”; it is a propaganda-show that actively justifies and even promotes an ONGOING WAR using argumentation on an almost conspiratorial (Ukraine run by drug-addicted Nazis or American puppets etc.) level. WAR! In Europe! In 2022!

I do not know if you are not aware of this consequence, but the last time “patriotic events” like this one took place in Europe when guys like Adolf Hitler were still in power. Mentioning Sergey Sobyanin for being Mansi and therefore not being able to be a nationalist is not an argument. You could even be a Russian of American descent and still support the war-crimes committed at innocent Ukrainian civilians which would definitely make you some kind of nationalist.

Because I still wait for your arguments, I‘m asking again: What else does it need to be called a „nationalist“, if participating in SUCH an event is not enough?—Koelnfan (talk) 15:48, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Edit: Oxford says this about a nationalist:”a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.”(Source: oxfordify.com) Now tell me, how does this not fit for the people we are talking about?—Koelnfan (talk) 15:56, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

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Hello Koelnfan, my name is Modussiccandi and I'm an administrator on the English-language Wikipedia. I noticed that you've encountered some resistance to categories you've added to articles. May I remind you that categories on this version of Wikipedia are subject to the same verifiability criteria as the content of articles (per WP:CATVER)? This means that our decision to add pages to categories must be based on verifiable information present in the article. To give you one example: you added Salih Özcan to the 'Turkish expatriate sportspeople in Germany' category. However, the article says that Özcan was born in Germany (an easily verifiable fact), suggesting that this is his home country. In general, it is always best to tread cautiously around biographies of living persons. My recommendation would be to only add categories to such pages if there is consensus among editors to do so and, as I said, the information is verifiable. Thank you and happy editing, Modussiccandi (talk) 19:19, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

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