Krancton21

Dereham Town

Hello. Thanks for your recent edits to Dereham Town F.C., but they constitute WP:RECENTISM as it does not provide balanced coverage of the club's history.

Please also note MOS:DATE, which sets out how dates should be written on Wikipedia. Number 57 17:49, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello again. The issue is not that the information is incorrect. The problems are:

1. It focuses only on recent events and leaves the history section of the article unbalanced towards events that are not particularly notable in the complete history of the club.
2. It's inappropriately written, using words like "painstakingly"
3. The date and season format is wrong
4. It duplicates information in the paragraph above
5. The rivals section is simply inappropriate and entirely unsourced.

This sort of content might be appropriate for a club or fan website, but is not suitable for Wikipedia. When an edit of yours is removed by another editor, you are expected to seek consensus/agreement for it to be instated in line with the WP:Bold, revert, discuss cycle. Repeatedly reverting your material back into the article is highly inappropriate and likely to lead to your account being blocked.

Please undo your recent edit. Thanks, Number 57 21:26, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the response and the revert. In response to your questions:

1. In the first instance, events such as cup wins, league titles and promotions/relegation would be notable. Finishing seventh in the league is not anything out of the ordinary and is something the club has bettered on numerous occasions. Cup final losses could be added, but would need to be consistently listed throughout the club's history, not just a recent example. Similarly, managerial changes should only be included in a history section if they can be detailed consistently throughout the club's history, not just ones that happened in the last few years.
2. Dates should be written as "1 January 2009" not "1st of January 2009". Also, seasons should be written using the long dash – not a hyphen (so 2018–19 not 2018-19)
3. The rivals section is inappropriate as there is no actual evidence of rivalry beyond geographic proximity. The A.F.C. Sudbury article (my team) is classed as a "Good article" without needing a section on the rivalry with Bury Town.
4. I removed the season table as it was again an issue of recentism, as you'd only covered the last few seasons. You are welcome to create a table showing all the club's seasons - useful sources include here for the Norfolk & Suffolk League era, here for the Anglian Combination and here for the Eastern Counties League era.
5. If edits are agreed upon, either party can add them to the page.

Hope that helps. Cheers, Number 57 22:44, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

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