Kuauli

Re: Genealogy Mysteries

It's not that clear cut as one may think. That section of my page isn't meant to be answered. It is just some contested genealogy that nobody truly knows for sure.

Queen Emma did claim descent from Keliʻimaikaʻi, as evidence by the writings of Samuel Kamakau and the fierce oppositional writings in Liliuokalani's biography. Kaʻōanaʻeha was said to be the only person allowed to seem Keliʻimaikaʻi on his deathbed. The theory of her being the daughter of Kalaipaihala has been brought up to. Lunalilo succeeded because of his popularity and his legitimacy derived from his close relation to Kamehameha and Kaahumanu's sister Kaheiheimālie.

There is an entire essay by John F. G. Stokes that argues that the paternity of Pauli Kaʻōleiokū including the fact that Laura Konia, in her lifetime, vaguely rebuked a foreigner who connected a family to a "royal person" (some considering the royal person was Kamehameha I and the family her own family).

The same goes for Kamehameha I.

I think it just save to assume these people as keiki poolua. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 11:51, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Translation

Could you translate these two passages? Mahalo.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 11:49, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

O Samuel Kipi kekahi kanaka a‘u e imi ana i kēia manawa. Ua kapa ‘ia aku i ka puke ‘o Dismembering Lāhui ,‘o S. Kipi ka luna maka‘āinana wale nō, akā, he kia‘āina nō ho‘i ‘o ia no Waimea, Hawai‘i a he kanaka na‘auao nō. Hala ihola ‘o ia i ka makahiki 1879 ua kanalima kūmākolu makahiki ona.

Aloha ʻoe,

Ke hōʻike aku nei au iāʻoe, ua pau kā Geo. L. Kapeau noho ʻana ma ka ʻoihana kiaʻāina o Hawaiʻi, a ua hoʻolilo ʻia ka mea Hanohano R. Keʻelikōlani i kiaʻāina nō Hawaiʻi nei. A ʻo Hilo nei nō kona wahi i koho (choose/vote) ai e noho, e hana aku i nā hana apau e pili ana i kāna ʻoihana kiaʻāina.
Nō laila, ke kauoha aku nei au iāʻoe, e hoʻoūna koke (quickly) mai i kou palapala hōʻike (report) hapahā (quarterly), lāua pū me nā dālā apau i loaʻa iāʻoe ma kāʻu ʻoihana luna kānāwai (judge). Mai kali ʻoe o hihia auaneʻi (or there will be law suits).
ʻO wau nō me ka mahalo iāʻoe.
L. L Austin

Hope Kiaʻāina o Hawaiʻi

Deborah Kapule

I moved Deborah Kapule's article back into your userspace because I believe it can get a DYK nomination if it was sourced more properly like Kānekapōlei. I will look into it when I have time.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:48, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I deleted the page in the article space since it's now in your userspace (there wasn't anything left in the article space but a redirect), so now you can move the article back into the article space any time you want. Let me know by leaving me a message on my talk page if you need any help or anything. Peace, delldot ∇. 05:04, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Kamehameha

You are mentioning a lot of names of wives and children of Kamehameha I that I can't find source for other than obscure genealogy sites. Are you positive these people you added are real? Could you cite sources for them or else they have to be removed? Also Alexander Stewart could not been the child of Manono as she was one of his last wives and he would been too old to be her son. As for the burial addition about Kalakaua's discovery and the whereabouts of his bones, could you cite that too?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 16:36, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

You should cite page numbers too, please. My main concern is your additions to the genealogy, please cite them all with pages and I will take a look at the sources. I found sources for Nahoa but everyone else I cannot. I doubt Keawenui because saying he had a child with Queen Emma is not only chronologically unlikely but it implies that Queen Emma was faithfulness as a widow, which even George Kanahele's biography of her did not question. Nor did any of Kamehameha I's children with Keopuolani survived childhood except Liholiho, Kauikeaouli and Nahienaena. Also Kalanikauiokikilo was the daughter of Kamehamehanui Ailuau and Kalola Pupuka-o-Honokawailani not Kamehameha I, and Kalaniulumoku was also a son of Kamehamehanui Ailuau.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:31, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Niihau

Aloha. I removed your contribution to Niihau as it lacked explicit sources.[1] If you want to try again, I'll move a copy to Talk:Niihau#Name where you can see a copy of it. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 20:50, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Hanuna

What source did you use that said Pauli Kaōleiokū had a child named Hanuna?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:33, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Also can please cite page numbers on your sources or I can allow them until I can verify them in that book.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:37, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

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