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June 2024

  Please don't change the citation style in articles as you did at List of Starlink and Starshield launches. It is a general rule, that if an article has evolved using predominantly one format, the citations should be left in the format they were originally written in. Please see WP:CITEVAR - Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style, merely on the grounds of personal preference or to make it match other articles, without first seeking consensus for the change. If the article you are editing is already using a particular citation style, you should follow it; if you believe it is inappropriate for the needs of the article, seek consensus for a change on the talk page.

Don't be surprised if someone reverts your changes since you didn't first seek consensus. And you also need to fix these cite errors you created, seen here and here. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 21:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

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September 2024

Hello KyloRen2017

As Isaidnoway requested back in June, please stop changing the citation style in articles without seeking consensus. Please read WP:CITEVAR carefully, especially this sentence from the To be avoided section: changing where the references are defined, e.g., moving reference definitions in the reflist to the prose, or moving reference definitions from the prose into the reflist.

Have you considered trying to improve the citations instead, by for instance checking for dead links, fact checking, or similar?

--askeuhd (talk) 20:47, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

@KyloRen2017 - you keep doing this. Please stop doing this without consensus, as is stated on WP:CITEVAR. You are creating a lot of needless extra work for your fellow editors. askeuhd (talk) 20:09, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

I am primarily cleaning up the in-line ref junk into one reflist block in accordance to WP:ILCLUTTER. This will make the articles and the citations more readable upon editing (and by extension, avoid duplicate references being cited), as in-line references are too much of a hassle to work with, especially whenever finding some typographical errors or correcting misinformation in paragraphs for example KyloRen2017 (talk) 01:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Also may I ask what was the "needless work" you're talking about? KyloRen2017 (talk) 01:41, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

WP:ILCLUTTER says As with other citation formats, articles should not undergo large-scale conversion between formats without consensus to do so You need to get consensus on an article's talk page before changing its established method of citation. Schazjmd (talk) 14:51, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Let me start by apologizing for my earlier remark. It was an unfortunate response stemming from a misperception of being ignored, and I’m glad to find that this was not the case.

I used to hold a similar view to yours regarding list-defined references. However, over time, I have reconsidered this approach for several reasons:

• One significant point against list-defined references is noted in WP:ILCLUTTER: Note, however, that references defined in the reference list template can no longer be edited with the VisualEditor.
• Additionally, I've noticed that even articles that initially implement well-organized list-defined references tend to regress to inline references, likely due to their prevalence, and probably because many editors focus on specific sections of articles, whether in source mode or on mobile, which makes working with list-defined references more challenging. Unfortunately, this shift can lead to duplicated citations and other related errors.

I believe WP:ILCLUTTER serves more as a guideline when determining citation styles for articles without an established style, rather than as a reason to change an already established format. Others have pointed this out as well.

Lastly, I’d like to suggest that if you intend to change the citation style of an article in the future (after reaching consensus on the article’s talk page), it would be helpful to avoid publishing the article in multiple stages before finalizing your changes. Using the preview function ensures the article is complete before submission, preventing it from being flagged for mistakes or clean-up, as happened in this case. This can save fellow editors unnecessary work, as they may assume that any published edit is final.

I’d also like to kindly request that you avoid changing citation template parameters unnecessarily, such as replacing |last= and |first= with |author=. While it might seem like a simplification, this change actually degrades the quality of metadata.

Thank you for your understanding.

--askeuhd (talk) 19:46, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

@KyloRen2017: - I am afraid you did it again. Would you kindly cease changing the citation style without consensus? askeuhd (talk) 17:23, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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