Lafayette1780

April 2014

Hello, I'm Excirial. I wanted to let you know that I removed an external link you added to the page French frigate Hermione (1779) because it seemed inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thanks. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 18:50, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Hermione external link

Dear Sir or Madam, I think, with all respect, your removal of the hermione2015.com external link is not fair. I say this only as there is an external link to the French group in wikipedia. It is hermione.com.

So I feel this is a double standard.

I look forward to your reply.

Pls appreciate I do not pretend to be a wiki expert, I simply wanted to update this entry with the fact the frigate is returning to the US in 2015 and there's a group and website that supports this effort, and it is NOT commercial (or a commercial). It is a non-profit 501 c 3 registered, etc.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lafayette1780 (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia itself is freely editable by anyone, so in effect anyone can add a link to any page that will remain unless someone decides to remove the link. The mere fact that a something exists somewhere on Wikipedia is not an argument that the link itself should exist. Nor is it an argument that any more links of the same type should be added. Or to use a metaphor: If i throw my laundry on the floor next to the laundry basket, should that be an argument for everyone to ditch their laundry there?

That all said i'd say that the creation of the replica itself is definitely worthy of being included in the article itself - the same happened at the article detailing the Batavia, which was also replicated. However being an encyclopedia the purpose of that section cannot be the promotion of the charity or the website itself - instead it has to be neutral in tone. Just compare the text on that article to the one that was added to the Hermione article: It adds a three liner about the society who build it along with the text "to learn more, please visit: (Our website)" which is pretty much as promotional as it gets. The fact that the website belong to a charity is not directly relevant as far as promotion is concerned - anything can be promoted.

One more note that i would add is that the replica has its own article which is located here: French frigate Hermione (2012). Since there is a specific page for the replica the page detailing the 1779 Frigate should only a fairly brief regarding the new ship along with a link to that page. A long treatise detailing the replica would nudge the 1779 article off-subject (Which is the historical copy) while at the same time causing duplicate information (Both the 1779 and the 2012 page would talk about the same subject which would be redundant). Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 19:44, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

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