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Draft:Gerencia 360 Comment

My apologies, in that I have been working on clearing AfCs over the last year. When the draft is in a foreign language I often use one of the maintenance tag tools, which if I neglect to click one of the fields automatically posts it onto the list of pages needing translation into English. Whilst it is not intentional it is really no excuse for not being vigilant. I understand that there is a fair backlog of articles on the translation list, similar to the immense backlog of AfC, and I therefore do not mean to add to your and other editors work. I will try harder to being more careful when using the automated maintenance tools in future. Thanks for your understanding. Dan arndt (talk) 06:48, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

email addres and contact inforamation

Please send your personal email addres and contact inforamation to contact to you personally. > With regards > > "Jermuk Group" CJSC > 77/3 Arshakunyats ave. > 0007, Yerevan, Republic of Armenia > T +374 11 58 98 36 > M +374 93 95 12 57 > info@jermukgroup.am > jg@jermukgroup.am > www.jermukgroup.am — Preceding unsigned comment added by JermukGroup (talk • contribs) 11:07, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

@JermukGroup: If you have something to discuss, you may discuss it here on Wikipedia. You aren't permitted to remove documented information solely because you don't like it. You may claim the FDA was "wrong" but it isn't wrong to say that the FDA issued those findings, as the article does. It's correct information. You may discuss the appropriateness of the inclusion of this factual information on the article's Talk page to see if you can get a consensus for removal on the grounds of one of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines like WP:UNDUE. You shouldn't edit articles over which you have a conflict of interest. Largoplazo (talk) 12:41, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Removed from Company which is the exclusive holder of “Jermuk” Trademark. And using our trademark without our permission is rude violation of the Company’s rights

Dear sir/madam, With this letter we want to inform you about the following: My name is Maria Sahakyan and I am head of legal department in Jermuk Group CJSC (hereinafter Company). I am writing to clarify the issue concerning mentioned link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jermuk_%28water%29&diff=preIn Wikipedia. Firstly I have to note that you have no right to spread fake and unreliable information about the Company and our production. The information written by you is completely false and does not correspond to reality. If you need information about the Company and our production you can write letter and sent it by above mentioned email: info@jermukgroup.am, The Company will examine your request and give you full information about the Company and our production. Secondly, the Company is the exclusive holder of “Jermuk” Trademark and using our trademark without our permission is rude violation of the Company’s rights. Moreover, we think that you have intention just to spread information about the Company and Company’s production but do not spread false information which can cause damages to the good reputation of the company.

With best regards, Maria Sahakyan Head of legal department "Jermuk Group" CJSC 77/3 Arshakunyats ave. 0007, Yerevan, Republic of Armenia Tel: +374 11 589836 maria.sahakyan@jermukgroup.am www.jermukgroup.am — Preceding unsigned comment added by JermukGroup (talk • contribs) 11:01, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

@JermukGroup: Notes:

1. I can't take you seriously when you tell me it's false that reports I can look at myself exist, which is what the article says.
2. As a lawyer, you must have a firm understanding of and appreciation for procedure. Yet you have ignored what I explained above about Wikipedia's procedures and have continued to violate them, which I see has now led to your being blocked.
3. You haven't gotten as far as threatening legal action, in my estimation, but, before you threaten me or anyone else here (because I suspect that's where you're headed), you should read Wikipedia:No legal threats.

Largoplazo (talk) 11:30, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Largoplazo, thank you so much for your review on the page Strict rules, hard efforts created by me. I have noticed that you tagged notability concerns on the page. So I furthur edited the article and I'm inviting you to remove that tag if you believe it now meets the requirement. 1)There're three reference web pages from secondary sources; 2)there was a television program focusing on this motto. I do believe the motto is significant enough to have its own wikipedia page, please offer your advice to me. Thank you again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike hangzhou (talk • contribs) 12:03, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Publishing the Thames British School Warsaw Article

Hello Largoplazo!

The reason I'm getting in touch with you is really just to make a very kind request...

I noticed that you had recently edited the International American School of Warsaw article and was just wondering if you could help to publish the article on Thames British School Warsaw. I'd greatly appreciate any help you can offer.

Also, I noticed on your profile page that you have some good advice for editing business profile. ;)

All the best,

Praevalebit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Praevalebit (talk • contribs) 16:23, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

London Fog tea

Sorry, I don't follow what you're saying here. If a source only says that the drink is "said to have originated in Vancouver", surely it is wrong for Wikipedia to pump that up to the more definite "is a hot beverage originating from Vancouver"?

My other edits there were just to match the source, which does not mention Lady Grey, and which explicitly lists "vanilla syrup" as a compulsory part of the recipe (rather than saying that "vanilla flavouring" is optional). I don't understand why you've reverted that. --Lord Belbury (talk) 12:29, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Lord Belbury: I'm sorry, I had some kind of lapse and somehow attributed to you the commentary on the drink being reminiscent of a latte, which is what I was commenting on. I've just reverted my reversion. So now I still think the reminiscent part should go away and be replaced by a clearer explanation of what the drink is, but that has nothing to do with you! Sorry again. Largoplazo (talk) 14:48, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for clarifying. Agree that "reminiscent" doesn't help much, I've now reworded it to be more literal. --Lord Belbury (talk) 15:21, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

List: Notable events and concerts in Freedom Hall listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect List: Notable events and concerts in Freedom Hall. Since you had some involvement with the List: Notable events and concerts in Freedom Hall redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:47, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17

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News

• The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the {{rough translation}} tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.

Discussions of interest

• Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
• {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
• A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
• There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.

Reminders

• NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.

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I have unreviewed a page you curated

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G4

This is ridiculous. This article is literally identical up to the last period and comma to the deleted article. Please tell me where it is stated that after a couple of years G4 doesn't apply any more, because this is the first time I hear about this. --Randykitty (talk) 21:31, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

@Randykitty: You've completely, utterly missed the point that I spelled out for you in details, that being identical to the previous article is only one factor in the applicability of G4. Please read more than the first sentence of that criterion. Largoplazo (talk) 22:25, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

I did and there is nothing there that says that this is not a vali G4. Also note that the article creator just claimed on my talk page that they did not copy this article from somewhere else. Yeah, right, that results in an identical article. But lets waste the community's time at an unnecessary AfD, why not. Anyway, it has been deleted as G4 despite all this. --Randykitty (talk) 07:07, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18

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WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

• Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
• Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

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News

• Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.

Discussions of interest

• A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
• There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
• What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like

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Logawinner

I don't know what to do about this editor. I've reverted him twice just now. He's planning to make User:Logawinner/sandbox live soon. Doug Weller talk 15:21, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

This user is perplexing, I can see that, though at least earnest. I've just removed the blatant copyright violation (the entire chapter from the New King James Version) from that draft and tagged it for revision deletion, while warning the user. Largoplazo (talk) 17:01, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

I've been work with John Thorne On that, plus I just moved it from above Where I didn't put it in I had my own words in it go look at the history. I actually find this quite amusing though. Logawinner (talk) 17:36, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this is where a lot of you havoc comes from easily avoidable things and in Christian to try to avoid those instead of being lazy. So I suggest you go to church. Logawinner (talk) 17:40, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

And I would love if we had 2 more editors helping to add citations to the article because you are obviously able with what you are doing. Please consider what I just said. Logawinner (talk) 17:42, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Lol John Thorne Logawinner (talk) 17:44, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

I've explained to him it's still his edit even if he copied it from another article, and if he did that without attribution it's another copyright violation. There definitely seems to be a confidence issue. @JohnThorne:, I think he's trying to ping you. Doug Weller talk 17:57, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

@Logawinner: Please follow the the guidelines for editing in Wikipedia. For the time being, let's edit together in the Sandbox only, until the article is properly edited and sourced. We should maintain proper etiquette while interacting with other users. Peace. JohnThorne (talk) 18:06, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

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WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

QUALITY of REVIEWING

Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.

Backlog

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kash Hovey

Okay well the article was recreated and I figured someone undid that who might of been trying to recreate it was all, okay thanks. Wgolf (talk) 01:57, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hardware support: Expired link

it's absolutly a expired link,plz click and check it, and i don't understand how can i edit to be objective? i'm fresh to wiki, and i didn't use any subjective words. should i describe it without any external links? or any events i cited is not recognized? maybe you can give some guidence or demonstration. Hope not to bother，thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Passman.Lu (talk • contribs) 11:24, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

References

You've used several Wikipedia articles to single out one commercial operation to discuss at length. This has nothing to do with an expired link. Also, you might notice that another editor, in reverting your edits, discovered a lot of other promotional material that he also removed from an article or two. Largoplazo (talk) 11:38, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Passman.Lu, you need to stop making any edits that in any way mention trustkernel.com, TrustKernel, globalplatform.org, or GlobalPlatform. It is clear that you have a conflict of interest and are unable to edit in those areas without violating Wikipedia's rules on promotional editing. There are thousands of other articles you can edit where you don't have a conflict of interest. Please read Wikipedia:Best practices for editors with close associations if you have any questions. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:58, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Yemen article

see https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/12.78089/45.03822 saint Joseph church (catholic) is differ than the Aden Legislative Council and if use see the imagery use will see the difference clearly --أبوالحارث الحاسوبي (talk) 11:32, 1 August 2019 (UTC) It firstly built as Saint Maria church (Anglican) not saint Joseph. see http://wikimapia.org/3620330/The-Legislative-Council-of-Aden

I was just writing that maybe "St. Joseph" is wrong, because what I was finding is also that it's St. Mary. Either way, it should be clear that the building was constructed decades before there was such a thing as the Aden Legislative Council. See [1], [2], [3]. Largoplazo (talk) 11:35, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

see real photos of saint joseph church [[4]] [[5]] [[6]] --أبوالحارث الحاسوبي (talk) 18:49, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I already agreed with you about that. The building is still properly identified as a church, and not as the Aden Legislative Council, as (a) the council was a group of people, not a building, and (b) the council having met, while it existed, in a building built as a church doesn't alter the fact that it's properly identified as a church. Largoplazo (talk) 19:02, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

I am from Yemen, and I lived in Aden sometime, I also went to this building, It has a Tourist board as Aden Legislative Council building. So the article of yemen should identify this building as this current status, any historical articles may talk about the history of the building. --أبوالحارث الحاسوبي (talk) 10:56, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Here is video for Legislative Council [7] this book also identify the building as the Legislative Council [8] page 267 see this picture [9] --أبوالحارث الحاسوبي (talk) 11:41, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

About Bukhara

Hello. I wanna discuss about Bukhara. If you read the sources provided(The Birth of Tajikistan and Karl Cordell: Ethnicity and Democratisation in the New Europe). in google. Some contents are not written on the sources. And it's unverifiable reports. Also, I will provide some sources. If you see this Demographics of Uzbekistan, this article said "but these estimates are based on unverifiable reports of "Tajiks around the country".Fane 1998, p. 292-293". So, I think that we need to rewrite the articles. Could you help me? And By the unverifiable reports, some people may misunderstand that tajiks in uzbekistan is treated discriminatingly.I don't want peope look at this article from a biased point of view. Because of this article, some people could look bad about Uzbekistan and taijks people. Thank you so muck. God bless you.--49.254.144.18 (talk) 18:11, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello! I have no expertise on Bukhara or Uzbekistan. My reversion was based only on your having removed material that had been apparently properly sourced. As I said in my edit summary, if you do wish to question the reliability of that source and of the information provided, the best place to discuss your concerns, readily visible to people with the article on their watchlists and who are more familiar with the subject, is at the talk page, Talk:Bukhara. Largoplazo (talk) 11:58, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Pure (app)

Hi, there! I checked this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_(app) and found it that it has multiple issues. Please, take a look--Besamemucho13 (talk) 19:13, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

Hello Largoplazo/Archives,

Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Coordinator

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

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About Dilshad Article

@Largoplazo: JalenFolf said these exact words while we talked earlier... " It is not a problem to just overwrite the given name and a surname. Notable people with the name include content of the article you want to create." This is why I overwrote it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dilshad002 (talk • contribs) 11:25, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Advocaat

Thanks for reverting my edit on advocaat

‘’ I think the point is that it's ordered with coffee because they go well together (complementary), not that the restaurant serves it for free (complimentary).’’

As an assiduous café customer in Belgium I can assert :
- advocaat is never ordered as you suggest. It’s not or rarely on the menu. - sometimes you get a chocolate, cookie, bonbon for free with coffee. In upscale cafés that may be a tiny glass of advocaat. Complimentary.

Cheers Riyadi (talk) 13:42, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

@Riyadi: Thanks for the clarification. I was misled by the "As such", which implied that whatever was being expressed in that sentence was meant to be related to what had come before. As the "complimentary" nature of the advocaat's offering is completely unrelated to the text leading up to the sentence, I've now removed the words "As such". Largoplazo (talk) 11:25, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Please stop yelling

I literally just created Silver Shell for Best Actress about an hour ago. I am still translating a lot of thing from the source material. Your edit yelling at me created a conflict with a lot of work I was doing. Thank you for your interest in the correct translations and stuff. I am going to have to copy and paste my work now and hope it works. Please keep an eye on it for me, thanks, but incivility is not necessary. Warm Regards, Kire1975 (talk) 22:58, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

ex-aequo is a latin phrase that does not need a translation btw Kire1975 (talk) 23:15, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

@Kire1975: I'm sorry you misunderstood friendly exhortation as yelling. THIS IS YELLING!!! One exclamation point isn't.

As for the Latin, it does need translation. I assure you that almost nobody will know what it means, any more than they would if you had used the Japanese word for it. In English, the ordinary word for this is "tie". Assuming you deem reader comprehension a worthwhile goal, that's the word to use. Largoplazo (talk) 00:31, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

I linked the latin phrase to the wiki entry for it, like I did above. I would like to keep it because that is the phrase that the festival has used for 50 years but you make a good point. If the link is unacceptable, then I will put "tie" but it's just not as classy that way, imo. Kire1975 (talk) 00:38, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

@Kire1975: That the festival uses that term may be a fair enough point, but ... is that term commonly used in Spain? By people speaking Spanish (or Basque)? If so, then I'd suggest that, as with the names of prizes and other details, it bears translation for English-language readers, in the same way that, if I were translating from English to German, I would translate "etc." to "uzw.", even though "etc." is Latin, not English. Largoplazo (talk) 01:03, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

The Spanish language archive here is where I got the term. It's a latin phrase, not english or spanish. I never heard of it before today. Like I said, I linked the explanation on the page for anyone who is really confused. Just because you were not familiar with it doesn't mean it's inappropriate. It's been around for 2000 years at least. Kire1975 (talk) 01:16, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

In that archive, most awards like the one above and also this one are listed in Spanish, but some like here in 2008, are listed in English. The latin phrase ex-aequo is used on both spanish and english language pages. Does that satisfy your question? Kire1975 (talk) 01:22, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

@Kire1975: You've responded to my last comment with points that I already addressed in that comment. It's possible that "ex-aequo" is commonly known to Spanish speakers and that they, being native Spanish speakers, were only making the same mistake that I think you're making: not realizing that the term would be as opaque to English speakers as "etc.", I imagine, is to a German speaker, and as opaque as I know "uzw." would be to nearly all English speakers.

Let me ask you a bottom line question: "Tie" is undeniably the ordinary, most common English term for what I'm sure we agree is the fact being conveyed here: Multiple nominees were top-ranked together, sharing the top award. "Tie" is the term that will be most readily understood. Are you opposed to comprehensibility as a factor in choice of terminology? Do you feel it's better to send people running to look up an obscure term they've never seen that denotes a concept for which they all already share a word that they all understand? Just because native speakers of another language used that term in a context specific to them? Largoplazo (talk) 01:39, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

I suspect that there is a question of class here not of native language. Latin phrases are more commonly used among the monied and highly educated types of people who regularly attend top international film festivals, but you obviously have the best argument yet again. It's been fun today. I plan on creating another page for the silver shell for best actor soon, and then a few other words. I sure have learned a lot. If you want to remove the flags from Silver Shell for Best Director, I won't object. Good night. Kire1975 (talk) 01:52, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Hyrdlak

Has said they wish to drop the matter, please do.Slatersteven (talk) 17:07, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

OK. Largoplazo (talk) 17:10, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello Largoplazo/Archives,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 804 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.

Coordinator

Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.

This month's refresher course

Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.

Tools

• It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
• It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.

Reviewer Feedback

Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13.

Second set of eyes

• Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
• Do be sure to have our talk page on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.

Arbitration Committee

The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights.

Community Wish list

There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion.

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Yoruba people

I have no grievance what so ever. Before my first edit to this section there was an unverifiable allusion to Ahmad Baba of Songhai as the coiner of the word Yoruba thereby completely erasing the vital contributions of both Muhammadu Bello and Clapperton. I opened a discussion on this talk page as you can see for yourself above exactly one year now with no one coming forward to discuss with me. I then proceeded with my verifiable edit and almost immediately afterwards got blocked temporarily for that fully referenced edit/contributions by Muhammadu Bello and Coppertone. Now precicely one year later someone (Oramfe) comes up and wants to remove Muhammadu Bello's contribution (which is fully backed up with verifiable reference)and even cast doubt (as in it was said)on Hausa origin of the name. I think Oramfe is the the Vandal here and not me.

On your second comment, yes a people exist regardless of its name but not as a group with a wider ethnic identity as the Yorubas do today.Ppdallo (talk) 18:09, 20 November 2019 (UTC)