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November 2007

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Your recent edits

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Editing Noelia article

Thanks for trying to contribute to the Noelia article. Feel free to continue to help, but remember to appropriately source your edits. The statement you are deleting about Noelia having a relationship with Alexis Grullon is appropriately sourced. Also, feel free to add a source about Noelia being married to Reynoso, if it happened. Thanks again. Thief12 (talk) 10:55, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Recent edits to Noelia article

This comment is a direct reply to your recent edits to Noelia's article.

1. First, you deleted the label information alleging she has been released from EMI Televisa. Yet, you don't provide a reliable source for this. However, even if it was true, articles are known for listing all the labels for which the artist has worked, so the label information can stay.
2. You changed the amount of albums she has sold of her first albums from 500,000 to 50,000 for an unknown reason. She won a gold album for that, and gold albums = 500,000 albums sold.
3. You changed "eponymous debut album" again, for no reason to "first (1999) album" which is practically the same. Look up what eponymous means, in case you don't know.
4. You change "toured" to "promotional tour" for no reason. In terms of Wikipedia, it's the same thing. It's a tour nonetheless.
5. You took "internationl" out of international career, but Reynoso is indeed managing her international career. She has been performing constantly in Italy and US, and I guess that makes her career international.
6. You again bring the issue about them getting married in Las Vegas and you provide yet another article where they, like the article said, denied it. There is an act, but not a marriage act. And, again, they've denied it.

Again, refrain from unnecessary and unreliable edits. Thief12 (talk) 15:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Again

• About the label Like I said before, the fact that she was released from her label is irrelevant. Wikipedia articles are known to list the labels for which the artist has worked through their history. Besides, you're not providing any valid source of her release from the label.
• About the certification We have to check where she was certified with a gold album, because the amount of units sold varies from country to country. I left the reference to the gold album, but left out the amount of units sold until further investigation.
• About the tours We don't have any source that tells us whether the tours were official tours or just promotional. When we have that information, it might be possible to distinguish one from the other. Either way, I don't see the point in specifying such a simple point.
• About her alleged marriage The fact that a newspaper mentions Reynoso as her "husband" isn't enough. Newspapers can make mistakes, and moreover when there is such a rumored situation like these where there have been dissenting allegations from both sides. If you can find a valid source where Noelia or Reynoso admits it, we'll change it. As for now, it hasn't been proven.

All in all, it's not enough with you "knowing" it to be truth. You must provide valid sources and references for your edits. Thanks again. Thief12 (talk) 20:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Lawsuit

Now, what is your source to say that the only lawsuit filed is the one against Noelia and Jorge Reynoso? What are your grounds to dismiss a valid source? Thief12 (talk) 04:11, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

In that article you just posted you can find below sources that contradicts Reynoso's claims that the lawsuit exists. Reynoso said that Ricardo Montaner was called to testify in the lawsuit. Ricardo Montaner contradicts this. Montaner said he has never been called for any lawsuit which contradicts Reynoso claims. You can find the sources below.

There is no lawsuit on file in Mexico, that is just something Reynoso said (after he was sued in Puerto Rico). Months have gone by and Topy or/and his lawyers haven't received any lawsuit. There is no proof of any lawsuit anywhere. You can't find the lawsuit online. A tv show in mexico called Ventaneando went to the authorities to investigate and were told that no lawsuit was ever filed. Reynoso said that Montaner was going to testify. Montaner dismiss that, contradicting Reynoso. Montaner told the media that he was never giving anything about being a witness in any lawsuit and that he supports Topy because he knows Topy is telling the truth. Ricardo Montaner also said he has had problems with Noelia in the past because she falsely accussed someone in his family of a wrong doing too. Noelia a few years ago accussed Ricardo Montaner's oldest son, Alejandro Montaner, of rape. There are rumors Montaner was referring to that. Along with accusing Alejandro Montaner of rape, Noelia has also acussed Guillermo Santiso, president of her ex record label) of rape. That should be mention on the article. The souces are below.

You can find online the actual lawsuit against Noelia and Reynoso for difamation why is that not mention in the article? Also, recently there has been another really big scandal with Noelia and Reynoso when his lawyer quit the case pending against them. You can find online (and above) the petion from the lawyer to withdraw from the case and Noelia's and Reynoso's reaction to it. This has been all over the media and should be mention. The sources are below.

Sources:

http://www.peopleenespanol.com/pespanol/articles/0,22490,1670744,00.html

http://www.peopleenespanol.com/pespanol/articles/0,22490,1675318,00.html

http://www.vocero.com/noticias.asp?s=Escenario&n=104805

http://www.vocero.com/noticias.asp?s=Escenario&n=104891

http://www.vocero.com/noticias.asp?s=Escenario&n=104933

http://www.vocero.com/noticias.asp?s=Locales&n=105554

http://buscador.elnuevodia.com/resultados.aspx

http://www.vocero.com/noticias.asp?s=Escenario&n=101490

http://www.vocero.com/noticias.asp?s=Locales&n=108662

http://www.primerahora.com/XStatic/primerahora/docs/espanol/demandatopy.pdf

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D83LhjPZRE4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TyYmJ4KqVyM&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2YQT9l5F5x8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aCU0uVQKi38&feature=related

http://www.bollywoodsargam.com/video_todayfeaturedvideo.php?blockbustermovieclip=D83LhjPZRE4---latest-Noelia_La_Reina_featured_hollywood_blockbuster_video.html

http://www.webdelatele.com/noticias/noelia-y-jorge-reynoso-sin-abogado.html

http://www.primerahora.com/XStatic/primerahora/docs/espanol/copy_of_renuncia-abogadonoelia.pdf

Noelia's Gold Album

Check out Noelia's discussion page for new information about her gold album. Thief12 (talk) 23:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC)