User talk:Legoktm/November 2023
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TFA Protector Bot
I'm not sure why, but TFA Protector Bot move-protected an article that is not an upcoming TFA as it was the TFA back in September. Not sure why. See here.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:27, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
The Signpost: 6 November 2023
- Arbitration report: Admin bewilderingly unmasks self as sockpuppet of other admin who was extremely banned in 2015
- In the media: UK shadow chancellor accused of ripping off WP articles for book, Wikipedians accused of being dicks by a rich man
- Opinion: An open letter to Elon Musk
- WikiCup report: The WikiCup 2023
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- Recent research: How English Wikipedia drove out fringe editors over two decades
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Tech News: 2023-45
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- In the Vector 2022 skin, the default font-size of a number of navigational elements (tagline, tools menu, navigational links, and more) has been increased slightly to match the font size used in page content. [1]
Problems
- Last week, there was a problem displaying some recent edits on a few wikis, for 1-6 hours. The edits were saved but not immediately shown. This was due to a database problem. [2]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 November. It will be on all wikis from 9 November (calendar).- The Growth team will reassign newcomers from former mentors to the currently active mentors. They have also changed the notification language to be more user-friendly. [3][4]
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).
Administrator changes
Interface administrator changes
Guideline and policy news
Technical news
- The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
- There is a proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal is requested.
Arbitration
- Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
- Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
- Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
- Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
- Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
- Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
- An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.
Miscellaneous
- The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!
Tech News: 2023-46
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Four new wikis have been created:
Problems
- Last week, users who previously visited Meta-Wiki or Wikimedia Commons and then became logged out on those wikis could not log in again. The problem is now resolved. [9]
- Last week, some pop-up dialogs and menus were shown with the wrong font size. The problem is now resolved. [10]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 November. It will be on all wikis from 16 November (calendar).
Future changes
- Reference Previews are coming to many wikis as a default feature. They are popups for references, similar to the PagePreviews feature. You can opt out of seeing them. If you are using the gadgets Reference Tooltips or Navigation Popups, you won’t see Reference Previews. Deployment is planned for November 22, 2023.
Canary (also known as heartbeat) events will be produced into Wikimedia event streams from December 11. Streams users are advised to filter out these events, by discarding all events where meta.domain == "canary". Updates to Pywikibot or wikimedia-streams will discard these events by default. [11]
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HaleBot
Hello, Legoktm,
Lately, I've been going to 0xDeadbeef for HaleBot issues but I just saw on their talk page that they will be away for awhile so here I am! I know you aren't as active now as before but I'm hoping that you could check on HaleBot for me. It didn't issue a Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories report when it usually does (01:02 UTC) so I just thought I'd ask what's up. It's been fairly consistent for the past month except for a couple days when it's issued the report an hour or several hours later. I think these later reports happened because 0xDeadbeef was restarting the bot (or something). But if you get this message and have a moment, maybe you could investigate and see if there's a problem. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:16, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Liz: I can take a look in the next few days, Deadbeef and I were discussing some strategies to have it be more resilient. One of the alternative ideas I had was to have a web tool give you an up-to-date list of empty categories, whenever you wanted - you'd just have to wait a minute or two for the results to be looked up. Would you find that useful? That way you wouldn't be solely dependent upon the bot whenever it has issues. Legoktm (talk) 01:41, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, Legoktm,
- So, no Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories tonight either. To be honest, a tech-savvy editor set up a Quarry query ahile ago that I can run to find some empty categories. However, I much prefer HaleBot's report because the categories are linked and with the query, it's all a hassle, I'm cutting and pasting text from a list to the URL of an existing category page with each category that appears on the list. So, I do have a backup option but the database report is so much easier and thorough I've found. So, I guess it's not as urgent as I make it out to be but if it's a matter of you two spending a little time to tinker with HaleBot, I'd support that!
- Is it just the category report or are their problems with other reports it issues, like the edit counts? Any way, have a great weekend! Liz Read! Talk! 04:34, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Liz: let me know what you think of https://empty-categories.toolforge.org/ - just press "Refresh data" and wait a minute-ish to get the latest set of empty categories with the same links. Legoktm (talk) 06:13, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
The Signpost: 20 November 2023
- In the media: Propaganda and photos, lunatics and a lunar backup
- News and notes: Update on Wikimedia's financial health
- Traffic report: If it bleeds, it leads
- Recent research: Canceling disputes as the real function of ArbCom
- Wikimania: Wikimania 2024 scholarships
Tech News: 2023-47
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week. [12][13]
- Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" (Quechua Wikipedia, Romansh Wikipedia, Romani Wikipedia, Rundi Wikipedia, Aromanian Wikipedia, Tarandíne Wikipedia, Rusyn Wikipedia, Kinyarwanda Wikipedia, Sanskrit Wikipedia, Sakha Wikipedia, Santali Wikipedia, Sardinian Wikipedia, Sicilian Wikipedia, Scots Wikipedia, Sindhi Wikipedia, Northern Sami Wikipedia, Sango Wikipedia, Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia, Sinhala Wikipedia, Slovak Wikipedia, Slovenian Wikipedia, Samoan Wikipedia, Somali Wikipedia, Albanian Wikipedia, Serbian Wikipedia, Sranan Tongo Wikipedia, Swati Wikipedia, Southern Sotho Wikipedia, Saterland Frisian Wikipedia, Sundanese Wikipedia, Silesian Wikipedia, Tamil Wikipedia, Tulu Wikipedia, Telugu Wikipedia, Tetum Wikipedia, Tajik Wikipedia, Thai Wikipedia, Turkmen Wikipedia, Tagalog Wikipedia, Tswana Wikipedia, Tongan Wikipedia, Tok Pisin Wikipedia, Turkish Wikipedia, Tsonga Wikipedia, Tatar Wikipedia, Twi Wikipedia, Tahitian Wikipedia, Tuvinian Wikipedia, Udmurt Wikipedia, Uyghur Wikipedia, Uzbek Wikipedia, Venda Wikipedia, Venetian Wikipedia, Veps Wikipedia, West Flemish Wikipedia, Volapük Wikipedia). This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally. [14][15][16]
- The Vector 2022 skin will have some minor visual changes to drop-down menus, column widths, and more. These changes were added to four Wikipedias last week. If no issues are found, these changes will proceed to all wikis this week. These changes will make it possible to add new menus for readability and dark mode. Learn more. [17]
Future changes
- There is an update on re-enabling the Graph Extension. To speed up the process, Vega 2 will not be supported and only some protocols will be available at launch. You can help by sharing what you think about the plan.
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Adding RfC ID
Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) (Diff ~1186434018) 🤨
Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) (Diff ~1186434024) 🤨 — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:44, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) @Alexis Jazz: This is because Boud and WhatamIdoing ignored the directions at WP:RFC and Template:Rfc, both of which explicitly say not to enclose
{{rfc}}in<nowiki>...</nowiki>. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:59, 24 November 2023 (UTC)- Thanks for the fix. I can't speak for WhatamIdoing, but in my case it was that I didn't notice that comment in the documentation - it wasn't deliberately ignoring the warning. I've suggested a bold header to the paragraph to make it a bit more obvious to someone reading too fast. Boud (talk) 23:28, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
- Redrose64,
/<nowiki>(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki)){0,200})\{\{rfc([\|\}])(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki)){0,200})<\/nowiki>/$1{{tlp|rfc$3$4/g? Try in your browser console:'<nowiki>{{rfc|policy|tech}}</nowiki>'.replace(/<nowiki>(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki)){0,200})\{\{rfc([\|\}])(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki)){0,200})<\/nowiki>/g, '$1{{tlp|rfc$3$4') // {{tlp|rfc|policy|tech}}
| “ | Never send a human to do a machine's job. | ” |
| — Agent Smith | ||
— Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 04:05, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Alexis Jazz: What does it do, and why are you asking me to do this? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:41, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Redrose64, you mentioned the instructions. That regular expression would make the instructions largely obsolete. Legoktm would have to add it to their bot for it to make a difference. It would allow the bot to rewrite {{rfc}} in nowiki tags in most cases so the bot wouldn't try to add an RfC ID anymore.
Even more safe I guess:/<nowiki>(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki)){0,200})\{\{rfc([\|\}])(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki)){0,200})<\/nowiki>/<nowiki>$1{{rfc$3$4</nowiki>/g— Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:57, 25 November 2023 (UTC)- You addressed the post to me, but I don't maintain Legobot. Nobody does - not even Legoktm, who wants to offload the bot's tasks to anbody who is willing to take them over. I won't, as I have zero bot coding experience. Feel free to volunteer.
- This is why we have all these explicit directions and workarounds - I have been observing the bot's behaviour for several years now, so that I can answer the questions posted here. Just look back through the archives here and at User talk:Legobot, to see the large numbers of questions that boil down to "I didn't follow the instructions and screwed up". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:34, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- Redrose64, you mentioned the instructions. That regular expression would make the instructions largely obsolete. Legoktm would have to add it to their bot for it to make a difference. It would allow the bot to rewrite {{rfc}} in nowiki tags in most cases so the bot wouldn't try to add an RfC ID anymore.
- @Alexis Jazz: What does it do, and why are you asking me to do this? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:41, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Tech News: 2023-48
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 November. It will be on all wikis from 30 November (calendar). There is no new MediaWiki version next week. [18][19]
- MediaWiki's JavaScript system will now allow
async/awaitsyntax in gadgets and user scripts. Gadget authors should remember that users' browsers may not support it, so it should be used appropriately. [20] - The deployment of "Add a link" announced last week was postponed. It will resume this week.
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