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Top Music Videos

Would you be able to work your magic (search for something) for me? I want to know whether B'Day Anthology Video Album charted on Top Music Videos; I can't find any relevant BB issues on Google Books. Unless it didn't chart.... why would that be? And lol at the number of sections on your talk page, you should really decrease the age of archived discussions. Adabow (talk · contribs) 22:11, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Number of sections? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:02, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

And god knows why they released 200,000 copies of it. IT charted at the lower end at #24 on April 28, Top Music Videos, but not in the year-end charts also, selling a meagre 23,000. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:20, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Why on earth does the Google Books copy of that issue not have the Top Music Videos chart? Can I source that 23,000 somewhere, or is it your OR? Lol I suppose retailers thought that it would sell like hotcakes. It was kinda dumb to make it Walmart-only... And I meant the number of discussions on your talk page... :P Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:24, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Because Billboard physical magazine stopped publishing the Top Music Video chart long ago. And yes, the 23,000 is my OR. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:02, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh really? Why the hell did they do that? Then how do I cite it? Can you gimme a link? (Enough questions for ya?) Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:13, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Funny thing is you can't. I can give you my user logged-in link, but the EL tool won't recognize it as it can't bypass BB's filter. Your best thing was the year-end chart, but it didn't chart there also. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:20, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

If you are already logged into BB.biz and you click on the link can you view the article or does it ask you to re-login? Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:30, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Re-login of course. That's the point of having a username and password, lol. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:43, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

OK then, I suppose the best thing to do is to cite the physical issue? Or should I provide a link to the BB.biz search and a "search for blah blah" note? Adabow (talk · contribs) 10:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

It would be wrong to cite the physical issue since it is not published there. Only the biz link and say that logging is required. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:10, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Okie dokies thanks. Adabow (talk · contribs) 10:12, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Yoü and I‎

Do you think enough time has passed to get "Yoü and I‎" up to GA status? I didn't want to work on the article too early when details were still being released. I'll do what I can--any help would be much appreciated! --Another Believer _(Talk) 17:37, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Can you give me 2-3 days? The article is not GA ready and lacks quite a bit of background and composition info. I'm held up by some GA reviews after that I will revamp it. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:18, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Ahh, one of the few decent songs from Born This Way, along with "Judas", "Hair", "The Edge of Glory" and "Marry the Night". Seems that the singles/promos picked were good choices. :P Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:08, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Of course, Legolas. No rush. I am happy to help expand the article, but you will be much better at making the article consistent with other Gaga articles. Thanks! --Another Believer _(Talk) 15:16, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Robyn

I hear you have access to Soundscan? Well, could you have a look and tell me the sales for these albums by Robyn:

• Robyn Is Here
• Robyn
• Body Talk Pt. 1
• Body Talk Pt. 2
• Body Talk
• Body Talk Pt. 3 (EP)

I know I can't source this for articles, I'm just curious :) Thanks Pancake (talk) 19:17, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Yep, it follows by the list you mentioned: 1,223,000 - 145,000 - 221,000 - 109,000 - 78,000. That's all. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:35, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Can you take care of the review of this article?

"This article" I'm talking to you about is the The Downward Spiral article. You mayn't be familiar with Nine Inch Nails (who has only one official band member, Trent Reznor, frontman, song-writer, and producer of the band), who created the album with Flood.

So, anyways: Hello, I'm 1007D. I am a man addicted to music Wikiprojects, as well as the Sharks Wikiproject. So the question above intrepates you need to take over the review of the article regarded an album named The Downward Spiral. Are you vowing to deliver me talks on the article's recent status, problems, and requirements for GA at this somewhat sparky page? 'I () () `'/ I> <pronounced "one-hundred-seventy"> 04:36, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty much aware of Nine Inch Nails 1007D, though don;t like much of their songs. Btw, lemme get this straight, you want me to take up the GA review or comment on your review? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:20, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

First give me some comments about the article, I will fix the article at your comments requests, and then you review it. Wait until tommorrow to do all of these goals, because I live in the California time slot. By the way, you are a good friend. And I also listen to Lady Gaga like you do! 'I () () `'/ I> <pronounced "one-hundred-seventy"> 07:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

1007D, if I comment on the article, that means I'm already aware of its status, and hence I won't review it. If you want me toi review it, I will directly do it. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:42, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, you can review it today. Just check if it is suitable enough for GA status. All right Legolas? 'I () () `'/ I> <pronounced "one-hundred-seventy"> 07:45, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

The article is a fail, so I will renominate it soon. You might be a reviewer of the article once I do so. 'I () () `'/ I> <pronounced "one-hundred-seventy"> 07:56, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Re-nominate and let me know. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:28, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

1+1

Hi Legolas. I am currently expanding "1+1". Actually, Jay-Z filmed a video of Beyonce rehearsing the song and released it on the net, after which it got significant coverage. I know you will tell me that this is nothing great but yet, i want to know if it is worth putting mentioning this in the article? Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:33, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

IMHO it's just fancruft. I know it got coverage from heaps of really reliable sources, but really it's not relevant. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:59, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay Ada. Can you upload a sample for the song? Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:03, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I have the song. I would be happy to upload a file for you. Which part is all I ask?--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 06:14, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I dont think it would be fancruft if Jay-Z shot it. Is the rehearsal related to the music video in any way? That can be included as the background then. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:17, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

No its not. Its a video Jay-Z filmed on his I-phone of Beyonce rehearsing the song a capella backstage. Nothing more.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 06:19, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Then no use. Why the hell is this one going down? Don;t people appreciate good songs? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:20, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmm Legolas, what do you mean? What are you referring to? Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:22, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

BTINH's iTunes rollercoaster ride. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:23, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't exactly call it a good song....--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 06:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

(→)You would or wouldn't? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:28, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

You are right Legolas, people no longer appreciate good songs. Everything is generic pop now. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:30, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry typo. I wouldn't. I find it to be very basic Babyface R&B. You like it? I mean its listenable, but certainly nothing great.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 06:35, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

The question is for Legolas but if it was for me, i would say that it has grown on me and YES i like it. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

You exactly got my point Nathan. The Babyface R&B vibes is what appeals me to it. Yonka truddles nicely along with the rhythm and surprisingly delivers a joyous trip-hoppy paean. And it also got me a little interested in 4, which till now I didn't care a dime for after the debacles called "Run the Worlds (Girls)" and "1+1". — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:40, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Lol, I see, so you like that soft R&B stuff. Its nice, but nothing "wow". As for "1+1", thats actually gotten more plays on my Ipod than the other 3 from 4 (only 11, but hey its something lol) because I like its stripped and soulful nature. Although it really has no hook, its just a run-on slow potpourri of bore lol. So yeah, not too excited for 4 just yet. Maybe the new "career changing song" from Diane Warren will get me happier. Heard about it?--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 06:44, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

What about "End of Time"? Fans have been requesting as a single on YouTube, Rap-Up and her usual fan sites. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:49, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Ya I heard about it, but haven't listened to it. I deleted "RTW" yesterday from my ipod (8 plays), what was the point of keeping it? Seems like the shipment rumour which Jivesh said yesterday is indeed true. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I kept it only in case Jivesh comes inside my car, so he can play it :P As for "End of Time" i hate it the beat gets me nervous :S And yes, the Warren song is coming! Freshly written by her. What is the shipment rumor?--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 06:58, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

No it is not shipment. Concerning, shipment, sony will shift 1 million physical copies. The 120,000 thing was the amount of copies that fans have pre-ordered in the US only. Is 120,000 good? Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:00, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I hope God bless me with the opportunity to sit in your car one day and play RTW. Lol. Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

They are shipping 1 million hard copies? Honestly, it seems a bit much. I don't think it will sell that much soon enough. Stores look to shift them quickly, not store them for 4 months. Haha aww :) I hope one day!--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 07:02, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I agree with Nathan. I love RTW and "1+1" (I 100% seriously dunno why they're flopping), but Best Thing is kinda meh. I know it will do alright though. I found If I Were a Boy a bit same-same as well, although the video is nice. BTW have you seen Honey B's Facebook promo campaign? (Extremely pissed off with the four edit conflicts I just had) Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:03, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Yep. She's added to my profile . :) — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:05, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Hahaha, I had 2 :P. What can I say, this is a popular page lol. Well, I don't love any of them Andy, don't put words in my mouth :PP I can tolerate "1+1", that is all. I actually like "IIWAB" :) and I love the video.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 07:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I was writing something, and had 5 conflicts, damn I gave up writing it. I love evrything from Sasha now. It was a brilliant eras. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:08, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

What conflicts are you all talking about? Edit conflicts? Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:11, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I always copy my post before posting, so that never happens to me :P--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 07:14, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

"Party" has leaked. Not the uptempo dancey tune I had expected, but it's still quite nice. Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:44, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Link me up ma good fella! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Here. Jivesh • Talk2Me 07:48, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Sigh...still nothing special. Some good beats and grooves, and nice moments, but the song kind of bland. 5/10. Sorry :(--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 08:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Agree with Nathan, nothing special. This would have been so much better as a dance-y beat infused song. Very Rihanna-esque I must say. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:07, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Rihanna's voice (although whiny and horrid) would have fit the song better than Bey. As said before, I fear 4 will go nowhere, especially internationally, where she has so far received zero recognition this time around.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 08:14, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Anyways, even if it flops (90% chance now), I'm sure Bey will come back around sooner. She's no Xtina Copylera. And according to sources she recorded 70+ songs for the 4 project, some of them are bound to be gpood and might be useful for the fifth album. It seems except for Madonna, Janet and Mariah, all divas flop on their fourth endeavor. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:20, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Mmmm, it shoulda gone on a Kanye album... oh well... I'm looking forward to "I Was Here" (written by Ryan Tedder). I'm annoyed that the deluxe edition has only three extra tracks and fills up the space with RTW remixes. At least 2/3 of the remixes are OK... but I probably won't listen to em. I am starting to think that 4 will likely flop, but on the bright side it won't be another IASF (correct me if I'm wrong, but at last count 4 album editions plus two live releases). And Nathan, RTW did alright outside of America and Europe... (I suppose that only leaves UK and Oceania) but it hit top 10-15 in a few countries. Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:23, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Nathan if you still remember, this is what i posted on your talkpage 4 months ago. Remember i was telling you that most artist fourth album fail and that i was fearing that the same would happen to Beyonce. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:25, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I was so annoyed by IASF editions. Then again, I will most likely buy 4 too as Knowles is one of my fav artists. Its strange how I buy Knowles' albums instead of her singles. Conversely, for Rihanna and Katy PErry, I just buy the singles and don't care for the album at all. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:27, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

RTW reached top 10 in Australia, New Zealand, Norway and missed it by just one place in the United Kingdom and Ireland. As for the rest, it is generally inside the top 20 excluding the US. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:31, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Lol, I hope I don't receive too much hate here, but I download my music for free :D unless they are my absolute favorite artists, or just really good bodies of work. I buy Mariah's stuff (obvs), I bought Gaga's "BTW" (I love that album), Britney's (I gotta support my girl) and bought some Perry tracks. For now, 4 is nowhere in my buying list lol, Hmmm, well Jivesh, if Gaga fails next time around I'll definitely start believing that! And uch, I hate Aguilera, how she receives comparisons to Mariah and Whitney I do not know. She's a shouting *&%$.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 08:32, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I also do not buy songs. I listen to them on YouTube. My parents said they will not give me a credit card this soon. Lol. BTW, i love Xtina. I wonder why many of you do not like her. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:35, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Is that the RIAA at your door now Nathan? Pop artists usually have so-so album sales, but have huge single sales (Perry, Rihanna, Gaga a little), while rockier albums are massive but rarely have charting singles (especially here, where radio is not factored into singles chart). I'm extremely disappointed in Born This Way. After "Judas" I was considering buying it (despite the atrocious artwork), but I listened to most of the songs on YouTube and only like a few. TFM was amazing, and BTW is kinda... it seems she didn't really try in the music aspect, just the hype. But that's my opinion, Nathan and Lego both love it so.... Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:41, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I didn't admit to anything! *Chuckles* I think it would be more like the feds lol. I like much of her new album. "Judas" is my favorite. The production is great and the hook is good. I also love "The Edge of Glory" (You don't like this one)? I probably would say I like 10 songs from it. I hate "You and I" though. Gaga is no Dion with ballads lol.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 08:47, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I like the bounciness of "Eh, Eh". I kinda like TEOG too and "Marry" is alright as well. Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:52, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

People don't like Doubtina Vaguilera because she is a supreme A-class B****. There I said it. Its a proven fact that she flat out throws shades at her contemporaries. Look at the things she said about Britney, P!nk, Carey, Jessica, Gaga etc. Serves her right that Bionic flopped. I really laughed that day when "Not Myself Tonight" came on, because I knew she was going down the drain. Born This Way exceeded my expectations I must say. And Andrew, pop stars have had huge album sales + singles sales too in the past. Its just that the economy is too bad and album sales have drastically reduced, while singles downloads have exponentially increased. Hence you hardly see US platinum album nowadays and will never see a Diamond album anytime soon. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I really love the fact that you hate her. She is really one of my least favorite people out there lol. And her voice, tbh is very hoarse, limited (range) and she screams way too much. I mirror all the above things said about her! And yes, unfortunately the music business went down the tubes :( Its sad we don't see real album sales anymore. I recall the last Diamond album being Usher's Confessions in 2004. I doubt we will ever have another.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 09:04, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Mybe in another 3 years, Fearless has a chance I must say, followed by Emancipation in another 5 years. Also, Susan Boyle might finally reveal she's a man, hence IDAD might go Diamond too. :P — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:07, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

You made me laugh so loud. Jivesh • Talk2Me 09:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I like Xtina's ballads, and "Ain't No Other Man" (and sorta like "Woohoo"). Nathan, I can see similarities between her and Carey *cough-oversinging-cough*, but I really think that Carey is a better singer and has better songs (and she doesn't rely on sex to sell). Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:21, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree she screams, but I have three of her albums and I love 'em all :P Actually, my diva Whitney once said "I'd like to thank you Christina. You've done the best rendition of 'Run to You' [beside myself]." Lol, Whitney might be an A-class diva, (and I mean, too much diva-ish. The fame her career brought to her completely changed her in 1988. You can clearly see the difference in her attitude 1985 (extremely shy)-1990 (very bold and cold).) but I love her :) Novice7 (talk) 10:00, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Hehe, don't get me wrong Adabow, all our divas over-sing, which is why I used the word *scream*. When you watch her sing (especially live) she shouts excessively to hit prolonged notes, I actually don't find her voice amusing at all. As Legolas said above, when "NMT" came out I too laughed and thought the blatant attempt to re-sell sex after her baby was just ridiculous. And look at her now, like a short bloated pig lol. (sorry Mags :))--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 13:33, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Got sick of scrolling

Lego, can you see whether "Freakum Dress" appeared on the Bubbling Under? Someone added it to her discog page... Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:26, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

checking... — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

"Freakum Dress", 25, on September 9, 2007 on Bubbling under. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:03, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. So when did they stop publishing Bubbling Under in the physical mag? Are they winding the magazine down and becoming web-only? Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:16, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

They have it, but not in the main magazine. They have a supplementary release along with the physical one, noting some of the minor charts like Bubbling, music video, european albums etc. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:27, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

OMG why? Sometimes Billboard can be very frustrating. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I think they hate Wikipedia editors. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:48, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Then again, who doesn't? Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:50, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

True words Ada, very true. Anyways, cha cha now, gonna take a nap. Have to go to the physio in the evening. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:53, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Gaga/Hair/Wikicup.

I'd forgotten about the wikicup all together. But you reminded me :P Btw... I've taken up the review for hair. will be done in the next few days. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 23:44, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Will you be able to submit enough reviews and articles now? Competition is pretty tough. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:12, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll try lol. I've submitted a good three-four articles and I've taken up some reviews. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 16:27, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey Avi how goes things? Did you have: a) any more comments for On the Floor? b) any recording information (from Sound-on-Sound) for 3 Words (song) by Cheryl Cole? c) any information on where I can find recording information about songs in general? thank you my good friend. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 15:52, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Doing good, getting busy in reviews again. OTF looks fine, some minor tweaks I did. Nah, I lost track of "3 Words" after 10 issues of no Cheryl Cole. And Sound on Sound, Musician, Record Mania and Q are some of the magazines that usually write about song recordings and interview with sound engineers. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:05, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Wicked... good stuff. Nathan's took up the review for "On the Floor," some of the grammar stuff i agree with but some of the other stuff seems tedious and even I don't like this... type comments. what do you think? — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 16:13, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Actually for once, I'm impressed with Nathan's reviews. He did a pretty thorough job. Yes, some of it you might not agree with, just discuss it with him with your reasonings. His grammar is not as strong for FA requirements. Well you have lots to do in the review it seems, and it was bound to be. It will help you in the FAC no doubt. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:18, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Upon a second read you're right... a lot of it seems very fair. :( I guess I'm expecting this because i want to take it Fa eventually. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 20:15, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Don't' worry Uny, if you disagree with anything, just reply to the comment. I make mistakes to and have no problem taking a second look. I really tried to be thorough, because I know you want to take this to FA one day and I'd only be cheating you to do a half-ass job.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 22:31, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Harsh

Why do you hate me? Muthamonster (talk) 06:48, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

It isn't just you. Legolas has a history of being harsh on talk pages. Legolas, come on, man. More often than not, when I come across your edits, you're using edit summaries that insult other users or profanity in your posts. Could you please try to improve your communication skills? Strikerforce^{Talk Review me!} 13:41, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Show me dude. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:35, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, for starters, all of these edit summaries on the Born This Way article - [1], [2], May 30 @ 06:13 - "Good lord", May 29 @ 05:50 - "revert this crap addition", May 4 @ 04:02 - "Please don't go on adding it when you have no clue..", May 2 @ 04:51 - "No honey, you have been explained before...", April 20 @ 06:36 - "Damn bloody unreliable", April 17 @ 11:50 - "Educate yourself over NFCC instead", April 17 @ 09:41 - "the user should familiarize himself with what is reliable, what is primary, what is third party... waste of time" (which happened to be in response to me and I did take offense to the tone, at the time, but chose not to comment here about it then), February 10 @ 04:38 - "I have told you time and again not to add this image, next time you add it, I will personally report you to ANI", January 24 @ 12:02 - "Remopve crap", January 14 @ 17:03 - "call me when you read WP:N".

Those are just on one article and only going back to 1/1/11. If I really had the time, I could go searching for a long list of edits to other articles where your edit summaries have been just as condescending / bitey / or reek of attempting to own an article. You have a good deal of experience and do a good job policing some of the material that doesn't belong on Wikipedia and you should be commended for that. But, you don't always treat others very well. I've also seen you break out profanity on more than a few talk pages (again, if I had time to sit here and do it, it would not be hard to come up with at least a dozen instances within the past month, I'd bet). My point is, by all means keep up the good work, but try to not to come across in such a dickish way. Strikerforce^{Talk Review me!} 17:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Legolas, I can see where Striker is coming from. Take it as constructive advice, and assume good faith a bit more. I know it can be very tiring to see something you have worked so hard on free from blemishes, but remember that most Wikipedians are here primarily to improve Wikipedia. Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:47, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

See Strikeforece, I really don't tolerate any kind of nonsense editing on good quality articles. Most of these users do heinous edits, even though they are warned of policies, they read hidden notes or they are aware that discussions are going on. I really don't care for such users, and won't ever. If you feel that is bitey, so be it. And Ada, those users are not here to improve, the word "fancruft" is as strong as it can be now. Music articles have developed tremendously over the past two years since me, REalist, Bookkeeper, Efe started working and their popularity is what attracts the heinous editors. Most of them do no good except cause trouble. I don't care for them, simple. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:07, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Be all of that as it may, that still does not give you the right to insult people. You do not own those articles, as your statement about "... since me, REalist, Bookkeeper, Efe started working..." comes across. Revert the bad edits, as needed, but be more civil in the process. Strikerforce^{Talk Review me!} 07:47, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I care hardly... — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:35, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

So basically what you're saying is that you don't care that you're a dick and feel that one of the core principles of interaction on Wikipedia doesn't apply to you? Strikerforce^{Talk Review me!} 19:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm telling you to just stop coming here and I don't give a damn what you think. Clear enough? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

help

Hey you think you can crop/recolour a little image: [3]?? Thank you!!--MindyHall (talk) 21:13, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Sure I can. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Legolas that was great thank you! Now you think you can start working on I'm Breathless article??--MindyHall (talk) 20:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Kevin Stea

Thought this one might interest you.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:00, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey Blofeld, thanks a lot for the link. How are ya? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Decoration?

Hi there! You told me not to leave pgotos for decoration... but I don't really get it. At The Monster Ball's broadcast section, why do we use two bad Romance pictures, if we have pic from the show that was recorded and broadcasted. This is more appropriate I guess. Or I don't understand it. :) Please explain. I just try to help improving the articles, that's why I kepp on uploading photos to commons. --Sricsi (talk) 00:07, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

You do a hell of a job with the images, that is out of question and the community can't thank you enough. But as far as images in articles are concerned, they are not just added for decoration. Those two "Bad Romance" images you removed were placed there with the specific intent to portray that the performance on the original and the revised shows included a giant gyroscope, which is also being discussed in the article. Hence those two image are more suitable for inclusion in the article than the one you provided, which already kinda has it in the first image. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:27, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Re: Regarding This

As I am about to sleep, this will be my last reply today, but I think news.com is a good enough news source, albeit not creative. --The Σ ^talk_contribs 07:30, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Beyonce's album has leaked

Legolas, Beyonce really needs to get her dad back to business. The entire album has leaked. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh dear. Well acceptance is the next step to repentance. Express yourself, don't repress yourself. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:33, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Legolas, i have told you countless times that i do not understand this coded language. What did you mean? Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:39, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I meant Bee should accept that this has a high chance of flopping, then repent by delivering us with what she does best.... a gorgeous song! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:41, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Do you want to listen to "countdown"? Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:42, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

The album has indeed leaked. I can see it in Torrent. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:44, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Please give me the link. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:45, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Torrents are copyvio links, sorry I can't paste it here. Its in Piratebay torrent. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:47, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Can i listen to all the songs there without getting my computer infected by a virus? Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:50, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

No, you have to download the album. I'm not downloading the album as I want to buy it. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:51, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Is it safe to download form there? As i told you before, i never but music as i do not have a credit card. Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:53, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh dear. Yes it has indeed leaked. Earlier than expected I must say. I mean has the bloody album eve gone into production yet!? The release date is over 3 weeks away! Now a flop is imminent unfortunately. Jivesh, if you want to find links quickly, go to Twitter and type "Beyonce 4 album leak" or something similar and loads of status updates will be shown, you'll find many links there ;) I for one will not be buying, its a very poor weffort by her IMO--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 16:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Lol, here comes her Glitter', Discipline, American Life, Just Whitney etc.... :P — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:56, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I feel very sad. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:10, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

He he it seems those torrents are all password protected. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 17:31, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

It's of no use. The songs are being posted on YouTube. At least one or two in 10 minutes. Seems like the same person is posting them. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, Yonka's label will block that bastard's account sooner or later. Serves him right. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 17:44, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I feel so angry. If i get the one who did this, i will kill him/her in such a painful way that you even cannot imagine. The big deal is not that the album leaked. ALL albums leak, but three weeks prior to its release is JUST TOO MUCH. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:48, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I feel it my friend, I was so angry also when Born This Way leaked even if it was just 5 days ago. And yes, three weeks is just too much. Kabhi maff nahi kar sakte us saale kutte ko! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 17:53, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Maaf to bahat door ki baat hain. Woh sala to kutta ka nahin, kutti ki maut mare ga. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Waise bhi, kutte samajdar hote hain. Jisne aisa cheeze kiya, woh kabhi samajdar nahin ho sakta. To usko kutta boulakar doonya bhar ki kutto ko badnam mat karo. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Agar bandi ho to churail ki maut marna chahiye... — Legolas ^(talk2me) 17:59, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I feel like laughing my lungs out when i see the word "churail". I like to hear that. But i never want to see one. Nahin to main hi mar jaoon ga. What is "bandi", hmmmmm the female of a monkey? Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:04, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

This is my top favorite song from 4. Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Jivesh, are you a saddist? I won't listen to the leaked tracks, I want it to at least be something when I get the album. B.B. should push forward the release date. Or is that a no-no when it comes to albums? Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

The album is HOT. IT HAS A LOT OF BALLADS AND THE MUSIC IS LIKE THE 70S. I love the song "Countdown". You can at least listen to that as it leaked a week ago on certain websites. If Beyonce is cleveer, she will choose it as her next single but i think her number 1 lies in "End of time". Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:01, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

I would strongly say no to album leaks and refuse to listen to it untill the release date of the album. But Ada, since the album leaked 3 weeks before, it makes sense to capitslize on it by moving the release date. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:21, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

What difference will it make if the album's release date is moved? Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:25, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Sales of 4 will be more. The more delayed it is, the more people will download it from torrent etc. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:28, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

To tell you frankly if Beyonce is CLEVER she will start the promotion immediately after the leak just like GaGa did. But if Yonka prefers to stay inside her house with her swami, what can we do!!!!!! It's up to her. Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:30, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Jay-Z is anyway leaving her + Rihanna is destroying her career = Jay-Z is leaving her for Rihanna. :P — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Are you serious? Is Jay-Z leaving her? That's so good news. Are you serious? Please tell me quickest possible? Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:38, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Its just a rumour. I personally want that she leaves Jay-Z. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:42, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

I also want that. Even though i think Beyonce really have feelings for him, they should part. Beyonce deserves better than that racist. Yes, i am talking about Jay-Z. He hates white people. I have always wanted Beyonce to marry Jay Sean or Usher. Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

I like Jay Sean. There's a good vibe about him. Both Jay-Z and Eminem are fucking racists and should just die for all I care. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:50, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Wow, the last for words you typed contain two titles from Younka's 4. Eminem is racist?? So it means he hates black people right? But he had a massive hit with Rihanna who is black. Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Did you know i am the one who talks to you the most on Wikipedia? Jivesh • Talk2Me 05:55, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, only when chart success intrigues him he wants to "hook-up" with a black human being. I hate people like that. This whole shit of "Black-hating-white" and "White-trashing-black" is so passe. I am tired of these artists. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:58, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Wow, ther eare so many users coming to my talk poage! Its like the congregation of wiki. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:01, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that's very well said. Bye for now. Have to go to the bookshop to make photocopies (>>>>>1200 pages from past exam papers). See you very soon. Take care. Jivesh • Talk2Me 06:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Sayonara! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:05, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Wow, so many developments. I feel sorta depressed. Bitch should release 4 next week, mostly so that people can hold off the urge to download leaks. Will shipping CDs in time for next week be an issue for Sony, though? If Jay-Z leaves Bey I reckon her album will sell more, and then I will propose to her. :) But really, I think she would be pretty depressed if Jay left her, but then she'd make her bestest album ever using that emotion (I'm not reading into anything too much, am I? lol). I hate Eminem, which is made worse by the fact that "Love the Way" was one of two hip hop songs played on the radio here last year (the other being "Airplanes")... he needs to calm down, treat his wife and kids and black people like humans, and get off the drugs. Maybe then I'll have some respect for him. I liked Jay Sean's All or Nothing songs, but then he sold out to the dance-pop-with-a-hint-of-&B frenzy ("Hit the Lights", anyone?). Beyonce and Usher would make a nice couple, but I'm hoping for them to do a smash duet first (LITCp2 was nice, but they could do waay, waaaaaaay better). Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Bee and Usher would really make a nice couple. Eminem needs to get off the botox, look at him, looks worse than that alien from the "E.T." video. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:10, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Lol. I'm fifth most active on this page. Had the last month+ not been awkward and on good terms, I'd probably rank higher :P--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 00:39, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I am very happy you two started talking again. This comes from the bottom of my heart. Jivesh • Talk2Me 04:42, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Possible sock

Stifle, would you mind checking the contributions of MindyHall (talk · contribs)? Seems another sock of ElPilotoDi (talk · contribs) to me. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Could possibly be. Have you tagged any of the non-free images for review? Stifle (talk) 14:33, 8 June 2011 (UTC)`

Problem is the user is uploading on existing images with non-free, non-replaceable versions. I don't know how to submit for review then. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:52, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Just revert them. Stifle (talk) 08:14, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

WP:NSONGS (Maija Vilkkumaa)

Hi.

I was wondering if this edit[4] is a perfectly OK procedure without discussion (if based on WP:NSONGS)? Yeah, it didn't chart so I wasn't 100% sure if it meets WP:NSONGS... -- Frous (talk) 16:35, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Perfecto. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:26, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Madonna

I noticed that List of awards and nominations received by Madonna is up for a Peer Review and I would like to know if the article includes her nominations and awards in films. GamerPro64 20:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

She was only ever nominated for Evita, so yes, it does. And Razzies are never included. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:22, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Rihanna

Legolas do you know anything about Rihanna's singles chronology for Loud? It says that Man Down is the 5th/6th single but I thought that Raining Men (song) and Man Down were both promotional singles? Muthamonster (talk) 06:56, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

If they are being sent to radio, then they are official singles. Ask at the template talk page, someone will answer you. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:14, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk:The Monster Ball Tour/GA1

Hi Legolas. The review is up, and the nomination has been placed on hold for a period of seven days. Additional instructions and information is found on the nom page. Good luck! much to do.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 03:50, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Nathan. I will respond soon. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Ketchup

Alright, first off talkback on my page (just continue the convo here), second it looks like "Harold" hasn't been scrapped because her promo team is blabbing that she filmed a music video last week and didnt tell anyone, but the song its for is unknown, just so you are aware =P - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 04:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I heard a different story, she filmed videos for the revamp of the tour, but nevertheless, if she releases THS, yahhhhhhh. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:56, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Here Comes Your Man

Hi, I've addressed/responded to your comments on the article's GA nomination page. I'll see what I can do about the Fair Use rationales. Thanks. WesleyDodds (talk) 05:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Reliable?

Legolas is this; [5] a reliable source for the Music Video section for The Edge of Glory, in terms of who is going to direct it? Muthamonster (talk) 06:53, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid not. I'm still trying to search a reliable source indicating Joseph KAhn directed the video, though. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Here is one from Idolator. For now, thats the most reliable that is available.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 08:08, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I saw that too, but since I don;t find Idolator reliable, (their description gives me creeps) well I guess MTV will be reporting sometime soon. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Lol, agreed. The name sounds ghetto, yet the art and web design is, shall I say, gay. Also, let's not forget they screwed up the Britney "I Wanna Go" cover, I doubt I'll ever forget that one lol. Others will surely become available soon.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 08:12, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

The "I Wanna Go-go" cover is still dead "gay" I think. :P — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I hate that website, especially Becky Bain. She NEVER writes something good about Beyonce. Can you imagine that she was not even satisfied with "Countdown"? I feel like ......... Just fed up of her tripe. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Even more hilarious, she gives Ke$ha fantastic reviews. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Dude, themusic we all listen to is gay. I mean Mariah, Madonna, Gaga, Britney!? Hehe, doesn't get much gayer than those :P (Ok, maybe Cher and Liza lol). Well Jivesh, sorry to say that during this era, neither do I :P--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 08:24, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Nathan, are you serious? Do we listen to gay music? And about the album, i bet you will be eating your words when you pay more attention to the ballads. To me, "I Miss You" is a 100% Mariah Carey Song. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:26, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't know but I think Mimi and Nippy appeal more to straight audience than Gaga nd Madonna. Must be the case of theatrics vs straight-up singing. Yes, a general consensus would be that gay men like a colorful show more than the straight crowd, hence I am basing my assumptions on that. And Kesha has earned respect to me now as an artist. Jivesh, we ar enot talking about Yonka here, GET OUT of her CRACK NOW!!! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Haha, I am not. Those are pretty gay artists, but as we can all agree, most of the best! And "I Was Here" remains the only song I like for 4 :P Lol, this Yonka name always makes me chuckle. BTW Legolas, your opinion here please. I have come up with a theory that 4 was purposefully leaked by her management. I think that they know (we all do) that the album was going to fail and sell poorly, so in order to save Knowles the embarrassment of having a Glitter, they chose to leak it as an excuse for why it will fail. Like "well, the album leaked 3 weeks before its release, so thats why it did so poorly." I think Knowles is going to scrap the project (do little promo) and try another album in another 9 months. What do you think about my whole conspiracy theory? :D--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 08:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more Nat. Good thinking, and I would be super-duperly disappointed and angry with her if she even gives such a pathetic excuse for flopping. I can't stand artists who don;t deal with failure instead of finding excuses. Jivesh I refuse to talk to you if you continue making me want to hear 4 before the release date by resorting to torrent downloads. No can't do!! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I better go. Take care. Jivesh • Talk2Me 08:49, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Jivesh, he doesn't mean it that way! Lol, boy, you got all of us running :P Yup, I agree, I bet you thats going to be her "reason", you'll see.. I first thought about it when she publicly announced it to the world. I mean who the F does that? Britney didn't, Gaga didn't, so what gives! Its a clear indication of a set-up, and that its going to be her excuse for it!--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 08:54, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Jivesh, you should think about Suga Mama not be a Drama-mama! :P Well did Yonka announce about the leak to the world? I wasn't aware. What did she say? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Yup! Which is why I so think its a set-up. She announced on her Facebook that she's upset the music was presented in such a fashion, but happy the fans like it (umm, who?) lol. Sources even took notice. Billboard, Entertainment Weekly, MTV. Her exact post read "My music was leaked and while this is not how I wanted to present my new songs, I appreciate the positive response from my fans. When I record music I always think about my fans singing every note and dancing to every beat. I make music to make people happy and I appreciate that everyone has been so anxious to hear my new songs." Umm,, what is she smoking? lol--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 09:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I dont think she will debut with 400K number this time though, may be they plan to re-rekease or something? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Legolas, my friend, i mean our friend has replied you here. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey thanks for notifying me Jivvu. Efe is one of my oldest friends on Wiki. Really good guy. :) — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes i know. I have known him. And we chat from time to time. He likes Beyonce a lot, like me. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

He is really one of the nicest persons i have ever known here. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Yep and he promoted the first range of Bee topics to FA, I was so happy to see them promoted that I started to work on "4 Minutes". — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I told you all that way before Avi. He is my inspiration. I have started editing after noticing his great work on B articles. Anyway, how are you doing? I know you are fine, what i want to know is whether you can use your hand and leg? Have you recovered completely? Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Not 100%, maybe 80. I'm walking with a stick now, another 6 weeks till i recover fully. My left hand is stll bent a little and that would take time. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:49, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I hope you have a supportive wife. If yes, you are really lucky man. Hmmmmm, walking with a stick. Reminds me of my late grandfather. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Like a Virgin/Into The Groove image

Hey I saw you removed the image of into The groove i Posted on the LAV article and i also saw your message saying that it won't be accepted what do you mean by that?? Also I posted that image in that for that particular section because i feel we need one that is facing towards the right or if not then change the quote box to the left and change the image that is already there to the right so it faces to the right. What do you think??-MindyHall (talk) 23:13, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

My point was with the Freedom of PAnorama policy of Wikimedia Commons. The image displays a substantial amount of the background video, which is copyrighted per FOP. Same images were just deleted from Commons not even a month ago, and these will face the same fate as well. And images face towards the article not away from it. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:24, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey I uploaded these 2 pictures of the same "ITG" performance and I was thinking if we could use any of these, since you can hardly see the backdrop images. What do you think??

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--MindyHall (talk) 15:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Nice images, but the present images we have in the articles are of much, much higher resolution and front-faced than the ones uploaded. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

So..That's a no? :S--MindyHall (talk) 15:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)