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suggest campaign as alternative to embassy article AFDs

Hi LibStar (and Stalwart111) -- Libstar, you opened AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of Bulgaria, Chișinău and many others about mini-stub embassy articles, and Stalwart111 has participated in many/most of those. (And about a year ago, if i recall, there were a whole lot of London embassy AFDs, I think involving all 3 of us though i am not checking.) I commented at the Chisinau AFD and at some others that redirecting to bilateral relations articles (or moving/creating such articles if necessary, leaving redirect) would be preferable in my view to deleting the mini-stub. Especially I think the repeated AFDs are wasteful of editor attention. Also User:Stalwart111 has often advocated in favor of merging or redirecting to a list-article listing embassies, or to bilateral relations articles. I do respect your basic view that most/all of the embassy articles you target in AFDs are inadequate. And I respect Stalwart111's views too

How about the three of us work on a campaign to create or develop the list-articles / bilateral relations articles, and skip the AFDs? I think that could be more productive in terms of building wikipedia. It could accomplish the merges/redirects and avoid cost of AFDs to us and to other editors.

Could you possibly agree, and possibly provide direction on how/where best to start? I'd basically be happy to work together in any coordinated way. I am handicapped slightly by having an editing restriction (which perhaps i ought to appeal) that prevents me from starting new articles in mainspace, but I can start articles in Draft space and I can create sections and add to list-articles and so on.

sincerely, --doncram 16:24, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

thanks for your thoughts, if we are going to start creating new bilateral articles I would prefer to do only more notability combinations and not be driven by existing poor stubs that could be deleted if redirected to a new bilateral m for example, someone went on a spree of creating embassies in Moldova and someone else did missions of Tanzania, these are not the most notable. LibStar (talk) 22:31, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I would agree to working on the more notable bilateral relations topics first. Is there a list-article with red-links to work on, or could we create one in userspace and work from that? I see there is navigation template {{Foreign relations of Europe}} which has links to a foreign relations article for each country in Europe, including Moldova. There is Category:Bilateral relations of Moldova among about 220 members by country of Category:Bilateral relations. The Moldova category has subcategories, some with a bilateral relations article and some with just some embassies but no bilateral relations article. What is needed? To check each subcategory within each "Bilateral relations of X" category, and build a worklist of apparently-missing bilateral relations articles? --doncram 23:57, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Kenya–Mongolia relations

Please explain why you've nominated the article for deletion. The Foreign relations of Mongolia page also shows that relations between both countries were formed on March 22 2012 even though the link is dead. The link belongs to the Mongolian Foreign Affairs Ministry. If it was edited and put there it means that the relations do exist.

--Nairobi123 (talk) 14:42, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

having relations is not the same as having notable relations. LibStar (talk) 23:42, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

• Speaking of notability: I just saw List of entertainers who have performed at the Mall of Asia, but too late. We are rapidly becoming a collection of lists. You referenced Events at Madison Square Garden, with a comment on "most significant events"--but most of those entries are without a reference, and at any rate it is hard (here), if not impossible, to establish "significant". An analogy with other lists (of "notable people") would be that the event needs its own article, but fighting for something like that is an uphill struggle. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:38, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Albanian Ambassador to Saudi Arabia

Hi, I didn't delete Albanian Ambassador to Saudi Arabia because it's not an article. It's a redirect to Albanian Ambassador to the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, which wasn't on the list of articles nominated for deletion. If you want to nominate the latter for deletion and it get deleted after discussion, then the redirect will go with it. Regards -- KTC (talk) 10:24, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Oralnipplescience

This user who has had all previous posts reverted, is at it again.Fleet Lists (talk) 21:34, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

requesting closure for AfDs

No, not really any changes. From the beginning, this page has been meant for unusual requests, generally things that really really need to be closed and really really shouldn't be left for a while. Someone will eventually close an XFD of any sort; the only things that need to be mentioned here are the occasional emergency and the notes from admins saying "I already got most of these; someone else get the rest". See the "Severe backlog at WP:ANRFC" section of WP:AN — the continuous addition of routine requests has overwhelmed this page and gotten in the way of people taking action on things that really do need attention. Nyttend (talk) 15:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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That's what we have DRV for, but...

Did you know this nonsense had been re-created? St★lwart¹¹¹ 00:40, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Userpage

I enjoy your userpage, especially the arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Also, I have to agree with all of your "Country-Country relations" deletion requests. Jackninja5 (talk) 13:08, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

thanks! LibStar (talk) 13:17, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

No problem. Jackninja5 (talk) 13:25, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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Indeed, I'm still around, and I appreciate your work on the bilaterals. One suggestion, however: where it's feasible, you should consider redirects. Find obscure bilateral articles that no one cares about, tag them for merger, and a few weeks and no objections later, quietly redirect to "Foreign relations of X". Yes, the potential will still exist that the article is recreated somewhere down the line, but this method avoids a tiresome discussion and a "keep" outcome that solidifies the article's position. - Biruitorul ^Talk 15:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Why do you think that I am editing that page? Are you really that dim? And it is you that is removing factual information and replacing it with inaccurate information. A question for you...why are you so interested in this page? Tokyo Oz (talk) 01:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Ambassadors AFD

Hi, when you made Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ambassador of Iceland to Mauritius you forgot to add individual AfD templates to each page. The individual articles also should probably use {{la}}. WP:BUNDLE is the instructions if you need them; or I'll try and help you fix them when I have time. I think User:TheMesquito is also fixing some of them. — kikichugirl ^speak up! 07:22, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Discussion at Bangladesh

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Armenia–Serbia relations

Thank you for fixing the article. I'd like to contact you when I need some help around this sort of articles, that is, if you allow me to do so. Also, can you make a map, like other articles that deal with bilateral relations have...?

I have in mind to make this article GA. The relations between Armenia and Serbia aren't complex at all, so it's easier to write an article about them. Can you tell me what a good article on bilateral relations should contain? --Yerevani Axjik (talk) 23:54, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Talkback re: Heiðrik á Heygum

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Serious suggestion

I am just popping by to suggest that a lot of the AfD's you are filing would work a lot better- and quieter - as merge discussions. As someone who had a couple of successful AfD's wind up being recreated every couple of years, I found that merging and redirecting often is a better option. Many times, the work - if decent - someone put into a small article can easily be copied over to a list article or something of that sort. The ambassadors in particular seem to be good candidates for this. Also saves other people the work of having to recreate lists from scratch. Some of my frustration with AfD is knowing that it is far easier to tear down than to build up and I hate to see the work of others simply deleted. Montanabw^(talk) 19:30, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Santander Airport

Sorry for writing here, I can´t find a way to send a private message. So my apologies. Anyway, I do not agree on your criteria on keep deleting that information regarding the Santander Airport. What you keep deleting are facts, relevant for those who want information about the airport, plus is part of the modifications done after the last renovation works carried in the terminal. I do not care other airport pages do not have it. What is more, the spanish version of the page has that info. Please if there is a way to keep this discussion private, let me know. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakobsenuco (talk • contribs) 09:16, 20 May 2015 (UTC) Thank you for your suggestion of editing more content, so far I do, but in Spanish. I am interested in providing as much information as possible in the page of Santander Airport because it is the airport of my town and it needs to be well known. The renovation works were a landmark by adding those things that you keep on deleting from the article. I doubt that for you it is relevant, but for those of us that care about that airport in particular, it is. So please lets reach an agreement about that content.Jakobsenuco (talk) 19:17, 25 May 2015 (UTC) Precisely you should apply that rule about ownership. Who are you to keep deleting that information? Who are you to decide if it is relevant or not?. I am editing other articles, but not in English, and the fact that you edit more than others does not give you the power to decide if 300 characters are relevant or not. It will be good if you yield a bit in this case. That information is relevant and real.Jakobsenuco (talk) 16:23, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

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Why did you revert the changes I made to the Exhibition stadium page back to an incorrect link?. And none of the information was incorrect, it was exactly the same as it is shown on The Big Event page.HoldenV8 (talk) 17:24, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Interesting that you choose not to answer why as a moderator of this online Encyclopedia that you would revert something back to what is incorrect information.

I will admit that I had a bad habit of just saving changes and not giving a brief explanation of things. But that it is something in the past and its not something I am doing now. And not everything can be verified by information on another website or a book or magazine so a reference isn't always possible.HoldenV8 (talk) 23:54, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I have no problem adding sources to previous changes if there are sources to use. Though it still doesn't answer why you would revert something back to incorrect information rather than keep what is correct. If you had bothered to check the facts you would have found that the information I put on the Exhibition Stadium page was correct. The page Big Event doesn't even exist on Wikipedia (hence it is in red) which is why I changed it to The Big Event which is what the World Wrestling Federation's event at the venue in August 1986 was called. The rest of the information I put in which you changed back is there in the infobox and the opening paragraph of The Big Event page. You can also find the information on various pro wrestling websites and presumably the WWE's own site.HoldenV8 (talk) 01:24, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm arguing about it because what I changed it to was the correct information and that can be verified by a page that already exists on this site, the very page I changed the link to show. What you changed it back to was incorrect information. I would have thought that you would want the correct information to be used on Wikipedia. The question I ask is why was it changed back to the incorrect information that existed?

Verified or not, I have never knowingly put false information on this web site. Yes there have been a LOT of times that I have changed information without adding an explanation why or without adding a reference that can verify the information given, behaviour that I am changing, but everything I have put onto Wikipedia has been correct to the best of my knowledge.HoldenV8 (talk) 03:49, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

FYI

By the way I challenged the closure of the article you nominated for deletion: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2015 July 5#Azerbaijan.E2.80.93Bangladesh relations - I have no idea why it was closed as no consensus after only one week, especially considering the competency level/lame arguments of some of the contributors ("you're saying that means the countries aren't notable!"). —Мандичка^YO 😜 07:34, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

thanks LibStar (talk) 11:53, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

1998–2002 Argentine great depression

{{Cn}} documentation reads "This template is intended for specific passages that need citation. For entire articles or sections that contain significant material lacking sources (rather than just specific short passages), there are other, more appropriate templates, such as {{Unreferenced}} or {{Refimprove}}." I don't see the reason for you to overtag the article. There are a number of unsourced paragraphs there, why don't you tag them as well?--Jetstreamer ^Talk 14:48, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

it is not overtagging but common practice in my years in Wikipedia, in fact you're the first ever person to remove tags on uncited statements. I will tag other uncited paragraphs if you desire. Otherwise I will remove uncited statements under WP:BURDEN. LibStar (talk) 14:54, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Having {{cn}} tags and also a {{morerefs}} tag at the top of the article is a redundancy. But I do agree that one-by-one tagging of unsourced paragraphs is more useful for it permits identifying them as such and to remove them if nobody adds a reference after some time. I'm removing the {{morerefs}} from the top.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:07, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I agree. Thanks for your cooperation. LibStar (talk) 16:17, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

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Antigua Guatemala

Hi LibStar. I have added a external link to Wikivoyage in the "External Links" section of Antigua Guatemala. You will find there all the information there is to know for transportation and travel for this location. Regards, --Nerdoguate (talk) 18:04, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

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Ok, why did you change that one? What, even references not good enough now?HoldenV8 (talk) 17:15, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

If you actually watch the clip provided, the commentator (James Hunt) actually says exactly that, that Piquet was signed by Benetton on a performance based contract. This is also said on Piquet's Wikipedia page in the sub-section "Benetton (1990–91)"

It wasn't a rumour though, it was fact. Benetton signed Piquet on a performance based contract for 1990 that paid him per point scored. As I said, the information is also on Piquet's Wikipedia page so its not like I'm putting something on this site that hasn't already been put there before.HoldenV8 (talk) 18:57, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Because at the time (the 1989 Italian GP), the specifics of Piquet's Benetton contract were only rumours. Those rumours were later confirmed by Benetton team boss Flavio Briatore and by Piquet himself. But it was at Monza that Piquet confirmed why he was leaving Lotus (intended use of the Lamborghini V12 in 1990 - There is a YouTube video of Piquet at Monza on EuroSport TV that weekend confirming it) and announced he was joining Benetton. I'm not putting in anything that isn't true and I'm sure I can come up with more sources than just YouTube. But, until I can find those (which shouldn't be hard because I have seen a few, its just a matter of re-locating them) I won't put the info back onto the 1989 Italian GP page.HoldenV8 (talk) 05:28, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Trent Zimmerman

Please reconsider the deletion of this bio. Given the comment in this yesterday's Sydney Morning Herald (below) I'm sure many people will be looking for information on this notable political figure.

"The current NSW Liberal Party president, Trent Zimmerman is the front runner to replace Mr Hockey in the seat of North Sydney, with the moderate faction claiming a strong hold on the numbers in local branches.

No date has been set for a byelection yet but insiders were not ruling out a factional battle over the preselection, with predictions the Right faction would resist Mr Zimmerman taking the plum seat.

Mr Zimmerman is a long time mover and shaker in the so called 'wet' faction of the Liberals both in state executive and behind the scenes. He has worked for Mr Hockey as a staffer and is currently a senior policy adviser at the lobby group, Tourism and Transport Forum (TTF). He is openly gay and is the current state president of the party."

14:49, 5 February 2015 Deor (talk | contribs) deleted page Trent Zimmerman (per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trent Zimmerman)

Castlemate (talk) 22:55, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

All I put in there about Ivan Cleary was his statistics while playing for Manly Warringah in the early 1990's. And there is already reference to that in the players infobox and with the link to the site Rugby League Project. But I'll be nice and put in the reference.....again.HoldenV8 (talk) 20:31, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Do you have a problem with Faroese people?

Hello. You have nominated two articles about Faroese people for deletion, and this is not the first time. The two persons are the prize winning film instructor Heiðrik á Heygum who won both Faroese film prizes in 2014 and has earlier won a Nordic film prize also. The other person you wish to be expelled from the English Wikipedia is the Island Games winner, the cyclist Torkil Veyhe. I am just wondering, if you have something against Faroese people? EileenSanda (talk) 12:33, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

no. And the question in your heading is not assuming good faith. You will see that I nominate a variety of articles for deletion from different countries. We don't expel articles from Wikipedia. They must meet notability criteria. LibStar (talk) 14:17, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

And you have already decided, that people who win a competition in the Island Games are not notable, and peole who win a national championship in a small nation like the Faroe Islands are not notable, and people who win a Faroese film prize (or two) are not notable and people who win a Nordic film prize for young film directors are not notable? EileenSanda (talk) 14:34, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

LibStar nominated the articles for deletion but it is not they who decide whether an article is deleted. It is the consensus of the editors who participate in the AfD discussion as determined by the closing editor or admin. The best way to contest these nominations is not to argue with their nomination but to argue why these articles should be kept at the AfD discussions. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 14:39, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Well said Liz. Eileen, if you're trying to discourage me from nominating articles for deletion it won't work. LibStar (talk) 15:15, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

I know that Liz, and I have also said what I mean in the relevant pages. I have created an article about the Faroese film prize Geytin, but all the recipients have red links except for Heiðrik á Heygum, which Libstar has nominated for deletion. It just seem like there is no point in writing anyting in the English Wikipedia about Faroese artists or sports people, if the articles are deleted because the Faroe Islands is a small nation and because it is a small nation you think that people from there are not notable. How would Heiðrik á Heygum be notable, if he is not notable after winning the Geytin prize and the NUFF prize? Does he need to get an Oscar nomination in order to be notable enough for the English Wikipedia? EileenSanda (talk) 15:36, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

if you want to discuss the article's notability , discuss it at the AfD. Please stop discussing it here. LibStar (talk) 15:51, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

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I would have thought that the link pointing to a scan of an actual Speedway Park Program showing exactly what was added to the page would have been sufficient. But, if its not I'll accept it and try and find one not on Facebook.HoldenV8 (talk) 07:46, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

no, anyone can post anything on Facebook. It could be real but there is nothing to verify its authenticity LibStar (talk) 08:00, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Brief note

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Follow up on old withdrawn group AfD

Hi LibStar, A couple years ago you nominated for deletion a group of articles - dubiously notable diplomats - created by a blocked and banned sockpuppet. You withdrew the nomination when evidence turned up that one might actually be notable. It sounds like you intended to relist the others separately, but Amir Hussain Sikder doesn't appear to have been renominated. Are you still of a mind to, or did you see something that made you think he was notable after all?

Only one of the two sources cited actually mentions him, and it's only a reprint of the government press release announcing his appointment. When he was the Bangladeshi ambassador to Russia, he seems to have had concurrent accreditation to several neighboring countries: Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, and Ukraine. Each time he presented his credentials there was a press release from the government involved, but nothing beyond routine coverage, nothing independent. Worldbruce (talk) 08:26, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Userpage

I can't see what the point of maintaining that section of your userpage is - especially as you know it is upsetting another user who you hve butted heads with in the past. It is improperly attributed too so I have removed it. I hope you don't try to push the point and restore it. Thanks. Spartaz ^Humbug! 19:24, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

it does not identify the user. I also have statements from other users on my user page not attributed to individual editors LibStar (talk) 05:17, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Then remove them as they are incorrectly attributed according to our license. Spartaz ^Humbug! 07:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

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Bob Batty

FYI on information given about Bob Batty.....

• The website Rugby League Project (plus various other websites) and the book "The Sea Eagle Has Landed" both state that Batty came to Manly-Warringah from Murwillumbah. The book also states that he was known as the 'Road Runner'.
• Bob Batty's playing statistics, including his Reserve Grade playing stats, are also cited in the book.

If you had actually bothered to check then you would have found this rather than just adding a 'citation needed'. In fact, other than that under the heading "Death", everything on that page can be found in "The Sea Eagle Has Landed".HoldenV8 (talk) 05:32, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Re: Bob Batty

I'm not expecting others to do it for me. I've already done the research and cited references including a book which happens to be regarded by the club itself as the official history book of the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles (up to 1991). I'm saying before you go and put in a 'citation needed', actually check that there are citations needed. There were none needed as the references to the information given were supplied.HoldenV8 (talk) 10:27, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Re: Bob Batty

I'm not making any claims can't be backed up with evidence. Everything on that page can be verified through the references given so I don't get why you've put in citation needed.HoldenV8 (talk) 11:56, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

I did respond. As I have previously told you, when I find the references to the information given in previous articles they will be included. Unfortunately this is often made harder if a website that could have confirmed the information has since shut down or something like the book or magazine that can confirm information isn't currently in my possession.

Now, the question I have for you is why all the 'citation needed' notes when the information can be confirmed with the references already given for the Bob Batty page? There are not any claims on the page that can't be verified by at least one of the references given. So I don't get why you have such a problem with it.HoldenV8 (talk) 12:49, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Brett Mullins

I actually watched that game on DVD not two hours ago and what I changed the information to was correct. Sorry if there is no evidence of it online anywhere (I've looked), but it is 100% fact (I'll even send you a copy of the DVD if you like.....). Regardless of your reasons, once again you've reverted something back to incorrect information.HoldenV8 (talk) 10:51, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Re: Brett Mullins

Do you know what you reverted it back to was correct? Where is your source that tells you that?HoldenV8 (talk) 10:59, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm being serious. You revert something back to what is incorrect yet you have no source of reference to say that what you are reverting it back to is correct.HoldenV8 (talk) 11:03, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

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If I didn't know any better I would say you're stalking everything I do on hereHoldenV8 (talk) 01:14, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

And at every turn...there you are ready to pounce on anything. Its like you're on a personal crusade against anything I do here. You've even given me a warning for a personal attack that wasn't and had absolutely nothing to do with you. IIRC you also gave me a warning when I called you out on a point. Rather than actually answer it, you simply accused me of playing games and proceeded to give me a warning. For the past 2 or so years you have basically stalked everything I've done on here.HoldenV8 (talk) 03:37, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Stalking

I'm starting to believe that you ARE stalking me on here.HoldenV8 (talk) 07:34, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

I know I have done a lot of things wrong on here to say the least. But what you are doing is in basic terms....harassment.HoldenV8 (talk) 07:38, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Curious, why did you remove the team lists from the 2016 Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles season page??HoldenV8 (talk) 05:38, 19 March 2016 (UTC) Edit re 2016 Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles season: Forget that, just found why. No drama.HoldenV8 (talk) 05:48, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Taipei offices

Hi, I'd be prepared to merge Taipei Representative Office in Italy and Italian Economic, Trade and Cultural Promotion Office into Italy–Taiwan relations, but don't want to do so unilaterally as you've labelled it AfD.

I created the Italy–Taiwan relations page (sorry I got the name order wrong, I did wonder) as it seemed better for detailing relations between Italy (Taiwan's fifth largest trading partner in Europe) and Taiwan (the fifth largest economy in Asia) - hardly on a par with 'France-Nauru relations'. :)

There are many de jure embassies which are even less deserving of pages on Wikipedia, like the Embassy of East Timor, London, which, arguably, shouldn't even exist in the first place, and is probably one of the ones that its former President favours being closed down. By contrast, many de facto ones, like the American Institute in Taiwan do merit their own entries.

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Random comment

Hi, As a bit of a random comment regarding your recent AfDs of articles on consuls, you could buttress your case by noting that these positions are generally held by relatively junior and hence low-profile diplomats. There can be a tendency for people to assume that people in charge of diplomatic posts are always highly ranked, when this isn't the case at all. Lots of Australian ambassadors run small teams during rotations to their department's head office for example, and consuls are even less highly-ranked. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 06:49, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

thanks good point LibStar (talk) 06:52, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

AfDs

Don't bulk nominate entire areas of topics regardless of sourcing or try to use AfD to force editors in areas you're not interested in to expand articles on notable topics at gunpoint for shits and giggles and I won't have to criticise you for shitty behaviour. The Drover's Wife (talk) 05:32, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

personal attack and WP:ADHOM if I ever saw it. LibStar (talk) 16:12, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

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The Academics section on page National_Institute_of_Technology,_Hamirpur represents the facts about the different programs offered by the institution and admission process. You recently removed the academics section from this page. I do not understand why the content was removed and how it failed to follow Wikipedia Guidelines. Maybe I am missing something, can you please elaborate on why this content was inappropriate for the page?

Hi there, just wanted to clarify the terms you're using to classify alumni as "notable" on the Westcliff High School for Girls site. Amy Licence is the author of 12 books and has appeared in 2 TV documentaries. She was considered "notable" enough to be invited back in 2014 to address the school on prize giving day, so would just like to know where this doesn't fit the definition of "notable." Happy to remove her name if you can say she isn't, just interested to know why you removed her from the alumni there. Many thanks, TH. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:C570:DC00:2CAC:C71:91BD:3D83 (talk) 11:09, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

hi

hi what's wrong with merely notifying someone that an article that we have both worked on has been nominated for deletion? Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 08:50, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

And they are in season, so not trucked from the far side of the planet. I enjoyed your homepage. Made me laugh. Now I'm back to writing yet another article about a K-Pop wannebee from 2007, or possibly the contents of my sock drawer. TheLongTone (talk) 13:18, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

thanks! LibStar (talk) 16:25, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

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Notable people

Why do you feel a source is not required? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:11, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

look at any city article... the individual's article should contain reference to being from that city. LibStar (talk) 16:13, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure what policy that conforms to. It seems to go against BLP. Going that way, editors would continually need to check the city's article, laboriously clicking through every individual name to find whether their article contains a sourced reference to where that person is from. It's a bit bonkers, isn't it? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:22, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I have edited hundreds of city articles, I'd say 95% of them don't have citations in notable people section. Secondly the tag has been there for over 4 years and there has been little action for it. LibStar (talk) 16:25, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

If someone is not from that city , simply remove it from the notable people section. Also you'll have to go through the 100s of 1000s of city articles and add citations. That's very laborious. LibStar (talk) 16:26, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Most BLP work is very laborious, but it's one of most important policies. It's not a reason to ride roughshod over it. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:30, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

help with uploading the map of india nicaragua locator

I need to insert this image (File:India nicaragua locator.png) on the page India-Nicaragua relations. Could you help me out with this upload as ur the only other wikieditor who edited the page. the image file is located on en.wikipedia. Sufyanxtreme (talk) 14:24, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Ubiquiti Networks

Hi, although I support keeping the Ubiquiti Networks article (having spent a lot of time on it), I think that some of the other three supporters may possibly be paid, or otherwise have some connection to the company. Ubiquiti has repeatedly engaged in PR editing of the article (adding marketing language, removing negative information), and I wouldn't put it past them to stack the AfD. On the other hand, the users do appear to have large contribution histories, except User:Callsignpink, who only joined on the day of the AfD. I don't know what (if anything) to do about this, but I just thought that I would let you know. Orthogonal1 (talk) 22:28, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

You can't win them all.

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Just a simple observation not a 'personal attack' but I guess that's your personal opinion. Dan arndt (talk) 14:26, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

As I indicated its just an observation... Dan arndt (talk) 14:32, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

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Ambassadors/High Commissioners

I agree that we are never going to agree on many subjects/issues but I accept that there are many articles on diplomats, whom editors believe just because they are a diplomat they are notable. You might want to check out List of Sri Lankan non-career diplomats or Category:Sri Lankan diplomats. Dan arndt (talk) 07:41, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Zambrero

You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:06, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andorran ambassador to Spain and the embassy gap in WP:ORG

So I've just closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andorran ambassador to Spain and I take it that articles about non-notable diplomatic missions are a pet peeve of yours. :) Should we work together to bring something to Wikipedia talk:Notability (organizations and companies) to address the blindspot there? 10:36, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

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Embassies

Are embassies such as Embassy of the State of Palestine in Japan inherently notable? Dan arndt (talk) 15:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

embassies are not inherently notable. An embassy article that merely confirms it exists is not notable in my opinion. Someone has created a whole heap of palestine embassy stubs. LibStar (talk) 15:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Courtesy?

Whilst not required by policy, a good sense of decency would have meant that you notify the creator of the DFO Moorabbin article -- at its nomination for deletion. Obviously, that notion must have escaped you. Whilst I accept the results -- I think it would have been appropriate that my input be heard -- hence, being notified would have been appreciated. Regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 07:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Equator Academy of Art

Hello LibStar. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Equator Academy of Art, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: It's a case of reverse copyvio - their site got it from us. Thank you. Primefac (talk) 16:14, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Your deletions

Hi, While I do not mind your email, and if it is you would like something referenced is fine, but perhaps you could contact the author and ask for something to be referenced without simply deleting their work. It is disrespectful. Like I have done on occasion, you also have the option of doing a tiny bit of research yourself, and finding that something is accurate, leave well alone. Not everything needs to be referenced.

Likewise leave open the option that someone might be new to the site and while they have information to offer, may not be yet proficient in the workings of text loading, editing and up loading. If you see something that could be improved or done differently again, offer assistance, rather then just head for the delete button. This could include doing something better, or even adding a reference if you think necessary.

Regards SWDriver (talk) 12:42, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

any statement can be challenged by WP:BURDEN. the onus is on the person adding the info to cite statements. LibStar (talk) 02:41, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

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Hospital Escuela Eva Perón

If you don't mind, I merged and redirected Hospital Escuela Eva Perón into Granadero Baigorria. Bearian (talk) 17:47, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

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Notable peope

Hello Libstar. Reverting my addition of Thomas Wall to the list of notable people with connections to Sutton, you indicated that having a WP page defines someone as notable. Is this laid down anywhere, or just your opinion? If it is a rule, you must agree that it is a widely ignored one. A quick check showed me that more than half the lists of notables connected to towns, schools or universities contained people in this category. If it's your opinion, I respectfully disagree. Someone may well deserve a WP page, but not have one, without being any less worthy. Thomas Wall is probably one of these people. --OhNoPeedyPeebles (talk) 12:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grand Caribe Resort

I also think you should notify article creators, certainly if they create out of good faith. Drmies (talk) 05:02, 22 April 2017 (UTC)