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Reproductive rights

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Can you add a reference to your section on the The Yogyakarta Principles in the reproductive rights article? please.--SasiSasi (talk) 13:07, 27 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

My article is only baces on the text of The Yogyakarta Principles, this is written in the Principle 9, section (b). But I reget the lack of enough knowledge of proper way of citation. Yet I only write down the sentences relating on this matter in the article of the reproductive rights.--LilyKitty (talk) 15:07, 28 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Welcome! again

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Could you tell us a little about yourself? Where do you live? Are you Japanese? Greenmaven (talk) 13:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Hello, Greenmaven. As you guess, I am Japanese, and I live in Japan through I cannot tell the information much becuase of my personal security and my worse health condition. --LilyKitty (talk) 14:10, 15 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Speedy deletion nomination of International Association of Gay and Lesbian Esperantists

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I made this article for an introduction of this association according to its official site taking account of importance of universal LGBT rights, though I am not still an esperantist. I feel regret fo the deletion yet I hope that this article would be remade with tolerant cooperation of other users who are good at Esperanto. --LilyKitty (talk) 13:14, 6 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Now I thank dear Panyd, the administrator, for understanding the importance of this Article. Despite my ability for information technology, I would like to do my best as possible for improvement of articles in general. --LilyKitty (talk) 13:14, 6 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

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I decide to accept your invitation, knowning the significant meaning of the Project. Yet becuase I myself have disabilties (mental) and with my worse health condition and my own gender status, I cannot know that I could contribute well the Project. However despite little I would like to do my best, mainly on the view of international human rights law. Thank you for your invitation, dear Roger--LilyKitty (talk) 16:15, 11 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hello, thank you for the message about disambiguation links. the tolerance in the article Repressive Tolerance means "Toleration" and I will reedit for the disambiguation.--LilyKitty (talk) 15:36, 17 November 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Hello, thank you for the message. The word "workplace" has diverse meaning because International Labour Conventions by ILO deal all aspects of labour's rights. However taking account of main problems on workplace, such as discrimination, bulling or empowerment, understood in international standard, I will add this such as "workplace discrimination" and "workplace empowerment".

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Hello. The "intolerance" at this article is similar to religious intolerance, however taking account of inclusion of the political sense, I will prefer the "toleration" inclundig the explication of "intolerance" in this meaning. Thank you.--LilyKitty (talk) 08:19, 30 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
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Thank you for the award. I'd like to do my best for LGBT community and LGBT rights as much as possible.--LilyKitty (talk) 15:01, 26 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Hi, I took the liberty to edit your Finnish userpage by improving the Finnish. I hope you don't have anything against it, feel free to revert if you want. K9re11. (talk) 16:32, 10 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hello, K9re11. Thank you for improving my page in Finnish.--LilyKitty (talk) 08:25, 11 March 2015 (UTC)Reply
Along with Finnish, Swedish is also my mother tongue, and I understand also Danish and Norwegian, so I can improve those text also, if you want. I'm glad if I can help. K9re11 (talk) 13:36, 11 March 2015 (UTC)Reply
I thank for your kindness. Because I still not have enough ability for those language, I approve and welcome your help.--LilyKitty (talk) 14:46, 11 March 2015 (UTC)Reply
Now I've improved your userpages in several languages. Though your Finnish, for example, contains many errors, I am impressed of how you can express yourself in so many languages. I wish you good luck with LBGT-related things, human rights and other things, which I also am interested in and support, and good luck with your life outside Wikipedia, too. Best regards, K9re11 (talk) 11:16, 12 March 2015 (UTC)Reply
Now I'd like to thank your improvement and understanding me on my idea to respect cultural and human diversity and to promote all human rights universally. Despite my poor ability and health condition, I like to try them and I also hope good luck with you inside and outside Wikipedia. Sincerely yours.--LilyKitty (talk) 14:02, 12 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Good faith

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Your recent addition to Good faith read:

The concept bona fide is also proclaimed by Magna Charta of original version.

I changed it to:

The concept of bona fide is also proclaimed by the original version of the Magna Charta.

I assume that was your intended meaning, but I am largely unfamiliar with the Magna Charta and other British law.

Just wanted to check with you. Godsy(TALKCONT) 00:41, 9 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your contribution with proper correction. Your change is just. Though I was embarrassed by existence of several version of Magna Carta and gap between original Latin text and English translation, I find bona fide in Magna Carta to correspond with "good faith" both in common law and public international law, as much as I can investigate.--LilyKitty (talk) 06:54, 9 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Reasonable accommodation

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How is the topic Reasonable accommodation a likely "see also" for Public accommodations? I see no connection other than they both use variants of the word "accommodation", albeit in difference senses. You may answer here. --Bejnar (talk) 05:24, 27 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

I did the edition above only out of relationality concerning anti-discrimination measure, rather than the etymological meaning of "accommodation" mutandis mutatis. Please forgive me if not proper in conformity with rule of Wikipedia's editing. --LilyKitty (talk) 07:24, 27 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
Reasonable accommodation is more appropriately a crossreference for disability law, than for public accomodations law, although public accomodations are covered by the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990. The question under public accomodations law is a yes/no one, namely: "Does the facility provide public accomodations." If so, then the issues become ones of different areas of law such as disability. racial discrimination, OSHA, etc. --Bejnar (talk) 19:27, 27 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
Tkank you for a imformation of legal aspect. This contribute my knowledge on disability studies, as well as anti-discrimination law.--LilyKitty (talk) 07:49, 28 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

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I would like to consider carefully to make pu my own answer, but my main aim to participate the WikiProject Disability is to protect, to promote and to raise awareness all human rights, both civil and political rights and economic, social and cultural rights of person with disabilities. I'm sure that the full implementation of Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (CRPD) is most important but promotion of any other international human rights instruments as series of international human rights law is also integral to this.
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It is my mentioning relating to the interview, rather than a question.--LilyKitty (talk) 16:56, 22 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Thanks for informations. I'd like then to write my conclusion on the interview page above.--LilyKitty (talk) 12:35, 24 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Hi - I saw you inserted Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis into Georg Hegel's main ideas. This is erroneously attributed to Hegel and actually originated with Johann Fichte, another German Idealist. Thank you for your good faith edit though! 69.141.201.195 (talk) 20:24, 13 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hello. Thank you for the information. Through Joann Fichte left works on thesis-antithesis-synthesis first as German Idealist, I also find another origin from ancient Greek philosopher. I'd like to investigate on this including with relation German Artile Triade.--LilyKitty (talk) 06:09, 14 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

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I would like, if you can add Social Work Article to your watch-list. Any attempts towards article improvement are thwarted and talk page legacy of the editors also doesn't farewell. Checking the current reversions of cited material without edit summaries is proof. I am not going to engage into anymore reversions. But the article calls for sedulous and tough editors attention to stop detrimental actions.117.213.20.27 (talk) 10:08, 27 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

I have done your request. I hope that the article will be protected and promoted as a part of economic, social and cultural rights, in accordance with international human rights instruments, treaties and norms.--LilyKitty (talk) 12:44, 27 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
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Many thanks for information.--LilyKitty (talk) 07:12, 22 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Alessandro Achillini date

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Here, you changed Achillini's date of birth from 29 October to 20 October. Britannica (both 1911 and the latest version) have 29, as does Matsen. Do you have a better source; if so, can you cite it? Otherwise, I'll revert. David Brooks (talk) 02:30, 1 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello, David Brooks. I've edited this on basis of Italian encyclopedia [1]. The difference from Encyclopaedia Britannica, I think, causes out of Old Style and New Style dates. Please excuse me if my citation were not correct.--LilyKitty (talk) 06:17, 1 December 2016 (UTC)Reply
Ah, thanks. My problem was the lack of a reference, but the Dizionario does look authoritative, so thanks for pointing it out to me. That's an interesting guess about O.S./N.S., although his birth was over 100 years before 1582. Because this is speculation, I've added it to the talk page, rather than as a footnote. I've edited Alessandro Achillini to reflect the different sources; take a look.
I'm impressed by your userpage. What is your first language? (presumably not Latin!) I noticed the quote from the War Requiem, which I know well having studied it in the 60's and sang in 1973. Of course, the words are Owen's: s:The Next War :-) . David Brooks (talk) 18:59, 1 December 2016 (UTC)Reply
Many thanks for your editing of the article Alessandro Achillini and relating comments. It is difficult to say may first language but my working languages relating to my studies and Wikipedia de facto are English and French. (Despite my native language is Japanese and the most frequently using language is English.) I've tried to change my first language into Latin (together with Esperanto) because of language diversity and neutrality to avoid linguistic imperialism.
About "War Requiem" of Benjamin Britten, I've known through works (including Symphony No. 14) of Dmitri Shostakovich, who was pacifist compositors, I feel.--LilyKitty (talk) 05:40, 2 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

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I will obey the rule of Wikipedia, however I cannot understand why the article "Yogyakarta Principles in Action" which I created has been nominated to deletion. I believe that the multilingual translations themselves in the article have notability in addition to an example of human rights defending. And I like to believe that this outcome were not out of homophobia or transphobia; if so I will retire from all English Wikipedia and shall recall universal boycott of Wikipedia projects.--LilyKitty (talk) 15:54, 10 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
Now I find the article to be arbitrary deleted in a manner antidemocratic and homophobic way without adequate discussion, technological help and even consensus of human rights experts. Thus if the article "Yogyakarta Principles in Action" will not be restored, I shall call boycott of all English Wikipedia.--LilyKitty (talk) 15:35, 2 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

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You're probably not aware but Days of the Year pages are no longer exempt from WP:V and direct sources are required for additions. For details see the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide. The article about the person you added to February 15 did not have any source that I could add to this page to back up your addition so this change has been reverted. Please do not restore it without providing a direct reliable source. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 23:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hello, Toddst1. I have added Karl Friedrich Schimper to the "Feburary 15" on ground of data "de:Karl Friedrich Schimper" at German Wikipedia. I will be aware rules of WP and add source, if necessary as much as I can.--LilyKitty (talk) 16:48, 16 February 2018 (UTC)Reply
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Hello, Toddst1. I tried to seek sources on article June 18 relating to Donald Keene and June 20 relating to United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development (Rio +10), but it rests still impossible those to add into articles on technological reason and because of my health conditions. I hope tolerance on this matter and kind help or aid among other users who are experts on this issues.--LilyKitty (talk) 14:34, 22 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

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...the Dutch phrase on your user page is wrong. I know, because I am Dutch. :-) Have a nice day, Manifestation (talk) 19:19, 8 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

I know this. But due to my health and mebtal condition, I could not amend this. I’d like to improve in the future, if possible. --LilyKitty (talk) 02:02, 9 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
I'm sorry to hear that. Here is the correct Dutch phrase. Google Translate isn't always accurate, but in this case, it is. Take care, Manifestation (talk) 11:18, 9 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the kind intruduction and consideration. I'd like to recover myself participate there again.--LilyKitty (talk) 17:48, 9 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

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And how about the other two (William Kaelin Jr. and Peter J. Ratcliffe) Nobel Prize winners? Boghog (talk) 18:53, 7 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

My editing was out of temporary infomation. Beacuse I'm not a specialist on this field, I hope toleration and kindful addition of detail infomation to relating articles, if necessary.--LilyKitty (talk) 15:47, 8 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

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@Deb: LillyKitty, what's it going to take to get you to cooperate on DOTY pages? I've tried to explain stuff to you (see [2]) and even resorted to warnings including final, but we're seeing crap like this. There's not much left to do short of blocking you to get your attention on this. Toddst1 (talk) 19:42, 21 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you for providing information on Wikipedia's guideline. I will take care of the issues above in editing articles.--LilyKitty (talk) 09:48, 12 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you for trying the link to song cycle, but it now looks as if "cycle" was explained, which we call "Easter egg". Do you have a better solution, perhaps? Also, it's not really a song cycle like Winterreise which tells a story. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:01, 20 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thany you for a suggestion. I consider the contents of whole articles including German Wipipedia on including Vier ernste Gesänge to a "song cycle", taking account of wilder meaning of the notion that also includes Das Lied von der Erde by Gunstav Mahler, originally composed as a choral symphony.--LilyKitty (talk) 03:56, 21 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

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