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italics philosophers

Cicerone può dirsi italiano? Tommaso D'Aquino può dirsi italiano e Pico della Mirandola? e Lucrezio? Eppure questi filosofi fanno parte della lista. Allora perché non Parmenide e i filosofi della Magna Grecia che sono nati nella penisola ed hanno influenzato tutta la filosofia della penisola italica? I greci della penisola greca chiamavano gli abitanti della Magna Grecia italioti Ἰταλιώτης/Ἰταλιῶται Italiōtai. Il titolo del paragrafo è Italics philosophers che non significa Italiani ma Italici. G.B. Vico nel De antiquissima italorum sapientia parla proprio della Magna Grecia come origine della cultura italica. Guardati questo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_philosophy oppure questo https://pantheon.world/profile/occupation/philosopher/country/italy/ Fronmar (talk) 00:34, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

ecco qui il testo di Vico dove il filosofo napoletano dimostra l'influenza della scuola eleatica e la particolarità italica di questa scuola filosofica file:///C:/Users/WINDOWS%2010/Downloads/De%20antiquissima%20italorum%20sapientia.pdf Fronmar (talk) 00:54, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

italici e greci poi condividono un patrimonio genetico comune che può far pensare a popoli molto simili https://www.lescienze.it/news/2017/05/25/news/antichi_flussi_genetici_sud_italia_grecia_balcani-3541291/

oppure questo

https://pikaia.eu/una-grande-famiglia-lungo-le-coste-del-mediterraneo/ Fronmar (talk) 01:10, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Capisci che filosofi italiani esistono solo dopo il 1861 cioè dopo l'unità d'Italia ma l'Italia come concetto idea e come cultura esisteva già da prima e i popoli della Magna Grecia appartenevano a questa cultura. Etruschi e Romani hanno modulato il loro alfabeto da quello greco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italiotes Fronmar (talk) 01:26, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Questo elenco intende includere solo filosofi "italiani".

Con il termine "italiano" o "italico" si intende qualcuno o qualcosa che è originario della regione Italia o che è direttamente collegato a qualcosa in Italia.

Ad esempio, esistono le lingue italiche, originarie dell'Italia, che sono ovviamente chiamate "italiche". Esistono però anche gli Etruschi, che nonostante non parlassero una lingua italica, sono comunque considerati un popolo italico.

Ma i popoli greci che hanno abitato l'Italia non sono nativi della terra, provengono da colonie e hanno mantenuto legami con le loro terre d'origine.

Non ha senso considerare "italiani" o "italici" i filosofi greci antichi che sono nati o che hanno risieduto in Italia. Infatti, per molti di questi filosofi greci antichi, le loro vere origini sono sconosciute. Limonizia (talk) 02:24, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

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