User talk:LindsayH/Archive 7

Please help to fix proper things

Please help to fix proper things and sources and move to main place this article,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Zarb-e-Sukhan_(Kulliyaat) . Thanks.Mediateamnews (talk) 15:35, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Signature Link

Thanks for the recognition. I will sound somewhat impaired but how do you do it? I tried several ways. Is it not just four of these '~'? Help would be appreciated. Rosser Gruffydd 20:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

CS1 error repairs and www stripping

I notice in many of your recent edits, your edit summary indicates that CS1 errors have been repaired when there has been no change affecting CS1 errors (insofar as I can tell).

I am also curious about the stripping of "www":

• Is there some WP guideline indicating that "www" should be removed under certain conditions even though it is an acceptable hostname in the url?
• Is this being stripped arbitrarily or only under specific conditions?

Here's the edit for which I specifically observed these issues: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fratton_Park&type=revision&diff=940799641&oldid=939505268

I note that modern versions of browsers (e.g. chrome) actually hide the "www" prefix, so while it looks like the url has been redirected to a domain that without the "www" prefix, this frequently isn't the case. This browser behavior can lead to an erroneous assumption that it has been redirected. Fabrickator (talk) 19:12, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi Fabrickator, thanks for the question. As far as why i strip the "www.", if you look at CS1 errors, this seems fairly clear that it doesn't belong in |title=, |chapter=, |publisher=, |work=, or the parameter i most commonly remove it from, |website=. As for the other part of your comment, you note that sometimes i don't repair CS1 errors when i say i do? The example you give isn't one of those ~ "www." was removed from four parameters there ~ so i'm not certain, but i suppose i could have accidentally allowed my default summary to go through without changing it; absent an example i can't be more specific or responsive. Happy days, Lindsay^Hello 19:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, LindsayH. Ha ha, I had overlooked the fact that these were changes to the "website" parameter rather than to "url", so it's not necessarily intended to be a clickable link. However, when I view the prior revision, I'm not seeing any "CS1" errors that got fixed by the edits (i.e. the presence of "www" does not seem to cause a CS1 error ... could I have a setting that shows CS1 errors selectively?

Also, would it be considered desirable to wikify this, e.g. "portsmouthfc.co.uk" to [[Portsmouth F.C.]] (notwithstanding the obvious additional complexity in any sort of automation script)? Fabrickator (talk) 21:03, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, what you point out is certainly strange. What i/Kahtar do is load the category CS1 errors: external links to run through. It currently holds some 14k articles, so it's a slow process (i've been doing it for several years; when i started there were over 35,000 articles in the category! Not that i have done all that reduction myself), but removing those red CS1 errors in the references is my main gnomic activity at the moment. As to why that article didn't show the errors, i don't know; it was certainly in the category as that's the only way i select articles for Kahtar to edit.

As for wikifying it, i think that generally if it is relevant, the website will be wlinked in the article already. I take a look around to a degree as i make these edits, and very frequently they are websites which really are not linked to the subject in enough of a manner that they require a wlink. Happy days, Lindsay^Hello 08:12, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

LindsayH, the affected articles had CS1 errors, but the "www" prefixes are not getting flagged as errors. An "insource:" search shows that there are over 300,000 articles with "website" values starting with "www".

As for wikilinking in citations, per WP:CT: It is expected that a reference citation includes wikilinks to the relevant article for the source, such as ''[[The New York Times]]'', rather than ''The New York Times''. Fabrickator (talk) 19:58, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

That's very strange Fabrickator, because when i edit as LindsayH (as opposed to Kahtar) seeing the "www" prefixes in the |website= parpameter is exactly how i find them to change them. Here, for example, the previous version shows the CS1 error, as you can verify here. Why not in the example you gave, i can only shrug my shoulders and say, "I don't know."

Linking, yes, sometimes it is useful, expected even. Personally i think that linking to the same publisher or publication multiple times in the same article ~ i've seen at least a couple of dozen links to the same point on occasion ~ seems to be a waste of electrons, but i don't change them because in references i don't think they are intrusive enough to pose an irritation or problem for the average reader. I see your point, but currently i'm not convinced that the usefulness of such wlinks would be worth the effort to find if there could be such a link to be found. Happy days, Lindsay^Hello 14:20, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

(resetting the indent)

LindsayH, I have finally realized why I wasn't seeing these errors. The CS1 notice I most commonly see is the green notice {CS1 maint: unfit url (link). So I have learned to look for CS1 errors by searching for CS1! That said, it appears that the "external link" errors will only be detected if the parameter includes "//" then followed by some string containing a period. So with regard to the edit to Fratton Park, the script deleted the "www" prefix in two places, though these were not considered CS1 errors, while it failed to fix a "title" parameter that is considered to have an external link. Fabrickator (talk) 07:27, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Death - The Sound Of Perseverance

Please return the style i had just edited. That album is not Death Metal and that is why i wrote Extreme Progressive Metal as it is the proper style played on the album.

awb script needs some work

With this edit, your script replaced [sic] with {{sic}} (2×) in {{cite web}} |title=. The script should not have done that because it causes a error.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 11:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for catching that. About two edits after that one i realised that i had mis-clicked in turning off the "sic" substitution; stupidly i didn't go back and check if i'd made any damage. Again, thanks for correcting my foolishness, Happy days, Lindsay^Hello 12:07, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

A year ago ...

"what the reference actually says"
... you were recipient no. 2235 of Precious, a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Wishing you the best

I just saw your note on the AWB page and wanted to wish you and your heart the best. Life is unpredictable but I hope things turn out well. Keep up the good work. SchreiberBike | ⌨  19:48, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you; that is kind. Fortunately, with a little medication going forward, all should be well ~ happy days, Lindsay^Hello 06:53, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

July

pale globe-thistle above the Rhine

I came to thank you for you wonderful support for us folks (on RfA, of all places), but add wishes for health as well, - take care, and keep brightening days, double-precious! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

atkmb

Please change head coach to manager — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.172.174.145 (talk) 17:48, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Short descriptions

Thank you for your message on my talk page. I have been correcting a number of short description entries for biographies for some time now. As a principle, I agree with and support the definitions that you quoted in your message. My basic approach is to just provide enough information to help identify the biography based on the country that the person has primarily lived in or carried out their occupation; the primary occupation(s) of the individual during their lifetime ; and some information regarding when they lived. Given that it doesn't take up much space, my preference is to put the date of birth and date of death to help identify when the person was active or flourished . If that is not available or is uncertain, I then refer to the relevant century or part of that century (e.g. early 2nd century AD). For individuals who have ruled an empire or a kingdom or a principality or the like, I have added a second bracket with the period of reign since I believe that is relevant to getting a very brief understanding of when the individual was most influential. However I'm not wedded to that if you think that that is unnecessary information. One key element in my approach is to try and make sure that the short descriptions are not too long e.g. under 100 characters. Happy to discuss further with you regarding my approach to Roman emperors. I don't wish to be pedantic about it -- I just want to try and improve the overall quality of the short descriptions as they are important both in Wikipedia and for Wikidata. Regards Chewings72 (talk) 05:06, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Harley Fresh

Lindsay So you nominated my article for deletion knowing the fact the information gathered was correct and didn't close it. My article has been deleted but you can still fix it. Tone can restore my page if you ask him to.

Kalabsm Insta

Unfortunately, Kalabsm insta, i'm guessing you didn't read what i put on your talk page. I don't regret nominating, nor the deletion; i think both are justified under our policies. Likewise, i won't be asking Tone to restore it, because he wouldn't anyway, just as he didn't when you asked. I truly do recommend what i suggested on your talk page: Let Harley Fresh go, for a while, try and edit something else and learn a bit more about it.

Just as a simple matter of housekeeping, new comments/sections, like the one you opened here, go at the bottom of pages, not the top, so you'll notice i moved it. Also, you can sign your comments on talk pages by typing ~~~~ which appends your signature ~ like this: happy days, Lindsay^Hello 09:11, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Invitation

Hello, LindsayH! I saw you recently edited a page related to the Green party and green politics. There is a WikiProject that has been formed - WikiProject Green Politics and I thought this might be something you'd be interested in joining! So please head on over to the project page and take a look! Thanks for your time.

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Hayley Sings

Thanks for trying to revert all the edits on Hayley Sings from the IP. I opened an RPP and placed a 3RR notice on the IP’s talk page. EdNg07 (talk) 11:19, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

EdNg07, no worries. There were about four of us reverting the IP, but they've been blocked now, so all's good; happy days, Lindsay^Hello 11:21, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

More info

Sorry to ask but can someone or maybe you add info about Damian Priest the reason why I'm asking is because I want to study WWE Superstars cause I wish to be one even if Im still in school so please more pictures and info. KESHA69 (talk) 09:38, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Bradley International Airport (BDL) broken links.

Hello. On Bradley International Airport page, first paragraph, reference #3, and reference #65, Annual Enplaned Passengers table, can you link up that reference to the website: Traffic Stats-2019 Passenger Numbers. Doesn't seem to link up. Thank you and have a good day.2601:581:8402:1EE0:80D7:D2E1:4A0C:766A (talk) 15:18, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

AfD for deaths due to COVID-19 and related RfC

Hi. Thanks for commenting at the recent AfD for the above list. There is now an ongoing discussion around the best way to split the list, if any, if you wish to comment further. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:41, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

About titles, honorifics and appeal to popularity

Hello and greetings,

This is just for your kind info. Since previously you have participated in an inconclusive RfC discussion at this RfC in year going by, and since some related aspects are under discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Titles, honorifics and appeal to popularity may be you want to join in to share your inputs or opinions.

Thanks and regards

Bookku (talk) 05:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Overlinking

Hi, thanks for your contributions. Please note that common terms (including "singer-songwriter") are not linked unless there's a compelling reason to do so. Tony (talk) 01:16, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Tony1. If we're talking about John Jacob Niles, there was a compelling reason ~ it was in the See also section: Nothing there should be unlinked. Now, it may not belong there, i completely agree, but since it was, i linked it; happy days, Lindsay^Hello 06:13, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes, your first proposition is correct. And no, it's not worth putting in the see also section. My best. Tony (talk) 08:45, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Edit

The table on the page List of MPs who lost their seat in the 2017 French legislative election has broken since your semi-automated edit by your other account: User:Kahtar. Not sure what happened. User talk:Moondragon21

Thank you, Moondragon, for bringing that to mine attention. I agree, i don't know what happened ~ well, more exactly, i know what happened, because i have corrected it, but i don't know why. Mine apologies for the error; it is now, i believe, corrected; happy days, Lindsay^Hello 09:29, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Need your help

Dear Lindsay I need your help. In the Pashtun talkpage I reached a compromise with the user by changing the words in the impugned sentence to match his exact words - but even still he wants to completely water-down the point contrary to the 4 citations and the mentioned quotes within them. I also see him employing bullying tactics by edit waring; although the matter was closed in the talkpage [atleast from my side]. I am relatively new to Wikipedia [and I only want to edit Pashtun-related pages] but this whole argumentative experience with this user has been draining. Please help us settle any tension; although I have personally tried PashtoPromoter (talk) 03:13, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Kyiv

Thank you for your "slightly calmer comment". After "discussing" the topic for over a decade (more or less), my abruptness is more abrupt than usual. --TaivoLinguist (Taivo) (talk) 21:36, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Taivo. I fully understood that abruptness ~ i hope i didn't come across as blaming you ~ i have participated once or possibly twice in those naming discussions, and i admire the patience of those who've been there more. My only reason for the message was the fear i always have of driving away editors, though i note that that account is actually older than mine, so i probably didn't need to be concerned! Anyway, thanks for the message here; see you around ~ happy days, Lindsay^Hello 14:58, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

Hello, LindsayH, just a friendly notice that I mentioned you in a report at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard but your conduct is not at issue (mine is). Feel free to comment or clarify anything there if you want to. Modulus12 (talk) 21:23, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification. Seems a bit unnecessary now, as the whole thing has been gone through and closed during a few hours i was away from my computer ~ much as i admire her, in mine opinion Risker's action was not optimal in closing so quickly. Anyway, i'm sure all will be good in future ~ and you'll recognise that my comments are as i intend, right? See you around; happy days, Lindsay^Hello 07:15, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

And i should add, i didn't realise until i read the ANI discussion that the block was a direct result of Ivanvector reading my comment on your talkpage; for that i apologise ~ 'twas never mine intent for you to be blocked at all;happy days, Lindsay^Hello 07:18, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Correct

Thanks for your comment clarifying my !vote on Vami_IV's RFA. The RFA closed before I could reply, but you had it exactly right.--- Possibly (talk) 21:40, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

One year!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in my recent RFA

I appreciate your encouragement and trust in my recent run for admin. I've had an interesting first few weeks and am learning a lot by being able to better watch (through tools) what admins do. Please call on me if you see making an error, or if you just need help. Thanks again. BusterD (talk) 17:33, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Couple as similar unit

Thanks for your correction and duly noted. You are right. The word “couple” is in most cases treated as a singular unit, when the context is for a pair that’s permanently so (as in singing duo ‘Chad & Jeremy’ or icon characters like ‘Tom & Gerry’ - when they are described as a couple). I guess my tendency was to treat John Legend and Chrissie Teiggen as a plural unit by virtue of their individual statures.

Having said that, your argument makes sense and thank you for pointing it out. My change was not necessary after all. Pipamidalton (talk) 13:43, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

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