Liontamer

OCRemix links

I noticed you've added a sizable number of external links to OCRemix on a number of composer's articles. However, I'm not really sure what purpose those links serve other than to find remixes on OCR. I'd start removing them but I figured I ought to get your input first. Nifboy (talk) 11:43, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for asking. Throughout most profiles, there are birthdays, names in Japanese, photos, information for which games they've contributed to (along with names of games and colleagues in Japanese where applicable), companies they've been published by, which platforms they've been published on, as well as collected links to other major informational sites, including personal homepages, and profiles on Wikipedia, MobyGames, IMDB, MusicBrainz, and Last.fm. So all of this information is given at a glance on those profiles, and IMO is useful. For someone more known like Nobuo Uematsu, that information will be fuller, but for some the info won't be as complete. The plans for that composer database include not just games that are not represented with OC ReMixes, but all games they've composed for, which will only enhance the information further once that's in place. - Liontamer (talk) 04:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

  Except all of that information should also be in the Wikipedia article. Our article on Nobuo Uematsu is so far and above what's on OCRemix and other sites, I don't understand the purpose of linking to them. Even for more obscure composers, say, Junya Nakano, I don't see anything on OCRemix that isn't already in the article. Nifboy (talk) 08:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

• That all that information should be in Wiki articles as well is fine (I agree), but it's clearly not, and IMO wouldn't exclude the OC ReMix composer profile links. In most cases, no other links have anything specifically related to musical expression of fandom of the composer's music. Beyond the career information, I'd argue that the linking to interpretive arrangements of an artist's compositions that are done in tribute "provide[s] a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article", essentially a reverse of rule #1 on when a link should be avoided. On that level, I feel that's being offered. - Liontamer (talk) 09:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
• In addition to what Larry's already stated, I'd like to offer that OC ReMix - and for that matter MusicBrainz and Mobygames - present game composers (and other data) in the context of a relational database that allows for dynamic sorting, referencing, and context. One example: Wiki's Uematsu page may have far more information about him, at the moment, but on OCR (and other sites) you can sort his discography not only by date, but by name, publisher, and system. There's a lot of value and convenience there, especially when composers worked on a lot of games, and it's something that's not practical to implement in a Wiki. I can't tell from Wiki's discography what systems the games listed are for. Also, probably more than 75% of the composers on the site don't yet have Wiki entries. We're keeping track of this and will eventually be able to generate a report on VGM composers that need Wiki entries - I'm thinking this would help everyone out in a big way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djpretzel (talk • contribs) 23:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Adding music credits to infobox

Hello, I opened a discussion regarding the mass addition of music credits to VG infoboxes at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Music credits being added to Designer. You are welcome to add comments there. Ham Pastrami (talk) 01:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Another look at the OC Remix article

Hey there, I've just taken a look at the changes to the OC Remix article, and I think you've made a lot of progress! There are a few things that I think need comment however...

For one, it looks like you went a little overboard with the split referencing. Not a big deal of course, but items where there's no page numbers, you can just put a citation template in the <ref> tag. Also anything that doesn't get re-used for a different page number ought to be listed that way. So #1 and #8 would be like this, and so would #48 as there aren't any other refs to Hulett in Hoffman 2007 (or to Hoffman 2007 at all). Not a big deal of course; just that it leads to some cluttering.

Also, you seem to be referencing things on the OC Remix website that are substantiated by other, third-party refs (for example, "The primary focus of OC ReMix is its website offering hundreds of free fan arrangements, information on game music and composers, resources for aspiring artists," doesn't need to be supported by ref #5 as both #6 and #7 do this. Thus you can clip out an unnecessary ref. There are other spots where you're kind of going in a strange direction with primary sources, such as using an early remix as a ref to support when the site was founded, though you've got a perfect ref with the Retrogames site.

The "notable fans" is kinda triva-ish, and sketchy on the reliable sources front. Someone's twitter feed doesn't exactly cut it, and livejournal is questionable at best. Trivia is pretty badly frowned upon, and I can pretty much guarantee this section will come up at a review session.

One thing that might help out, as I noted the MP3.com article ("Video Game Remixes: How, Where, and Why?") appears to be broken, is using web archive links for older articles. If you're using the {{cite web}} template, there are "archiveurl" and "archivedate" arguments that can let you point to web archives (such as this one).

Finally, I'd watch out for the list of sub-projects at OC Remix, since it's mostly a collection of external links to subjects that aren't otherwise notable enough to merit an article. It might be better to just say that there are/were a bunch of subprojects etc, maybe name a couple of the bigger/more successful ones (referencing them), and then put a reference to a central page at OC Remix listing all those projects (if one exists).

In any case, I hope this is of help. Like I said, the article's coming together very nicely and I think it's got great potential. Good luck! —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 17:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

OC Remix

Thanks! I'll definitely take a look at Follin for you. And thanks for all the great work you do at OCReMix! --PresN 15:24, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

You're right, it's 95% done. I moved the table and made it collapsible, as it's freaking big, but the largest concern I see with the article is the large number of single-sentence paragraphs, mainly right at the beginning and the end- an easy fix, just combine them into more flowing paras. I'm also unsure about the "Personal life" section, aside from the family subsection it seems to be trivial details about himself that he's mentioned in interviews. I don't think that his opinions on television and writing are relevant, any more than mine or yours would be- he's a vg music guy, not a tv star or writer. All in all, though, it's looking really good! --PresN 15:44, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

File:OverClockedReMix.png

Sup. Man, I just contact you all over the board, don't I? XD I saw the question and reply in the OCR FAC and thought I'd link you to WP:COPYREQ. When it comes to featured articles, fair-use images aren't really a big issue (it'd be impossible for every featured article to all use public domain-only images at this point), but I thought it might look better nonetheless. Since you guys run the site, it should be child's play to set things up so that this one image has copyright permissions given to Wikipedia so that there never has to be any further questions on "whether a free replacement can be found".

...although it just occurred to me that the screenshots from five different video games with Sonic in the corner might constitute a problem with that. Oh well; I'll leave it up to you. Arrowned (talk) 00:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Notability-based restrictions for infobox credits?

I've brought up a new discussion about this here. Since you were involved in the old one, I figured I should invite you over. Prime Blue (talk) 16:17, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Video game music

Template:Video game music has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:47, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Recreating a deleted article

Greetings, Liontamer. Following the AfD discussion for "Wilbert Roget II" and the article's deletion, you might want to look up WP:RADP as well as the whole WP:GD guide before recreating it. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 09:52, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

New "Wilbert Roget, II" article

Hi Liontamer. Thank you for your work on the previous article on Wilbert Roget, II. I've created a new one with extensive citations, using your article as the basis. I believe it meets notability guidelines, and it seems to be sticking. Your detailed discography was very impressive, and I appreciate all the work you did to compile it. Glad it can live on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carillonista (talk • contribs) 21:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

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