User talk:LocalNet/Archives/2017/March

SVG Maps

SVG Maps are the easiest thing in the world to edit! If you don't already have a map to work with, search Commons for SVG maps of the world. If you have a map (I've been duplicating files for the ones I've made), you can open this file in a text editor and just customize the color you want in the /* Country codes */ section section inside the "fill:" tag. Before that, add country codes for the availability. There are also a fair number of options before that you can experiment with. Have fun! --Akhenaten0 (talk) 17:40, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

@Akhenaten0: Thank you so much for helping me out! So I found an SVG map from Commons, but I am a little stuck in the process after that. I understood the "open this file in a text editor" (is Word okay?), but I unfortunately don't understood the Country codes section, fill tag and ISO country tags. Sorry, I must appear like such a complete newbie, but I really want to learn, so any additional advice you can give me is very appreciated! LocalNet (talk) 17:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Definitely not Word—that's a word processor in that it processes the words: bold, rulers, headers, etc. You need a plain text editor, like Notepad on Windows or TextEdit on Mac; the difference is like on Wikipedia the difference between hitting "Edit" (word processor) and hitting "Edit Source" (text editor). The code is what you see, and editing and saving doesn't re-write what you've already done. When I open the file, here's what is at the top, in plain text (utf-8) formatting:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="1314" id="svg2985" version="1.1" viewBox="82.992 45.607 2528.5721 1428.3294" width="2560">
  <title>World Map</title>
  <defs id="defs2987"/>
  <style id="style_css_sheet" type="text/css"> 

/*
 * Ocean
 */
.oceanxx
{
   opacity: 1;
   color: #000000;
   fill:#ffffff;
   stroke:#000;
   stroke-width:0.5;
   stroke-miterlimit:1;
}

/*
 * Additional style rules
 *
 * The following are examples of colouring countries.  You can substitute these with your own styles to colour the countries on the map.
 *
 * Color a few countries:
 *
 * .gb, .au, .nc
 * {
 *    fill:       #ff0000;
 * }
 *
 * Color a few small country circles (and the countries):
 *
 * .ms, .ky
 * {
 *    opacity:    1;
 *    fill:       #ff0000;
 * }
 *
 */
 
/* Country codes */
.us, .uk, .de, .fr, .at, .ch, .jp, .it, .es, .nl
{
	fill:		#f28423;
}

Now, everything you see between /* and */ is a comment: either a label (like "Country Codes" at the end), or "commented out" (the additional style rules right above the country codes). The key is basically this:

• General header info: the code that opens the file (DO NOT TOUCH) then the explanation of CSS definitions.
• Circles around small countries: note the difference between the maps for Spotify (with circles) and mine for Music_in_the_World.svg Amazon Music (without circles). opacity : 1; means that it doesn't show up; the other option is 1.
• subxx, unxx, and noxx each refer to specific kinds of smaller things
• landxx refers to the color you want the landmass to be; coastxx refers to islands
• limitxx refers to the odd places: Western Sahara, South Ossetia, Kosovo, etc.: places without full international recognition. See also for antxx.
• oceanxx refers to the color of the water. I've set mine to be opaque but white to fade into the background.
• The Additional Style Rules can be "commented in" by deleting a star and putting a slash after a previous star (see other options above): these seem mainly for if you want two different colors throughout. I haven't messed around with this much.

The next most important things you'll need to know are the country codes and the colors. Country Codes follow ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 I've mentioned above: .us for United States, .no for Norway, but also things like .gb for the United Kingdom, .za for South Africa, and .ch for Switzerland. Pay close attention, or else you'll be highlighting Sierra Leone (.sl) when you mean to highlight Slovenia (.si) or Slovakia (.sk). This is where the real trick of this particular SVG comes from: just put in the codes for the countries you want, and they'll be highlighted. In the Amazon Music one, I've put in .us, .gb, .de, .fr, .at, .ch, .jp, .it, .es, .nl, for the United States, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Austria, Switzerland, Japan, Italy, Spain, and the Netherlands. The precise landmasses represented by those codes are specified very carefully in the bottom of the file: everything after the </style> tag.

For the colors, they're in hexadecimal: 00 to FF (the numbers go 0123456789ABCDF, in two digits, for 256 options per pair). Hex colors are in RGB format, so #FF0000 is super-red, #00FF00 is super-green, and ##0000FF is super-blue. I use a color-picker to pick the exact shade of orange or red or blue from a company logo to use for these maps.

I often give exhaustive explanations; I don't know where people are at, so I'd rather give too much than not enough. Does this help? --Akhenaten0 (talk) 20:23, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

@Akhenaten0: This was amazing! So comprehensive! Thank you for taking the time! It'll be nighttime for me soon, so I don't think I have the mental capacity to try all this out now, but I will definitely look at it over the coming days! Thanks again! LocalNet (talk) 20:48, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

@Akhenaten0: Hi again! After spending some time testing and learning, I found out that, by downloading the SVG map you had created for Google Play Music, I could simply duplicate that map, change the country codes, and save it for the changes to be done. Is that called plagiarism of your work, or is that an OK thing to do? LocalNet (talk) 19:55, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey, I'm just copying (i.e. making a derivative work) from File:BlankMap-World6.svg anyway (in the public domain). Note the license is CC-SA; but even then that's a bit much for what I did. --Akhenaten0 (talk) 20:02, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Re: Edit summaries

But that's what I did. I re-ordered it. It is a more logical order. It is something that does not require elaboration. ViperSnake151  Talk  14:47, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi @ViperSnake151: For future reference and for the sake of providing all details to readers, we are talking about this edit to Android Nougat. I saw that you re-ordered it, but the reasoning behind re-ordering is what you didn't provide, and I didn't understand. I'm not saying you're wrong, in fact you might very well be completely right, but reasoning is important. I now see that you made the edit again, and this time you provided a reason, so thank you for that. LocalNet (talk) 14:53, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Oh, and before I forget @ViperSnake151: Thank you for coming here to talk to me! Though I strongly recommend answering directly on your own talk page and using {{Ping|username}} to reply to users, otherwise it appears that you are ignoring people who post on your page. :) LocalNet (talk) 15:10, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Dropbox preview releases

Hi there, LocalNet. I was trying to update the preview releases as it doesn't seem to be updated with the template. Hayman30 (talk) 08:30, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Hayman30: Thank you for writing to me! It can indeed be confusing, but the table both appears automatically after creation and then updates itself automatically, but sometimes not immediately. It should happen very soon, though :) Thank you for your contributions! LocalNet (talk) 08:32, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for replying. Hayman30 (talk) 08:36, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Seeking guidance for updates on Google Cloud Platform Wikipedia page

Hi LocalNet, I am a Google employee and reaching out to seek some guidance on Google Cloud Platform wikipedia page. I suggested some updated and neutral content (to the best of my knowledge) under the "Talk" section on the page by disclosing Conflict of Interest. The changes were rejected because of conflict of interest recently. I wanted to reach out and seek your help, by reviewing the content or by suggesting some next steps that I can take to have the content updated. I really appreciate any guidance on this and happy to provide any additional details. Thanks Sudhir Sharma, Google Cloud Platform Sudhirsharma26 (talk) 22:42, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Sudhirsharma26: Thank you for sending me a message! I am not an employee, and I will review your proposed edit from a non-conflict of interest perspective. You've written quite a lot (which is good, don't get me wrong!), but reviewing it won't be done within 5 minutes. I'll get started on reviewing it hopefully later today or later this week. I'd just like to say one thing, though, and that is that I will most likely be changing some stuff in the process. That is mostly because editors with a conflict of interest are often tempted to add non-neutral language, use improper sources, or otherwise show signs of their "bias" even without intention. So when I have time, I'll be reviewing the proposed edit, and making changes based on Wikipedia's guidelines and rules. Thanks for trying to contribute! :) LocalNet (talk) 06:13, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi again @Sudhirsharma26: I have now reviewed your edit on the Google Cloud Platform talk page. I will be writing this post there as well to make sure readers can find my answer in both places. If you want to respond, please do so on the Google Cloud Platform talk page :) First of all, thank you for your interest in contributing to Wikipedia! However, after reviewing what you've written, it comes to my attention that too little of the information has sources. The majority of the links are to other Wikipedia articles. As an example, many of the History items do not feature references to secondary, reliable sources, and the same is true for the "Certifications and Training" and "Usage" sections. The "Compute", "Storage and Databases", "Big Data", "Machine Learning", "Networking", "Identity and Security", and "Management Services" sections feature intricate details that only interest a specific audience. So, I apologize, but at this time, I won't change the page. LocalNet (talk) 09:56, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi @LocalNet:, thanks for taking the time to review our content. I appreciate your feedback and will work internally on updating content. Just a quick question- do you think it's ok to edit the content with new one on talk section or is there a different approach that I should take? Example- saving in sandbox first and seeking review from you again, before I make changes on the talk section? Thanks again, I really appreciate your guidance here. Sudhirsharma26 (talk) 18:24, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi again! @Sudhirsharma26: You're welcome, I'm happy to help you! :) You made the right move by adding text into the talk page. I will now remove the text you previously added, replace it with a Request denied template (Wikipedia guidelines and policies to do so), and then you can add new information the same way you did the last time. A word of advice, though: If you want to link to Wikipedia articles, surround the specific text with brackets rather than using the <ref></ref> formatting, like this example: [[HTML]]. That way, there isn't an endlessly long reference list at the bottom of your proposed edit, but rather the information is linked directly, like this: HTML. Feel free to ask questions if you have any :) LocalNet (talk) 18:52, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

iPad

Hi You are for the title called as iPad (2017). Why do not you vote in the dedicated section? It would then be easier to do the counting. --Panam2014 (talk) 20:43, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Panam2014: Thank you for the message! If you take a look at the talk page, there's a comment by user Old Naval Rooftops stating "For technical reasons, please use the above ongoing move discussion instead of starting a new one", followed by user Peterwhy stating "discussion moved". So that's why I want to stick to the first post about renaming, which applies to all forms of renaming. :) LocalNet (talk) 20:50, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

YouTube sources

So yes, I probably need a good source. The problem is, it is extremely hard to find. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cakFJ0HS_4g or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqFlzhQBFoA is proof, but I can't do that. Previously that was not possible. That is... all I can really say. Brmbrmcar (talk) 20:29, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Brmbrmcar: Thank you for the message! I agree with you that, unfortunately, there are no sources yet confirming that YouTube videos are available in 8K and 60FPS. Which makes me question if it's a true new feature or a test. As an example, only the first video you linked to me here is actually available in 8K 60FPS for me, while the other is actually limited to 1080p 60FPS for me. I do believe that once the feature is fully enabled, or Google makes an announcement, there will be a flood of excellent sources, but until then, Wikipedia cannot feature the info, as it violates the verifiability policy. LocalNet (talk) 20:32, 30 March 2017 (UTC)