Lost ingrande

June 2023

Hello, I'm HorrorLover555. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Janet Jackson: Together Again, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. HorrorLover555 (talk) 11:15, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

I was at the concert, there’s even a few YouTube videos that you can look up of that performance. I don’t know why this is an issue? Lost ingrande (talk) 18:14, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Per the guidelines, Wikipedia has a policy that it requires reliable sources, as well as it being verifiable as long it is covered in news sources. If it cannot be verified in a news source, it generally should not be included. "I was at the concert, therefore it must be true" does not make it verifiable, nor does the YouTube videos as YouTube is not a reliable source. HorrorLover555 (talk) 02:02, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

I’ve been on PLENTY of pages on Wikipedia where sources like YouTube were cited. You are just being a downright disrespectful bully that thinks they run Wikipedia. You don’t run the Janet Jackson tour date info so seriously, chill. Plus it was performed at the concert so seriously, what is the issue other than you seemingly wanting to find something to complain about? Lost ingrande (talk) 02:54, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes, there are pages I have seen that have YouTube cited, but were directed for the artist's official channel which is seen as an exception. You are assuming bad faith on my part, as I am only acting by the guidelines, and had covered on it before. I am a fan of Janet Jackson myself, but that does not stop me from acting in accordance to the guidelines of Wikipedia as it is meant to be an encyclopedia - so don't accuse me of owning anything when I am following the guidelines. Calling me names like "bully" isn't going to get you very far, so the best option in the future is to discuss on the article's talk page regarding the edit. At this point, I will keep your edit for now but will be having a look into it. HorrorLover555 (talk) 06:44, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

I have never actually had anyone actually had this issue and actually wanna look into it like you do especially when I actually did find a source for it since I didn’t realize it was going to offend you that badly? I called you a bully because you were being a bully, talking to me like I’m stupid at the first jump and even had the audacity to send a “ citations for beginners “ when I’ve been using Wikipedia for quite some time and you just took it upon yourself to just keep deleting my comment when nearly every Janet fan knew that she did perform it because it was a big deal on social media when it happened because she never performed sexhibition on any of her tours. But this is a waste of time, have a good day. Lost ingrande (talk) 06:51, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

If the song was a big deal on social media, surely the news sites would have reported on that being played for the first at that point. Yeah, let's just leave this at that. Have a good one. HorrorLover555 (talk) 07:00, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

You are suspected of sockpuppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, then, if you wish to do so, respond to the evidence at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/WhereverUGo87. Thank you. livelikemusic (TALK!) 04:40, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Are you actually serious right now? If you really want to investigate, go on ahead, I only have 1 Wikipedia account and I have the emails and everything to prove it. So truly go ahead and make them investigate it, you are making yourself look really ignorant right now. Lost ingrande (talk) 06:17, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding your continued addition of unsourced and poorly sourced material. The thread is Continued addition of poorly sourced and/or unsourced edits by Lost ingrande. Thank you. HorrorLover555 (talk) 02:24, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

A peaceful resolution

Hello again. I am not here to argue with you about the sources, but to bring in a peaceful resolution to bring the heat to a calm. I say this, because after all of the arguing back-and-forth regarding the sources, I believe we have reached an impasse as none of us can come to an agreement or a compromise. The first I would like to point out is you telling me that I have been disrespectful, and a bully. If I had previously been that way before, then I deeply apologize for acting like that, and I apologize for talking to you as if you were stupid, which you are not. It was wrong of me to be that way and I should have thought about it a little better before doing so. Again, I apologize for not being civil with you.

I have created this proposal to create peace on my side and yours, so that we don't continue to argue about this source debate. Should you accept my peace treaty, these are the things I will do in return:

• 1) If this peaceful resolution is accepted, I will no longer "dictate" or be controlling of the Janet Jackson: Together Again article as you say I am. I will not make any more edits or reverts on the article. (To a certain extent, I haven't had much focus on that article, as I have moved on to other articles to work on.)
• 2) I will withdraw my discussion from the article's talk page as I do not want to turn it into a complete tug of war, as mentioned before, and I will notify the ANI that I will be withdrawing the report should you accept this resolution.
• 3) In addition to the other two points above, I will no longer post notices on your talk page, nor will I post on your talk page to contact you.

Those are the terms to my proposal. All I ask is that you think it over (take as much time as you need to think about it), and let me know if this is a resolution you are willing to accept. Because at this point, I would like this situation to settle down, so both of us can move on - as I am all ready to move forward without further incident. HorrorLover555 (talk) 05:31, 23 June 2023 (UTC)