Lunch for Two

Welcome to Wikipedia from Naraht

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Thank you for the welcome. Lunch for Two (talk) 11:27, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

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Hello. You are new here and have obviously chosen to edit Macedonian related articles. These articles are the product of a long consensus between many editors. Please do not break the consensus. Thank you Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2 **** Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Macedonia) Politis (talk) 22:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

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August 2011

Please stop your disruptive editing. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

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Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in you being blocked from editing. Jingby (talk) 08:39, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Please note that if you want to make a change to the existing text of an article which is opposed, the onus is on you to obtain consensus suport for it on the Talk page. Only proceed to make the change when you have consensus support. Don't keep reverting to get your way. Before you go any further read WP:CONSENSUS and WP:BRD. Jingby (talk) 09:16, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Please, do not delete any sourced content from Bulgarians in Albania without consensus, or I am going to report you to the Admins. Thank you. Jingby (talk) 13:41, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

The removed information had nothing to do with the actual minority group, but the idea regarding that groups existence. The information dealing with them has remained. Your revert wars are equally as worthy of admin intervention. Lunch for Two (talk) 13:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion is not more important then the sources, which support this historical facts. You can make some clarifications, but please, do not delete them. Jingby (talk) 13:53, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

My Clarification is that sentences in the article such as "Arben Xhaferi, the president of the Democratic Party of Albanians in Republic of Macedonia stated in an interview for Albanian newspaper Shekulli in 2006 that in his opinion the Slavic-speaking inhabitants of Mala Prespa and Golo Brdo are Bulgarians, he is known for referring to ethnic Macedonians as Bulgarians."

Does not add to the value of the article. What does this statement achieve? Do we learn about Bulgarians in Albania with comments like this? No, it is just a remark made in passing with little actual relevance to the article. Have a look at the edit which I made and tell what exactly is wrong with it. The edit is in fact more to the point of what the article should be. Lunch for Two (talk) 13:58, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Lunch, I do not know who is right here, but I see you are edit warring across multiple articles. This kind of behavior will get you blocked even if your edits are correct. I've protected the articles for a week; this should give you two enough time to work things out. If you are not able to work together as Wikipedia requires, then you will need to go to WP:dispute resolution. — kwami (talk) 10:09, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough, I think that a week will be sufficient time to sort the issues out. Lunch for Two (talk) 12:31, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Kostas Novakis. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

In particular, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue edit warring, you may be blocked from editing. Laveol ^T 15:09, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I will bring it up. You could have however approached the issue less formally, it would have been appreciated. Lunch for Two (talk) 15:10, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

It is a template to stop you from breaking the 3RR rule. How should I approach an issue when you simply revert it constantly? --Laveol ^T 15:19, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

I was under the impression that I did not break the 3RR rule, apparenly had I reverted 5 minutes later it would not have been 3RR. Fair enough if I was reverting something which I was clearly wrong about, but come on, in this instance?!. Lunch for Two (talk) 15:24, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. Your edits have been reverted or removed. Thank you. Jingby (talk) 04:42, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

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Dispute Resolution

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.  Nipsonanomhmata  ^(Talk) 23:50, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Greek Dances

Leventikos and Zaramo are greek varieties.Create new articles for your macedonobulgarian dances.

OK then you can add these information but don't remove greek music templates.Also the "aegeanmacedonia" term is offensive.There are only greek and slav macedonians.

"Aegean Macedonian" is a irredentist term used to refer to greek macedonia.As i said before ,slavs and greeks are not the same.Tot12 (talk) 11:10, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

POV-pushing in Greek village articles

Please stop deliberately misquoting the source by using words such as "purely" or "entirely" in regards to the complex ethnolinguistic reality of Florina's villages. A case in point is this edit of yours. Far from the village being "entirely" Slavic-speaking, the language is in fact spoken "uniquement par des personnes de plus de 60 ans, dans la plupart des cas seulement en privé". If you don't understand French, get someone to translate it for you. ·ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ· 15:39, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

September 2011

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Lofoi. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Wifione ^Message 19:08, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Please stop your extremely disruptive behaviour. The only you do here is to engage the users to revert the mass of well sourced informtion removed by you because you don't like it. As in National Liberation War of Macedonia, Bulgarians in Albania, Macedonians (ethnic group), Slavic speakers of Greek Macedonia, Bulgarians and almostly all the pages you edit, you revert the mass remvals for more than 10 times, somewhere 20 and on the whole you don't do other than long and groundless edit-wars. The users want to do more fruitful things instead wasting their time with reverting this long and serial repetitive vandalism, POV-pushing, etc. nonsenses. If you continue the vandalism I will go to WP:AE and I will request your blocking for your disruptive behaviour. --Dinner for three (talk) 12:49, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Notification of WP:ARBMAC

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As well as edit warring on National Liberation War of Macedonia it appears from your contributions and the warnings you've received above that you've been engaging in similar behaviour elsewhere. I realise that you perhaps see your actions as countering the POV of others, but you should realise that Wikipedians in general are sick to death of nationalist and ethnic quarrels, and have very little sympathy for those that engage in them. Consequently if you continue to gain yourself a reputation as an edit warrior you can expect to prevented from editing Wikipedia in the near future. This notice is logged at WP:ARBMAC#Log of warnings. EyeSerene^talk 10:14, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

I understand where you are coming from. However, this reaction in regards to two edits seems a bit heavy handed. Lunch for Two (talk) 10:30, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Dear Lunch for Two. I just wanted to apologise if you felt I had been offensive at Macedonian language. I sincerely did not intend to offend.  Nipsonanomhmata  ^(Talk) 16:31, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate the apology, however you must be aware that some of your comments have been truly offensive. I have tried to be more than civil with yourself and have not at one stage attempted to liken the Greek people to a mass-produced Yugoslav car, a mixed pedigree or to a pseudo/invented nation. Your ability to voice your opinions indicates that you are an intelligent person, however your opinion itself indicates that you are very deluded and reluctant to accept what other people say. I suggest that you acknowledge the existence of the Macedonian people and also acknowledge that there are also people who live in Greece who belong to the same ethnicity. You might be interested in watching this video with accompanying translation. Lunch for Two (talk) 12:31, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

I have not used the words "mixed" or "invented". I am always happy to listen to what is considered to be the history and background of this ethnicity. I do not deny that there is a small percentage of the population that is the same ethnicity as some of the Slavic-speakers of Macedonia in Greece. I have never denied that. But I have never seen any historical evidence that the majority of the population has any connection with the majority of the Slavic-speaking population of Macedonia in Greece. That is the sticking point.  Nipsonanomhmata  ^(Talk) 15:22, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Who cares whether they comprise 70% or 7%?! I have never even discussed that. You just can't accept the fact that there is an ethnic Macedonian population minority living in Greece. Lunch for Two (talk) 15:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

There is a Macedonian population majority living in Greece but they are ethnically Hellenic/Greek and the vast majority cannot speak Slavic. There are some Slavic-speaking ethnic Greeks too (who are bilingual) who are Macedonians (of Greece). There are other Slavic-speakers of Greece who are ethnically from the former Yugoslavia (including the "Republic of Macedonia" and Serbia), Bulgaria and there are many immigrants from Russia). How do you classify the Greek-speakers of the "Republic of Macedonia"? Not all of them were originally from Macedonia (Greece) although many are. Are they mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia?  Nipsonanomhmata  ^(Talk) 15:49, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

If you are incapable of understanding what the term "ethnic Macedonian" means then maybe you are better off not editing Macedonia related articles. Lunch for Two (talk) 15:53, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

I understand what the "Republic of Macedonia" would like "ethnic Macedonian" to mean. But I remain unconvinced of that definition.  Nipsonanomhmata  ^(Talk) 16:10, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

donetsk map

fyi you colored in russia the same color as ukraine (bottom left)--Львівське (говорити) 14:30, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed, Thanks I will tidy that up. Lunch for Two (talk) 11:20, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

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Draft:2014 insurgency in Donetsk and Luhansk

I'm busy at the moment, but I'd really like to get this draft (formerly Donetsk crisis) off the ground. I've updated the split information. It just needs to organised. I haven't split off the Lugansk stuff yet, but I hope you can work on this and help get it up to snuff. RGloucester — ☎ 18:45, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm happy to do some now and some later in the week when I get a chance. Lunch for Two (talk) 13:02, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

You've been inducted!

		Order of Merit of Ukraine
		In honour of your great contributions to Lugansk People's Republic, among other articles related to the current events in Ukraine, I hereby induct you into the Order of Merit of Ukraine! Thanks very much for your help. It is always appreciated.
		this WikiAward was given to Lunch for Two by RGloucester — ☎ on 01:22, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	I award you this Barnstar for fighting against bias and chauvinism on Macedonian and Balkan Wikipedia pages. Okrados (talk) 22:51, 20 May 2021 (UTC)