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Your submission at Articles for creation: Miguel and the Living Dead (December 4)

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Draft: Miguel and the Living Dead

Hi Angus,

the previous version may have been poor, but it was not a promotional item for the band. This is not a young band, because it was founded in 2001. He is quite recognizable in the areas of independent music with the aesthetics of gothic rock, post punk, death rock and psychobilly. There is no distortion of reality or facts about the band. This is objective information. In this matter, if there are any doubts, I advise you to consult your knowledge and competences with a good expert in the above-mentioned musical aesthetics. He will only confirm that this is not an amateur band, but one that already has a successful musical career. Please find out which bands MATLD played together at concerts and festivals, e.g. New Model Army, Sex Gang Children, The Damned, Clan Of Xymox, Combichrist, Deine Lakaien, Lacrimosa, Nitzer Ebb, Samael, Theatre Of Tragedy, VNV Nation, The Legendary Pink Dots, Suicide Commando, Diary of Dreams, Front Line Assembly, She Past Away, XIII. Století, Lacuna Coil, Blutengel, Me And That Man. These are well-known bands in this music and music-related area. The concerts are supported by reliable sources in the article.

According to Wikipedia's rules, the team meets the requirements for publication.

1. was the subject of many music articles (Polish and foreign) in professional magazines: Zillo, Orkus, Teraz Rock, Machina, Noise Magazine. This is confirmed by the sources in the article.

2. is a niche band, so it certainly wasn't played on big music charts, but it was played on Polish Radio "Trójka" (for example, songs: Night of Terror and Bonehead) and Radiostacja. His songs are listed on last.fm (if that matters)

3. has not yet been certified gold, but many bands on the wiki do not have such a status

4. some concert reports are described on the Internet and in paper journals: Zillo, Orkus, Machina, Teraz Rock, Noise Magazine (mentioned above). The German-language Orkus is one of the most important and best music magazines of this aesthetic in the world.

5. released two full-length albums, on two independent labels with several years of experience. The first German-Austrian, the second Polish. Several good bands released on Strobelight records: All Gone Dead, Frank the Baptist, Pink Turns Blue, The Last Days Of Jesus, Sleeping Children. The Noise Annoys label mainly releases albums by Polish bands, very popular on the Polish market, but also foreign ones (mainly punk rock aesthetics): TZN Xenna, One Million Bulgarians, Apteka, Deuter, Variété, U.K. Subs. After several years on the music market, Strobelight Records ceased operations for unknown reasons. Noise Annoys has evolved into a record label and concert organizer.

6. It is a band consisting of two ambitious, talented musicians who played in other famous bands: Pete - Devilish Presley, Klaus - TZN Xenna, One Million Bulgarians (see Polish wikipedia).

7. He is one of the important representatives of this aesthetic in Europe after 2000, and when it comes to Poland, there is no band apart from MATLD that would play post punk, goth rock, horror punk, deathrock, psychobilly at the same time (they write about it in Zillo, Orkus, Machina, Noise Magazine). Yes, there are several famous bands, but they play classic goth rock combined with gothic metal or dark wave, among others: Closterkeller, Deathcamp Project etc (see polish wikipedia).

8. was nominated for an award at the Polish concert in Jarocin in 2006, but only won an honorable mention due to the fact that the lyrics were only in English (there is a source confirming this).

9. in total as above. It was certainly appreciated at the largest festival in Europe, Castle Party in Bolków. He played there twice. It's strange that there is no article about this festival on the English-language Wikipedia!

10. this team was not in the media. Only brief mentions of festivals on regional television and concerts in various countries. This will be difficult to verify.

11. thanks to Noise Annoys in Poland, the band was played on Polish radio "Trójka", "Radiostacja" and was the subject of music articles in Teraz Rock and Noise Magazine. Thanks to Strobelight Records, he gained attention mainly in German popular music magazines (Zillo and Orkus).

12. Miguel and the Living Dead only appeared on a few Polish radio programs Trójka and Radiostacja. He didn't appear on TV programs, apart from short interviews covering music festivals (in Polish and English).

I'm also adding information from discogs, because it is a very reliable source, especially when it comes to the line-up, connections, albums, etc. Please see Carcass, discogs is also quoted there. Many concert materials are available on You Tube, but I decided not to quote them.

Please approach the article substantively in these musical areas, objectively and seriously. Please also appreciate my contribution. MKutera74 (talk) 01:34, 13 December 2023 (UTC) MKutera74 (talk) 01:43, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Miguel and the Living Dead (December 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DrowssapSMM were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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DrowssapSMM 15:57, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

ok MKutera74 (talk) 16:26, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

I used discogs as biographical sources

M kutera - Marcin Kutera MKutera74 (talk) 19:26, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Miguel and the Living Dead has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Miguel and the Living Dead. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 19:15, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Miguel and the Living Dead (January 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Mach61 was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Mach61 (talk) 14:20, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Miguel and the Living Dead (July 27)

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Bobby Cohn (talk) 19:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

The article was written by me much earlier in the English version (in 2023), based on the Polish version updated by me, than this page (which was created only in June 2024). I know the page, but I did not quote it, because it is prepared for the release of the new album. The band asked me not to post it on Wikipedia for now. Materials about MATLD are verified and 100% certain. I have full rights to the photos, I sent permissions to the Polish version of Wikipedia. The official website of the band will be cited only after the official release of the next album this year. It is still under development. Currently, talks are underway with the record companies, the material is already recorded and ready for release. Please post the article, because this is a strange action, to say the least. 46.113.10.200 (talk) 22:15, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

The article was written by me much earlier in the English version (in 2023), based on the Polish version updated by me, than this page (which was created only in June 2024). I know the page, but I did not quote it, because it is prepared for the release of the new album. The band asked me not to post it on Wikipedia for now. Materials about MATLD are verified and 100% certain. I have full rights to the photos, I sent permissions to the Polish version of Wikipedia. The official website of the band will be cited only after the official release of the next album this year. It is still under development. Currently, talks are underway with the record companies, the material is already recorded and ready for release. Please post the article, because this is a strange action, to say the least. MKutera74 (talk) 22:15, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

I own the copyright to this text 100%. Please restore it and don't make problems!!!! MKutera74 (talk) 22:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Where is my draft????? MKutera74 (talk) 22:43, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

August 2024

Hello MKutera74. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

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Hi, this is in addition to the larger message I've left on my talk page at #Draft:Miguel and the Living Dead
Bobby Cohn (talk) 01:34, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I have absolutely no financial or legal benefits from this. I only have copyrights, because I created and wrote this article myself, citing sources. I have been editing Miguel and the Living Dead for free since about 2005/2006 on the Polish wiki. I have been interested in music of this aesthetic for about 30 years (I have a lot of books, CDs, vinyls, cassettes, all original editions from all over the world). Finally, I updated it and decided that it was worth making an English version for MATLD. I have been following the band for years and going to their concerts. I know their biography perfectly well. I know the musicians. I sent them the translation and they asked if they could put it on the new page, so I said ok. How could I know that this would constitute a conflict. I am not their manager. Their page was created by someone else, I do not know this person at all. I regret this hard work since October 2023 and unfortunately I did not write this draft in the rough draft. Please help me somehow in this matter. MKutera74 (talk) 01:51, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

You say that you know them and that you've communicated with them about your editing- that is a conflict of interest that you must disclose, see WP:COI. 331dot (talk) 12:20, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I revealed everything in the draft discussion. I have absolutely nothing to hide MKutera74 (talk) 12:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I understand, but please make the conflict of interest disclosure on your user page(User:MKutera74) 331dot (talk) 12:26, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I am a Polish entomologist, my name is Marcin Kutera, music is my passion. I think that if the article were to appear, in the future the manager of the given label, which will release the album MATLD, will be dealing with Wikipedia. MKutera74 (talk) 12:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I was really just looking for the disclosure as described at WP:COI but your statement is sufficient, thank you. 331dot (talk) 12:31, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Miguel and the Living Dead (August 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by SafariScribe were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)