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Please note that Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Your addition of irrelevant links to advertise your own website will be reverted as discussed at the Village Pump. Angela 05:17, Sep 23, 2003 (UTC)

seconded. -- Tarquin 09:35, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)

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All this Anon did is linking to many articles to his website, like this:

  • Tower of Babel: The multilingual, multicultural online journal and community of arts and ideas.

And it's always bolded and placed 1st, before all other obviously more irrelvant-to-subject links.

  • Jeez. Does "Don't bite the newcomers" mean anything to any of you? I'm sorry, it's just the first thing I saw when I came in. "...obviously more irrelevant-to-subject links". Funny SIC comment. So you obviously know just how hard it is to find good voluntary translators these days.--Malcs64

And that's all he did. No actual contribution. His website seems to be of little relevance to most of our article, if not all. The Chinese version seems to be just of one page, and machine-translated (pietà is translated as piñata).

  • Oh my goodness. I didn't realize I was being graded. You must not be familiar with the myth of the tower of Babel nor the paradigm of the website itself. Before you start talking about machine-translated pages perhaps you should look at the Translators page. Babel is a multilingual project taken care of by human beings much like Wikipedia. Oh, and what you mean is 'piñata' is translated as 'pietà', not the other way around. Or perhaps you got it right and just assumed it was 'pietà' and not 'piñata.' Perhaps you or any other Chinese translators you might know would like to help with Babel, we obviously need them, it's a contributory community just like Wikipedia.--Malcs64

What do you think? Is that link valuable addition to Wikipedia? If not, they should be reverted. --Menchi 04:10, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I suggest reverting every single one of them. An online art community is hardly relevant to an article on babel or any of the other articles he's linked it to. Angela
  • Someone else who hasn't taken the time to actually note the site's relevance to the pages it was linked to. --Malcs64

He's now doing the same under the name Malcs64. Angela

I would like a second opinion on what counts as 'advertising.' I added external links in relevant places ('Babel', 'Tower of Babel', 'Languages' etc.) to my non-commercial website (towerofbabel.com) which is actually another multilingual project similar to Wikipedia named Babel (and if you are familiar with the myth of the tower of Babel you would understand its relevance, because the entire je nais se quoi is based on the paradigm of the myth.) I fail to see how these links would be construed as 'irrelevant' or as 'advertising.' I assume the person who deleted my external links didn't even bother to look at the site.

The link ( http://www.towerofbabel.com/ ) is far too generic to be either relevant or useful; it's kind of like adding a link to the front page of an map site on every single country, city, or geographical article. If you could make the links specific to the topics where you place them, they'd be much more likely to remain. --Brion 05:46, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
You added a link to your site from the Tower of Babel article. What information does your site provide about the Tower of Babel? None. That's why it was removed. CGS 13:06, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC).
  • Come again? You obviously know the site inside out. --Malcs64