Mannofthomas

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Red warbler

Hi there. Red warbler may have been written "in a mishmash of English varieties", but I can assure you that it was started in American English. You're supposed to look at the early forms of the article (i.e. here) and conform to that. I can assure you (as the American who wrote the vast majority of the article) that it was in American English! Can you please restore that? Thanks. MeegsC (talk) 18:51, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

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Reference tag and reflist template

Hi -- thanks for the clean-up edits on Offham Hill. I undid a couple of them and wanted to let you know why. There are quite a few editors who prefer double spaces after sentences, and if you see double spaces in an article it's probably because the main editors of that article have put them in deliberately, so I would suggest leaving those in place. The other change I undid was the substitution of {{reflist}} for <references />; this used to be a good idea because it allowed multi-column references, but now the tag provides multi-column references too, so there's no reason to make the change. In addition, for editors who use the Visual Editor, the raw tag is actually preferable since the template doesn't respond to changes made in a VE editing session. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:26, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

MOS:DATEVAR

I have undone your MOS:DATEVAR-violating changes to Mutilated chessboard problem. If your script cannot handle the style in use by that article, {{Use mdy dates|cs1-dates=ly|date=October 2022}} (that is, Month-first long publication dates, but numeric access dates, a perfectly valid style for Wikipedia articles) then it is broken and should not be used. Please also stop making pointless cosmetic edits to wiki-source that do not change reader-visible content, such as putting   extra   spaces   in   article   headings. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:49, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Don't know what you're about. The article used at one place mdy dates and at another cs1 dates, that is not a consistency as far I'm concerned. I established a consistency per MOS:DATES changing them all to the dmy dates format, which is the international dates format, considering the article has nothing to with the United States; if you change them back to an incosistent format that is a violation of MOS:DATEVAR. Further, the so-called 'cosmetic edits' are neccessary per Wikipedia's Manual of Style rules, if you have a problem with the established rules, then there is always a talk page to start a discussion to change them. I am certainly ready to support your case there if it's valid one. But currently, they go against the status quo, so, please, revert your last edit. —Mannofthomas (talk) 17:17, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

MOS:DATES explicitly allows mdy dates for publications and numeric dates for access-dates. That is such a well-established format that it can easily be specified by the use dates template, as I have now done. Specifically, {{Use mdy dates|cs1-dates=ly}} specifies long mdy dates for publications and numeric access dates (the "ly" part of that specifies which kind of format to use for which kind of date). MOS:DATEUNIFY clearly distinguishes the format of access dates from the format of publication dates and allows them to be different. Read the MOS, because your "as far as I'm concerned" is totally inconsistent with what it says. Also, your "cs1 dates" is a misnomer. The cs1-dates parameter of the use dates template specifies which date format to use in which parts of Citation Style 1 (and Citation Style 2) references, but it is the parameter value (in this case "ly"), not the name of the parameter, that specifies which specific format is in use. The "l" means long, spelled-out dates, and the "y" means numeric dates. And your claim of a requirement in MOS:HEAD to put spaces between the "==" and the section heading is a lie; in fact, the examples there use an unspaced style. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:37, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

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