MardiGrasCantab

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Happy editing! --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:34, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

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but you can't just repurpose an article to become something else. If an article gets too long (which the Marshalls article hasn't) then it can be split, but there is a proper way to do it: WP:SPLIT. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:34, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Conflict of interest?

I have no idea whether or not your interest in the Marshall Group is just because it is a major business in your local area. But just in case may I draw your attention to policies Wikipedia:conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

My remark requires a quid pro quo declaration: I have no interests financial or otherwise in the Marshall Group or any of its subsidiaries. I watch the article because of the possibility that Marshall Aerospace will move to Cranfield Airport, near where I live. I have no interests in Cranfield Airport or Cranfield University. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 15:52, 31 March 2022 (UTC) updated to add CU. --10:57, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for flagging that. I am new to this - so your steer is very helpful. I do have a connection to Marshall but am not being paid to do this. It is a personal passion project. I have added that I have a connection to Marshall on my personal profile. I hope I've done this correctly. MardiGrasCantab (talk) 08:36, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, you did the right thing but in the wrong place. You need to put that flag in talk:Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group and talk:Marshall of Cambridge . On your personal page, you could just write exactly what you have said above: I do have a connection to Marshall but am not being paid to do this. It is a personal passion project. Or something like that, you can do what you like really apart from use it as a free website for your consultancy/plumbing business/whatever --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 10:57, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Obviously I didn't explain properly. You need to put the formal notice of interest notice in the talk pages of the articles you are editing. The informal version goes on your own user page. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 12:38, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Minor edits and citations

As most new editors do, you have misunderstood "minor". It means grammar or spelling corrections that have no effect on the meaning of the article. The size is irrelevant: a change from "now" to "not" is jus one letter but certainly not minor. See WP:MINOR.

Can you also look at WP:citing sources (which is very long so for now you just need to read template:cite news and template:cite web. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 12:33, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Copyright violations

I'm not sure why you haven't been informed but I see from the history of the Marshall of Cambridge article that most of what you added has been expunged as copyright violation. You must not copy or close paraphrase external sources. See WP:COPYRIGHT. This is a serious matter and, if repeated, could well lead to your right to edit being removed. Please be more careful. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 22:53, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

I am not sure what was flagged as a copyright violation, or what has been removed, but from my perspective, the Marshall of Cambridge page is identical to the version I have written on a Word document on my computer - so nothing I added appears to been expunged. MardiGrasCantab (talk) 08:43, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Odd... The copyvio edit note suggests that you copied it (or closely paraphrased it) from https://marshallfleetsolutions.co.uk/

@Bensci54:, can you elaborate ? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 09:33, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, there was a portion of the Marshall Fleet Solutions section that appeared to be lifted directly from their website. I removed it and applied for revdel. I don't recall exactly what from the website was copied, though, but it doesn't appear to have been re-added. Bensci54 (talk) 20:26, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

There was a string of six (technical) words sourced from a different news website (referenced as the source) - the wording of which had originated from a Marshall Fleet Solutions' press release (and which also featured on the Fleet Solutions website). Legally, press releases are free of any intellectual property claims; this principle has been confirmed in both the US and UK. So am I not sure why this a) merited a copyright violation notice and b) if you don't accept the legal arguments in this case, why was the whole history of edits expunged for a few problematic words? I am new to Wikipedia - but that felt like a disproportionate response - and one that discourages people from making contributions. MardiGrasCantab (talk) 12:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Marshall of Cambridge moved to draftspace

As you have declared a conflict of interest with the subject of Marshall of Cambridge, you should submit this article to be published through the Articles for Creation process. I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. Before submitting, you should make sure that the article is fully compliant with Wikipedia’s neutrality and verifiability policies, as well as our notability guidelines. When you’re ready, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. This process is encouraged, but optional. If you choose not to participate in it, you can remove the AfC template and move the article back to mainspace. You should also consider reaching out to the Teahouse for additional feedback and aid from experienced editors. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 02:30, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

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Marshall of Cambridge moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Marshall of Cambridge, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:02, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, you have declared a COI in this subject, therefore you should not be moving this draft into the main article space past the AfC review. I have moved it back to drafts and submitted it for review. Kindly wait for that process to complete. Thank you, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:04, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Marshall of Cambridge (June 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Idoghor Melody was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 12:42, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, MardiGrasCantab! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 12:42, 1 June 2022 (UTC)