User talk:Marine 69-71/Archive 48

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Happy New Year!

Hope your new year will be peaceful, happy, and prosperous! TomStar81 (Talk) 07:23, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

The U.S. Barnstar of National Merit
In recognition of your outstanding record of service and your profound contributions to the United States of America and to this project. Both are better and richer because of you. X4n6 (talk) 08:28, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
    • No sir. Thank you. You absolutely deserve it. To be honest, I was actually going to award you two barnstars. But I couldn't find one for Puerto Rico, which of course, would have been appropriate. So I was disappointed, actually. I was looking here.

But today I discovered something. Therefore, please see below. X4n6 (talk) 04:25, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

A Second Barnstar for you!

The Puerto Rico National Merit Medal
In recognition of your outstanding record of service and your profound contributions por el Estado Libre Asociado de Puerto Rico / the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico and this project. Including your creation of this very Barnstar. As such, there can be no more deserving recipient of it. Both the country and the project continue to be better and richer because of you. X4n6 (talk) 04:25, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
this WikiAward was given to Marine 69-71 by X4n6 (talk) on 04:25, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Now, it's right. Til next time. Best regards. X4n6 (talk) 04:25, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

notice of AFD

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of historic properties in Williams, Arizona. You are welcome to respond there. I truly, deeply, do not understand you and your apparent quest to create wp:OR about historic properties in Arizona. I would strongly prefer for you to contribute constructively within the existing framework of articles about NRHP-listed historic districts, instead. Sincerely, --Doncram (talk) 23:49, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!

Tony, you remain a class act. Thank you very much for the lovely acknowledgement. I'm deeply honored and will continue trying to earn it. Continued best and warm regards. X4n6 (talk) 10:59, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Soldier

Hello Tony, hope my message finds you well.

U.S. Major Albert L. Myer was mayor of Ponce, Puerto Rico, immediately after the American invasion of 1898. He was American, most likely appointed by one the military governor of PR at the time, either Miles, Brooke, Henry or Davis, with the blessing of McKinley. Is there a way to find out what battalion he was with, where (in the US) he was born, place of death, etc. (I suspect b. ca. 1850 - d. ca. 1920, but that's just a wild +/- 20 yrs guess.) I suspect you have tools for searching military records. For example, since the American barracks in Ponce were at Cuartel Militar, somewhere (in the US military libraries) are the records as to how this major was governing the city (at the time, Ponce was Puerto Rico's largest city). Can you point me in the right direction as to where this major's bio, if you will, can be found? Just his place and date of birth and his place and date of death would be a huge step forward. Thanks! Mercy11 (talk) 02:27, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Holy Lord!! I was only expecting some tip, and you blew my mind with that wealth in information!! Thanks a million!! Warmest regards my amigo, Mercy11 (talk) 14:04, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Article updated, Albert L. Myer. Added his ranks and insignias, but not sure if they meet the standards of the WP military project (or yours). btw, I couldn't find a link to General Swan. Take a look if you will, and clean it up as needed. Thanks again! Mercy11 (talk) 01:44, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Haha, I wasn't sure if only the highest rank was to be included in the infobox, but I guess listing the two is correct now that you've seen the article. Thanks for your updates - had a busy day at work today. Once more thanks a million - now all we need is his picture and it's ready for prime time - haha. Best regards, Mercy11 (talk) 00:25, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Fuerte de San José

I invite you to take a look at this new article, Fuerte de San José, and perhaps you have some additional ideas. I haven't come across any pictures of the place, certainly none PD, but would be good if I could find at least one of the site plan or silhouette of the structure. IAE, if the Spanish had fortified the South better, I doubt the Americans would had succeed (assuming no traitors, of course, of which there seemed to be many). Cheers, Mercy11 (talk) 03:35, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Book

Amigo, THIS book was published before 1923. As such, all pics in it are PD. Captures can be done either by taking a pic of the pic, by Windows Snipping Tool, scanning the pic from the actual hardcopy book from a library, etc. A treasure trove of military information is found in it; unfortunately nothing about Fuerte de San Jose even though several dozen pics in it were take just yards from the fort - a full 7 years before it was demolished. Mercy11 (talk) 02:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

You got that right. All the pics in that book are PD. You can upload copies of any of those pictures as long as you post the books info. Too bad about the fuerte being demolished, man I would have loved to visit it. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:57, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
On second thought... Maybe uploading the entire book (like I mentioned before) is not a wise way of spending one's time. I did find one book and uploaded some of it's images. Thanks Tony again, for being a good anchor, a good place to visit for ideas. --Level C (talk) 00:33, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
@Mercy11: Captures are not needed. Try this: 1) Download the file 2) Open the .pdf file and do "File / Save as HTML" and let it rip. After a few minutes of "processing" you will find a folder on your computer with all the images separated into files. I did it and it created 423 separate .JPEG files, each one with an image that the computer pulled from a page. You'll end up with 423 files in the folder called "Images" and each will be named by (file name "fotosprourislandsres_img + a running number). example: fotosprourislandslres_img_423 <--- is the last file that was saved in my images folder when I did file / save as .html. As the boss said, you'll have to add the info re: the book, manually, as you're uploading each file.--Level C (talk) 21:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
great trick! Mercy11 (talk) 22:49, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
@Mercy11: You can use this table, you can copy it to your sandbox if you like. It's an easy way to track the project as you 1) rename each image file; give each a more appropriate name 2) upload the file 3) write descriptions of the image. If you want any help let me know. This would be a fun project to work on. I'm also busy but still, it'd be fun. They don't call it March Madness for nothing. :) Level C (talk) 00:29, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Will see. Really busy on another project. Tony, sorry to be taking over your page here; this should be it. Mercy11 (talk) 00:42, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
OK. Level C (talk) 02:45, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
You both are my good friends, therefore I do not mind sharing my "talk" page. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:27, 20 March 2019 (UTC).
Thank you. I consider you both friends as well. I was tinkering with WIKISOURCE, the free library and learned, just yesterday, how to do an automatic upload of a book to 1) commons so that then it can be included in 2) Wikisource English / Spanish / Polish, etc.. I guess these books can go in Commons and then be used in Wikisource Spanish, for example under Spain and Puerto Rico, since those are the book categories, I guess. And maybe some of the PD books should be entirely uploaded to commons for use across wikis, i.e. in Wikisource Spanish- especially shorter books, picture books, historical books.... I've done an auto upload of a short book to commons twice, once with the IA Uploader tool and once page by page. FYI, "Talk pages" are underused and is a topic of conversation, as we speak, here. You both have a nice weekend... --Level C (talk) 14:00, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the acknowledgement!

Thanks!!! I just got approval for the WP:AWB tool so that helps me scan and update pages a little easier. I just this saw and wanted to share it with you and @Mercy11:. The population of Malezas then and now. Anyway, I want to make some maps for the barrio and river articles. Did you see this cool list? List of cays and islets of Puerto Rico - it's nice to click on the cays coordinates and then use the "Zoom Earth" map function and you go right to the island. It's cool. So, I like the Ponce river maps but I don't have the software for that. I'll keep cleaning up articles until I find a way to make maps. There's so much missing information on Puerto Rico. The job will never end. :) Re: the 1072 population number, maybe it's time for us to play a number - me 'sta que va a salir! --Level C (talk) 23:58, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

I saw 1072 again today! But I didn't play it! Level C (talk) 20:56, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Wow, Level C I just looked at the list for the first time. I knew that there was a "Cayo Ratones" but never imagined a "Roca Cucaracha". You live and learn I always say that life is a continuous learning process. Take care and keep up the excellent work. Tony the Marine (talk) 01:33, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
And. Thank you for all that you do and have done for Puerto Rico, and for veterans, and for Wikipedia. We do learn something new every day, like that you have your own page. Have a nice Spring and Summer. Here we go!--Level C (talk) 12:59, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

I like the way you think!

Bunny Barnstar (sans Barnstar)
Thank you for your service and hard Wikipedia work. I hope you and your family and friends are okay, considering everything that has happened in Puerto Rico.

Take care of yourself first so you don't burn out on WP & the Commons! I like your essay on your Commons page and your pictures of historical buildings in Pheonix. I'm sure I'd like more if I looked around a bit more.

We need more people like you around here, so...bring in more people like you as fast as rabbits reproduce? I dunno. I just like bunnies. Heh! Geekdiva (talk) 16:05, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

My first Bunny Barnstar. I am truly honored, thank you.`Tony the Marine (talk) 00:31, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome
Ten years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Tony, please take a look at this discussion here. Thanks. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 11:12, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Thank you for letting me know about the issue involved. The situation is that no matter what I say, someone will always cry "Canvassing" even if that is not the case since no one asked me to either vote "Keep" or "Delete". Take care my Marine brother, Semper Fi. Tony the Marine (talk) 16:03, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Tony, as always I appreciate your input. I don't think a lot of people think through the challenges and accomplishments of those who serve(d). Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 19:17, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
You got that right, my brother. I really can't understand all the fuzz and why they've made it such an issue. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:58, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Tony! I know the Navy and the Marines work together on those ships... sometimes out at sea for months at a time. The Navy is doing some outreach in Puerto Rico this month. Here's the article: https://www.outreach.navy.mil/Navy-Weeks/Puerto-Rico/fbclid/IwAR1gwpppjefysEfNc6IGDGxGWkTrdxJ9mM1o15H2NDIMWTb81TmYYzWd0CY/ Enjoy your week. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 15:31, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

  • The Eloquent Peasant, Thank you for the link. I served on two ships during my service. Both were loaded with equipment used in Vietnam and that were covered with Agent Orange. I guarded Machine guns and vehicles. Now, get this, Forty-five years later the government admitted that the Marines that came into contact with equipment on ships used in Vietnam were also exposed to Agent Orange. In my case I was not only exposed to Agent Orange, but my platoon was taken to a hill near the Pacific Ocean in Okinawa where the U.S. detonated a nuclear device (bomb). Therefore, my troops had been exposed to Agent Orange and Nuclear Radiation. The government recognized this and I am paying the price. However, I am proud to have been in the Marines and to have continued in my family tradition. Tony the Marine (talk) 02:14, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
That's really awful stuff. It's an honorable career but it sometimes comes with a very heavy price. Not easy. Be well. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 02:23, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Date of Birth for La La Anthony?

Hi, Tony. Please cast your mind waaay back, to 2005. You created the La La Anthony article, and included a date of birth. You did not give a reference for it. But now 14 years later, a person claiming to be La La Anthony says that this date is incorrect. Do you happen to remember where that date came from?

Our problem is that we now have a bunch of allegedly reliable sources for the date. However, none of them predate the creation of the article, so they could all have been copying from the article or from each other, and the date is now in other places including other Wikipedias and Wikidata.

My own first edits were in 2006, and I know our methods have evolved quite a bit since then. I also know I would have difficulties remembering the details of a source from then, but if you can help out I would appreciate it. -Arch dude (talk) 06:42, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

  • Thank you for letting me know. I can't recall, my age is catching up to me, however I can assure you that I must have had an excellent source at the time to post June 25, 1979. I believe that it should stay as is because it was confirmed in "La La Anthony Bio: Her Story In Her Words – Video Exclusive, News, Photos" on February 12, 2014. Now, anyone can contact Wikipedia and claim to be whom ever they want to be to make changes, but unless that person provides proof or any evidence of whom they claim to be and that their allegations are proven to be truthful, then I believe that we can't do anything about it.
  • I had a situation once where the lawyer son of an underworld figure which I wrote about, wanted to have the article written in a way that it would favor his father otherwise he threaten to sue me. I made it clear that the information in the article came from reliable sources and that if he and his father were to sue anybody, it should be the media which provided the sources for the article. I never heard from them again. Tony the Marine (talk) 07:20, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Greetings

Nothing fancy...just "Saludos" in Marines' Day! Mercy11 (talk) 22:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Gracias mi buen amigo, I hope you're doing fine. Tony the Marine (talk) 00:14, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Barreto

For the experts. Mercy11 (talk) 01:36, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

  • I believe the unregistered user may be right. According to the Hall of Valor Project, Barreto was awarded two Silver Star medals instead of three. It is still quite a feat when we take into account that he was also awarded 5 Bronze Star medals. Tony the Marine (talk) 01:46, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

CNPR & Notability

Hi Tony, It's not clear to me what Certificados de Nacionalidad Puertorriqueña has to do with Notability in this edit. Thx, Mercy11 (talk) 03:17, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

  • Ha, great question. I really do not know if I was right in adding that statement. I just wanted to let those who do not know who is and who is not Puerto Rican to understand that, in accordance to the law, there is a Puerto Rican citizenship which states that those who are born outside of Puerto Rico to Puerto Rican parents are Puerto Rican. And that is why many notable Boricuas born outside of the island qualify to be included in the list. Maybe I went a little to far this time and to be honest I won't mind if you removed it. I will be totally fine with that because I unconditionally trust your judgment. Tu buen amigo (smile) Tony the Marine (talk) 05:13, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

WHY?

I noticed that there are 148 Wikipedia users who have my user page on their "watchlist" and I ask myself why? I believe that some have good intentions, but what's the deal with the others? This seems to me as something that should be considered as stalking. Since I am being "watched" and those watching are right now reading this message, I would like for them to be honest and let me know what are their intentions in doing so. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:46, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Message from William Cumpiano

Dear Tony,

Our Puerto Rican Cuatro Project has a treasury of interviews and data about famed cuatristas of the past as well as data on topics related to Puerto Rican craft traditions and instrument-makers. However in an early attempt to contribute some of it to Wikipedia, I was discouraged by an apparent rule that people are not allowed to submit their own research, but only cite research made by others. No one but us has this material. So does that mean that it cannot be included in Wikipedia? How can I make this data available to wiki readers? Contact me at william@cumpiano.com

Best wishes,

cumpiano (talk) 18:12, 18 July 2019 (UTC)William Cumpianocumpiano (talk) 18:12, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

  • I know what you mean, my friend. The rules in Wikipedia are getting stricter and one of them is that they don't allow personal research because if they do there will be many POV "point of view" edits made which they consider not to be encyclopedic. What they want is that any material that is added to an article cite a reliable verifiable source. The type of sources that they want cited are Newspapers, Magazines and so on. Here is an example of an article which I wrote with the proper sources: Military history of Puerto Rico. Tony the Marine (talk) 01:56, 19 July 2019 (UTC)


(talk page stalker) @Cumpiano:. As far as I am concerned anything in this Cuatro page here is acceptable as WP:RS. If this is the project you are talking about, I think what you want to do in your article(s) is cite that site on the the third person, not on the first, thus disassociating yourself from the research performed by that site. I have been wanting to create several article on the PR cuatro and everything that goes with it - just haven't had the time it deserves/requires. I'll put your page in my Watchlist so I can help a bit as my time allows. Hope this helps! Mercy11 (talk) 02:03, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Rita Moreno

Hi. I believe biographies are one of your interests. I thought you might be interested in this:

https://www.primerahora.com/entretenimiento/farandula/nota/pbspreparadocumentalsobreritamoreno-1355523/

take care, Mercy11 (talk) 22:46, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Batalla del Asomante

Hi. From your "neck of the woods" and hot off the oven! Hope you find it interesting:

https://www.periodicolaperla.com/132294-2/

take care, Mercy11 (talk) 14:59, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi,

THE GRAN FINALE, PART 2 OF 2.

Mercy11 (talk) 14:22, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Certificado de Ciudadanía Puertorriqueña

Hi Tony, in an effort to help instruct others regarding ciudadania puertorriqueña, for years now I had been wanting to update the Certificate of Puerto Rican forms I uploaded back in Jmundo's days (2010). The new forms are here and here. Note these are true scans, not pictures as before, thus the forms are entirely flat and came be read from corner to corner without any of the negative visual effects introduced by the 2010 photography. IMO these are better images than before. If you agree, back in the days, Jmundo put the 2 pages together into a single "montage" file without loosing any resolution (for the most part). (That's the file you have been using, for example, here). Photo montage is, however, a technique I haven't been able to fully master yet. If you have mastered image montages, feel free to join the two into a single file. I will either get around it soon, and hopefully it won't be several more years before I can learn to manipulate it to look like Jmundo's contribution and legacy. thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 08:14, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Split

Hi Tony, I am looking at this, and it says

"Articles to be split

07 Apr 2019 – Puerto Rico (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for splitting by Moxy (t · c); see discussion"

However, when I follow the "discussion" link, it simply goes here, not to any discussion, and I don't see a discussion on that page either. I looked at that page's Archives for the timeframe around 7 April 2019, and couldn't find anything split discussion either.

Am I missing something? Do you know what's going on?

Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 01:47, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

  • I don't get it either. That user who nominated the split must have a bad sense of humor. Maybe we should start a discussion and protest the ridiculous idea of splitting the article. What do you think? Tony the Marine (talk) 04:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Of course, any editor can nominate any article for anything. I was just a bit confused because when you go the the PR article, there is nothing I can find there about the split nomination, even in teh talk pages or archives. Also confused as to why that nomination hadn't been closed after so many months. thx Mercy11 (talk) 02:23, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
BTW, the split on the P.R. was in a Hurricane Maria section. The editor put the split tag to split the Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico into its own article. Sorry I didn't chime in here sooner- I've been overwhelmed with work and stuff. But, I was so confused too and then I found the tag in the Hurricane Maria section of the Puerto Rico article and I removed it.--The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 22:22, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the removal of the tag The Eloquent Peasant. You did the right thing. Tony the Marine (talk) 22:51, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
YW!--The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 22:53, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:05, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Patagonia, AZ

I've tweaked a bit on your recent article List of historic properties in Patagonia, Arizona. Thanks for your work there (I tweaked a few bits there). I lived in Patagonia from 1974 through 1977 while working on a mining prospect on Red Mountain. Loved the town and surrounding area. Semper fi. Vsmith (talk) 00:03, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

AfroCine: Join the Months of African Cinema this October!

Greetings!

After a successful first iteration of the “Months of African Cinema” last year, we are happy to announce that it will be happening again this year, starting from October 1! In the 2018 edition of the contest, about 600 Wikipedia articles were created in at least 8 languages. There were also contributions to Wikidata and Wikimedia commons, which brought the total number of wikimedia pages created during the contest to over 1,000.

The AfroCine Project welcomes you to October, the first out of the two months which have been dedicated to creating and improving content that centre around the cinema of Africa, the Caribbean, and the diaspora. Join us in this global edit-a-thon, by helping to create or expand articles which are connected to this scope. Also remember to list your name under the participants section.

On English Wikipedia, we would be recognizing participants in the following manner:

  • Overall winner (1st, 2nd, 3rd places)
  • Diversity winner
  • Gender-gap fillers

For further information about the contest, the recognition categories and how to participate, please visit the contest page here. For further inquiries, please leave comments on the contest talkpage or on the main project talkpage. See you around :).--Jamie Tubers (talk) 00:50, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

My additions on Short Descriptions

Hi Tony, I just wanted to mention that I've been working on the Short Descriptions of P.R. articles and I saved the best for last, the military men and women from Puerto Rico. I wanted to say that a short description should be short. Then, I don't always know exactly what to place as an article's short description. If you want to change any of them, feel free of course. Take care! --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 16:05, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Look my Favorite Jibarita, I have been noticing the excellent work that you have been doing with the short descriptions, especially on the 650+ articles that I have written about Puerto Rico and its people. I couldn't be more pleased with your work and I trust your judgement to the point that I do not even check your edits. You keep on doing your excellent work here, you may not realize this but, you are helping to put our people and island en "ALTO" with what you do and for that I thank you. We truly need more Boricuas like you here. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:01, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
I was just trying to fix some things and wish the best for our little island, and its people. I miss the food!
Grilled snapper
--The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 20:15, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
When we first moved to Arizona 30 years ago, there were already 9.000 Boricuas living here. A total of 15 members of the family moved here. Puerto Rican food is what we always eat here. Currently, all the supermarkets have "Hispanic" sections and even sell Productos Goya "Si es Goya tiene que ser bueno". There are PR restaurants and bakery. There are even Cuban businesses which sell sandwishes Cubano. There are many Puerto Rican professionals such as doctors here. All my grandchildren are either half German or Irish. I call them the Bori-Gringos. Even though they look like they are from Sweden, they are proud of their Puerto Rican blood and identify themselves as Puerto Ricans from the Santiago clan. Mi Jibarita, if you are ever in Arizona, let me know, O.K? Tony the Marine (talk) 20:54, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
It's possible! I go out there sometimes to visit family, near Phoenix. I'll definitely let you know so we can meet face to face. :O) My family too, married other country's natives and had kids, so when we get together we all look so different: Costa Rican, Polish, German, Peruvian, Italian, Chinese, Samoan, Egyptian, African American, "Mennonite", Chilean, Russian, Pakistani, Colombian, and of course, just plain Puerto Rican. :O) --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 23:58, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

I BELIEVE

I believe that at this time and age, Wikipedia should require that all those who wish to edit or add to our project should be registered users. It is easy for an unregistered user to vandalize an article which many of us have gone through a lot of trouble to write, then immediately make a copy as if that is what was truly written, thereby dis-crediting our project and adding to the reality that ours is an unreliable encyclopedia. The fact is that the majority of the vandalism is caused by un-registered users who have nothing better to do with their lives. If Wikipedia wants to keep it's good and honest contributors who love to share their knowledge with the world in general and wants to gain some sense of being a reliable encyclopedia, then it must do something to protect it's contributors and the articles which they have written from the constant vandalism going on, otherwise what's the use of staying here? Tony the Marine (talk) 19:22, 9 October 2019 (UTC)'

Why you edited joaquin phoenix is Puerto Rican?

He is American. His parents are American. He grew up mainly in the United States. He doesn't have Puerto Rica ancestry. Please don't edited like that. Woww34 (talk) 14:59, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

You always edited like that. Don't do that. He is American. His parents are American. He grew up mainly in the United States. He doesn't have Puerto Rica ancestry. Woww34 (talk) 15:12, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

History 101

Excuse me, but no one said that he is not an "American"! So are the millions of people born in Puerto Rico whose parents migrated there of other backgrounds. It doesn't matter if you lived one day or 100 years for that matter in Puerto Rico. Joaquin Phoenix is Puerto Rican like it or not! Puerto Rican is a nationality and not a race like so many racist people like to believe. Wikipedia is not about what you like or do not like. It is about facts plain and simple as that. Every person born in Puerto Rico is an American citizen with limitations including Phoenix.

Puerto Rican nationality was recognized in 1898 after Spain ceded the island to the United States as a result of the Spanish-American War. On April 12, 1900, the Congress of the United States enacted the Foraker Act of 1900. Section VII of this act created a Puerto Rican citizenship for the residents "born in Puerto Rico and, therefore, subject to its jurisdiction".[1] In 1917, the United States granted Puerto Ricans U.S. citizenship without the requirement that the islanders renounce their PR citizenship. Since then, everyone born in Puerto Rico are both Puerto Ricans and U.S. citizens. However, in Puerto Rico, Puerto Ricans do not enjoy full U.S. citizenship rights because their rights as such are limited (For example: they can not vote in the Presidential elections). Puerto Ricans do not need to renounce either of the citizenships and do not need a passport to go to the continental United States and once there can participate in every activity as every other U.S. citizen.[2][3] According to the United States Supreme Court, Puerto Rico belongs to but is not part of the United States.[4]

There is a common misconception that all Puerto Ricans are of Hispanic background. The confusion stems from people automatically associating the term 'Puerto Rican' (nationality) with the term 'Hispanic' (ethnicity). Even though the primary ethnicity in Puerto Rico is Hispanic,[5] there are numerous other ethnic groups which make up the Puerto Rican nationality. There are many Puerto Ricans of African, Corsican, French, Irish, German, Chinese, Dutch, Lebanese and of Jewish descent, among others.[6]

Now, that you have had your lesson on history, provide and cite a source where Phoenix renounces being labeled as a Puerto Rican. Can't find one? then stop making changes to your POV because a lot of people here are getting tired of what they consider constant vandalism with the removal of facts. There is nothing shameful about being a Puerto Rican. I myself am proud of my being called a Puerto Rican even though I was born and raised in New York of "Puerto Rican" parents with a Spanish and Corsican ancestral background. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:49, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

My personal opinion based on facts

Ignorance is the main root of racism. It amazes me how at this time and age some people in the United States react to the term of "Puerto Rican" as if it was a capital sin or disease. Yet, you never hear from anyone acting the same way when the term such as "African-American', Irish-American" and so on, which has kept or nation divided by what seems to be a cast system, is used. I mean, does the term "Polish-American" for example mean that the person in question was born and raised in Poland? There are many people who use this term, not because they have ever lived in Poland, but because a distant relative, maybe 5 generations away, came from there. Some people just can't accept the fact that a notable person born in Puerto Rico is a Puerto Rican.

Even though the people of Puerto Rico automatically have "American Citizenship" with certain limitations when they are born, Puerto Rican is still a nationality with it's own citizenship, plain and simple as that. If these same people would take the time to read about the true history of our nation they would have realized that the people of that small island have made many great contributions to our nation and that Puerto Ricans have fought and defended the rights of our nation in every conflict from the American Revolution to the present-day military conflicts. Thousands of Puerto Ricans have sacrificed and given their lives so that our fellow countrymen can continue to enjoy the rights which we are entitled to. Therefore, next time a person wants to express him or herself in a negative way about the people of Puerto Rico, read your history books first, it may keep you from being an ignorant person. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:42, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Epilogue

Hi Tony. The "Key people" section in the infobox of this article (Independence movement in Puerto Rico) seemed to be getting out of hand, and I cleaned it up a bit. You are probably more familiar than I am with the rest of the names there. I didn't feel De Tio and Barcelo should be on that list either but decided to draw the line there for now. Please review my edits there when you get a chance and adjust (add/remove) as needed. Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 03:37, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

BTW, there seems to be a problem with the format of your Talk Page: I gave this section a title, and in fact it's listed in your TOC, but it didn't sectionalize your talk page accordingly. Mercy11 (talk) 03:40, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

I was able to overcome the section title format problem by raising the level of my section. Still, I think there's a problem with the way your Talk Page is handling section displays (or its lack of them!). Mercy11 (talk) 03:47, 29 October 2019 (UTC)   Fixed

I Will Call You!

Tony I will call you very soon! I am doing 20 things at once, but it's mostly good. i look forward to updating you on my whirling dervish life. I hope you are well, taking photos, playing with the grandkids, enjoying the life you have earned! lots of love and I PROMISE I'll call you soon. --Nelson

Caridad de la Luz

Tony, I worked hard on the Caridad de la Luz page.

An editor removed this movie poster that was already validly uploaded in Wikipedia, saying there was "insufficient rationale" for using the movie poster...even though the New York Times stated that Caridad de la Luz starred in the movie. The citation for the New York Times was there too.

Okay, I let it go.

But now this editor just slapped a Template on the article, saying that it has "serious issues."

That is allegedly is not "encyclopedic"...when I provide citations for every single fact!

He also says the footnotes are wrong...I do not see any major problems with the footnotes.

I am already close to violating the 3-revert rule, and I do not want to engage in an edit war with this idiot.

Could you take a look when you get a chance?

The irony is...when the article was a stub with only 3 citations (one of them a dead link) there was no problem, no template. NOW that the article is more thorough and rigorous, with 62 footnotes...NOW they claim there is a problem.

Thanks for any help you can give!

--Nelson

Thanks, Tony!

Hey, you moved fast!

Thank you, godfather!

--Nelson

User:Sarason

I looked at the File:Posterbone.jpg and saw that there is a rationale created for "Non-free media information and use rationale for Down to the Bone (film)", but none for the use on Caridad's article. You will have to go and create and additional rationale similar to this:

  • {{Non-free use rationale |Article=Caridad de la Luz |Description=New York Times Film poster starring Caridad de la Luz |Source=http://www.downtothebonethefilm.com/ |Portion=Entire poster |Low_resolution=Low-rez and greatly reduced |Purpose=To identify the fact that Caridad de la Luz who has an encyclopedic article in Wikipedia starred in the production of Done to the Bone. |Replaceability=Irreplaceable |other_information= }}

Tony the Marine (talk) 16:25, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Non-Free Use Rationale plus photo for Caridad

Thanks Tony, I will do that and use this Non-Free Use Rationale template. It's been a while, so I don't know (or maybe forgot) where I'm supposed to file this. If you send me a Link, I will certainly file this...and thanks again!

I may see Caridad over the next few weeks. If I do, I'll suggest we take a photo. Then I'll read up on how to e-mail her permission to Wiki Commons, and we'll be able to upload.

I can upload if you want (after reading up on how to it again ...it's been a long time!) but first I'll run my uploading page by you (if that's okay with you) to make sure that I'm doing it correctly.

Sarason (talk) 19:25, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Change to your edits at eth PR WikiProject Standards Talk Page

Tony, in this edit I tried fixing 2 of your cites because they had blank references. Please take a look and make sure what I did was what you intended. If not, feel free to revert me. Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 00:22, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

References

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Please undo your reversion, Otis Sistrunk, US Marine

In the linked reference it states, “Sistrunk went straight into the Marines after high school”. echo7tango (talk) 10:42, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

  Done - You are right, and I was wrong. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:52, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

CHQ

Tony, seems he is no longer MIA after Maria, which is a good news. See activity here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ACaribbean_H.Q.&type=revision&diff=928692241&oldid=925141873 Mercy11 (talk) 01:18, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Feliz Navidad, Prospero Año y Felicidad...

 

Gracias por todo lo que hiciste este año!!!! Felicidades a ti y a tu familia. Y aqui vive una familia puertorriqueña. Gracias.

Feliz Navidad!

 
Merry Christmas! Hope yours is joyful. TomStar81 (Talk) 23:57, 25 December 2019 (UTC)