Mark Thompson02

Ramsbottom

Hi, I noticed your edit to the above article adding information Rossendale. Unfortunately, what you've added is unsourced so I've provisionally removed it. It's Wikipedia policy to provide details of where information has come from so that readers can check for themselves. So you have articles such as Ashton-under-Lyne with a bibliography at the end, page numbers where book references are used, and links to websites when they're a source of information. If you can provide sources, the information can be re-added (it's good practise to include sources whenever you edit) although the issue of Ramsbottom being split between two boroughs may need to be discussed further as the there seems to be some confusion over the situation. Anyway, welcome to Wikipedia. Nev1 (talk) 12:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

I see where you're coming from, but the problem is that what you've got is a lot of speculation which doesn't really amount to much. If there's a reputable source that states Ramsbottom spans two districts that would clear up the situation very quickly. Telephone codes, post codes, rotary clubs and the like are not really relevant. There are places in Trafford with a Warrington post code, but that doesn't mean they're part of Warrington. Nev1 (talk) 18:53, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

I have tried, as neutrally as I can, to show what happened to Ramsbottom in the Governance section. It is not disputed that a small part of Ramsbottom was left out of the Bury MBC but the major part was in Bury and that is what this article is about.--J3Mrs (talk) 19:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

It's a good thing that you're passionate about your town, that's how a number of people started on Wikipedia. If, as you say, the information is on the Bury website it would be helpful to provide links. It's not user friendly, but after some searching I found this map of the ward boundaries and this page with the boundaries of the districts. It shows that Summerseat is not in the Ramsbottom ward. If it comes down to a question of what is more useful to describe a place (ie: whether it's in abc ward or xyz district) I'm not sure which to choose. Perhaps it would be better to describe a place by its borough and position in relation to nearby towns. Mistakes are made, but we're trying to make Wikipedia better. Nev1 (talk) 21:28, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I'm sorry if this is against etiquette, but I just wanted to wade in on the second link that you have provided surrounding "district boundaries." It's in response to Mark Thompson's revert of my changing of 'district' to 'ward'- which turns out to have been erroneous, since I placed it in the wrong ward. I've made a comment about it on Summerseat's talk page. Thanks. Tong22 (talk) 01:42, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

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Ramsbottom in Rossendale

I have amended the Ramsbottom page with further sources that show its cultural and geographical links with Rossendale. We all agree that that Ramsbottom is not in the Rossendale Borough however the borough was cobbled together in 1974 and bears no relation to traditional ties,sporting links etc. Its an ongoing project of mine to dig deep and find all Ramsbottoms links with the other Valley towns of Rossendale.Watch this space.

Wlkipedia. Wikipedia internal editor J3Mrs abusing position of trust within Wikipedia.

I have recently included an update to clarify the Ramsbottom Page in Wikipedia. It was taken from the "Bury Official Guide - Millennium edition". It said on the Ramsbottom page (page 30)the town was "lying at the opening of the Rossendale valley".I put this in good faith onto Wikipedia and named my source. Wikipedia's J3Mrs removed it and said "not what ref says".Well J3Mrs you are blatantly lying for I have the Guide in my hand.I subsequently can only conclude that you are abusing your position of power within Wikipedia.Respond please.My source is absolute and unchallengeable. "Mark Thompson02 (talk) 13:01, 26 September 2010 (UTC)"

I have no position on Wikipedia, and it is unacceptable to accuse me of abusing it or "blatantly lying". If you have a source you add it to a bibliography and quote the author, ISBN and page number. If you need help doing it you could ask in a more restrained and polite manner.--J3Mrs (talk) 13:13, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

J3Mrs - You are abusing your power within wikipedia.Remove my contribution again and I will report you for abuse of power !

Dear J3Mrs. You clearly have an agenda regarding my contributions to Wikipedia. As you know I am passionate about Ramsbottoms position in the Rossendale Valley. You appear to want to eradicate all of Ramsbottom's links with Rossendale on Wikipedia.You say Ramsbottom is in the Irwell Valley.You are quite true.However the Rossendale Valley is the Valley of the River Irwell in the North the two names can be said to be interchangeable. Ramsbottoms links with Rossendale(past and present are as follows- Ramsbottom was part of Rossendale Parliamentary Constituency 1918-1983.Ramsbottom UDC transport department shared its General Manager with Rossendale Joint Transport committee prior to its abolition in 1969 and the tranfer of is operations to SELNEC.Ramsbottoms Community Radio station is Rossendale Radio.Ramsbottoms Daily Paper is the Lancashire Telegraph(Rossendale Edition).Ramsbottoms Weekly local paper is the Rossendale free Press.Need I go on with Ramsbottom's links to Roseendale? However what as got me seething with fury was your removal of my contribution from Bury councils "Bury Official Guide - Millennium Edition"On Page 30 of this Guide it says "Ramsbottom is the most northerly of the six towns that make up the Metropolitan Borough.Lying at the opening of the Rossendale Valley it is four miles north of Bury centre".I inserted this on the Ramsbottom Page of wikipedia you removed it WHY ???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark Thompson02 (talk • contribs) 12:19, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

I moved this rant to your page to show you I had read it. Unlike you, I have no agenda with the Ramsbottom article, as with all the articles I edit I keep to a strictly neutral and unbiased point of view. The citation at the end of the bit I removed made no mention of Rossendale. From what you say you appear to have cited via the edit summary which I hadn't read and is not an acceptable means of referencing an article.--J3Mrs (talk) 13:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Holcolme Hunt

Hi, I spotted the Ramsbottom article and it looks good, great photos! I noted the mention of the Holcolme Hunt, it is connected to Rivington also, do you have more details about the hunt? I think it is the Boxing day hunt meeting at Rivington Hall, its been an event for hundreds of years there but not mentioned in the Rivington article or for that matter my own web page regarding Rivington history, it is something I have overlooked, hope to hear from you. --PL.-Snr (talk) 01:23, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

A quick follow up I have just looked to wikipedia for details about the Hunt, not much at all, just a small mention at Holcombe,_Greater_Manchester --PL.-Snr (talk) 01:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Summerseat in Ramsbottom (reply)

Hello, and thank you for taking the time to write to me. Firstly, it doesn't matter where I live, I've enough resources at my disposal to make an informed decision. Secondly, you needn't describe the The Bury Council website to me either; I'm already quite acquainted with it. And finally, I'm fine with it being described as 'the Ramsbottom area of Bury district' or something of that ilk. Also, the website doesn't call the Partnership areas "districts." I can't find anything that confirms that subsets of Bury district (borough) are also referred to as districts. Thanks. Tong22 (talk) 00:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)