User talk:Marokwitz/Archives/2010/October


Judaism and bus stops

I did not see you nominate Judaism and Violence for SD. Apart from Judaism and Violence being inappropriate, surely such a page is not in accordance with policies? Or is it? Chesdovi (talk) 12:26, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Disrupting Wikipedia to prove a point might get you blocked by somebody without a sense of humor, that would be sad. There are many articles starting with "Judaism and", some are notable topics, some are not. Marokwitz (talk) 12:36, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Herem

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Scope of Racism in the Palestinian territories

Hi. I've attempted to systematize the discussion on the scope of Racism in the Palestinian territories with regard to racism by Israeli settlers and soldiers at Talk:Racism in the Palestinian territories#Proposed resolutions. This debate does not concern whether such racism exists, merely whether it is an appropriate part of the article. Issues of WP:POLICY are currently being discussed. You've previously addressed the issue. Please contribute your opinion.--Carwil (talk) 23:15, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Judaism and violence for deletion

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October 2010

  Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on 1948 Palestine war. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You are welcome to rephrase your comment as a civil criticism of the article. Thank you.

In the links that are provided in the talk page, there are the information about the dates. Take care to read them fully and you could find them. You can also wait for the WE if you prefer : I will write the "quote" from them this WE. Note that I provided directly the link in google book. I didn't just give the page in book reference.

Don't come and give lessons of collaboration to me. When I write an article, I give all the points of views. Not just the one that I want to read or to advertise for. That is long and hard job at each time.

91.180.143.179 (talk) 14:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

91.180.143.179! Don't attack the person comment on his or her workSalamaat (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:00, 11 October 2010 (UTC).

Islamism sidebar

Hi, I saw you removed the {{dn}} template from the {{Islamism sidebar}} without actually fixing the link. Do you think the Justice and Development Party links should go to the disambig, or the Turkish party article, or ...? This needs to actually be resolved; otherwise I'll have to put the {{dn}} template back. --JaGatalk 09:58, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, can you point me to the diff? I don't recall editing that sidebar. Marokwitz (talk) 11:50, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Here you go. It was in the history, ya know. --JaGatalk 15:56, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Now I see. It was not an intentional change. Feel free to put the template back. Marokwitz (talk) 19:09, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Racism in the Palestinian territories lead

I agree with grouping the two sentences together, but have other thoughts on Talk. Cheers! --Carwil (talk) 01:58, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

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Hello to you

Cheers for your cont. on Racism in the Palestinian territories Here's my edit [1] Please see it, I don't know why Carwill and Zero0000 edit war' it.

I am recovering data omitted w/o reasoning and adding valuable information, such:

  1. 1) Hamas' propaganda found in antisemitic Ilan Halimi incident.
  2. 2) Ex- Nazi Bonian soldiers came to Palestine (as qtd from B. Morris).
  3. 3) Author Showal.
  4. 4) Noted author about Hamas' mickey-mouse resembling Nazi Racial hatred.
  5. 5) YNet about 'apartheid palestine.'
  6. 6) Hamas racism as charged by the Kurds.
  7. 7) Peter Hitchens of the Daily Mial on racist graffiti in the territories. (added by another user)

Federalostt (talk) 12:18, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, there is an obvious NPOV problem with some of your edits, so I agree with the reverts. You need to add the material in a more balanced way. As one example, the allegations that Amin al-Husayni was antisemitic should be balanced by the opinions of other scholars (such as Idith Zertal) which say that the accusations are exaggerated. Obviously this topic is relevant to the article but you need to insert it in a different way. Marokwitz (talk) 12:52, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
I just added to my edit the balancing view "other side" that refutes that Mufti was a real anti-semite, included your gist lead words, but please see the following items, one by one!!! vital for the article:
  1. 1) Pre Mandate Palestine, with noted William Bernard Ziff, Sr. on racism by Bedouins against Fellaheen.
  2. 2) Hamas' propaganda found in the notorious antisemitic incident of Ilan Halimi.
  3. 3) Ex- Nazi Bonian soldiers came to Palestine (as qtd from B. Morris).
  4. 4) Author David Solway on judenrein / Jew-free in Palestine.
  5. 5) Noted author (Paul Kuttner) about Hamas' mickey-mouse resembling Nazi Racial hatred.
  6. 6) YNet about 'apartheid palestine.'
  7. 7) Hamas racism as charged by the Kurds.
  8. 8) Peter Hitchens of the Daily Mail on racist graffiti in the territories. (added by another user)
  9. 9) Muslim attack on Jews under the Ottomans, by T. Parfitt that it is related to "Muslims xenophia in Palestine."
  10. 10) JCPA on Amin al-Husaini that he "mixed the old traditional and the new racial hatred of Jews."
  11. 11) One can disagree with the article in WSJ about the roots of the conflict in Mufti (and the like) Judephobia, but it doesn't make it 'invalid.
  12. 12) On the racism of terrorists' ideology such as that of Hamas, about "monkey children." as written by noted professor: Martin Edmonds and by Oldřich Cerný who is the Executive Director of the Forum 2000 Foundation, and Director of the Prague Security Studies Institute.

Please see the diff. [2] for important and large lost data. Thank you Marokwitz.Federalostt (talk) 11:57, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Marokwitz, Federalostt is going down pretty soon and I don't think you deserve to follow, but please pay more attention to the issue. Religious persecution is not racism, even if a single person has been found who postulated Christians are a different ethnic group. I'm sure you know that is a tiny minority viewpoint. Zerotalk 13:21, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Zero, please don't use threatening language such as "Federalostt is going down pretty soon and I don't think you deserve to follow". This is totally unacceptable. Stop it. Federalostt, please listen to what I wrote to you earlier, your edits are perceived as biased since you are adding opinions consistent with a certain viewpoint and not properly balancing them. And you are doing large reverts without consensus. Please take is slow and calm down. Marokwitz (talk) 13:34, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Gaza War

You are going to need to start using the talk page more. Your edits hhve been disputed and you are editing something that is already volatile in a manner that will spark even more trouble.Cptnono (talk) 10:36, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

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