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Assignment 4

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Hi Group 5. First of all, this assignment was supposed to have been done in the main sandbox, and I would comment on the sandbox talk page. These assignments have a lot of details to keep track of, and it helps me when material is where I was expecting to find it. J.R. Council (talk) 22:01, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

My answers to your questions will be at the bottom of this page. J.R. Council (talk) 22:02, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Group 7 responses to Assignment 4

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1) The Lazarus article does not include anything about his personal history which should not be hard to find since he only passed away recently. The only citation in the page is from an article in Psychology Today written just after his death. There also is not much detail on one of the topics we learned about Lazarus in health psychology, his stress appraisal theory. Cognitive appraisal has its own wikipedia page so we should link to that when we add to Lazarus's page.

2) Lazarus, A. A. (1996). Some reflections after 40 years of trying to be an effective psychotherapist. Psychotherapy: Theory, Research, Practice, Training, 33(1), 142-145. doi:10.1037/0033-3204.33.1.142

Lazarus, A. A. (1990). Stressing or depressing?. American Psychologist, 45(4), 562. doi:10.1037/0003-066X.45.4.562

3) What would you suggest as a good starting point for beginning to edit our article? There is so much that can be done I can't think of where to begin.

What are the templates listed at the bottom of the current article? Clicking on them doesn't lead to anything.

Mckenzie.galster (talk) 02:29, 25 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Assignment #4

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Hello!

Looking at the Arnold Lazarus Wiki page, there are a lot of issues as we discussed earlier.

1. All of the Citations are in red, as unsuitable and wrong. So this is a major issue because the information could be invalid. to start with. There is no conversation on the Talk page and history is ver minimal. We really need to add some subtitles and quality information on background, career and significance in the psychology field, and any other information we find.

2. I have found some resources that we could possibly use for this

Handbook of Psychotherapy Integration (Second Edition) is a book that Arnold had participation writing in. He wrote Chapter 5 about his Multimodal Therapy. I also found an Obituary from a Newspaper, that is also placed online

Arnold A. Lazarus Obituary. (13, October 9). Topic Towns- Princetion's Weekly Community Newspaper. Retrieved February 27, 2016, from http://www.towntopics.com/wordpress/2013/10/09/obituaries-10-9-13/

Norcross, J. C., & Goldfried, M. R. (2005). Handbook of Psychotherapy Integration. New York: Oxford University Press.

I really hope these work!

3. Due to his more recent death, when researching him it was a lot of his publications. So where would you recommend finding background information? He has a good amount of publications, how many should we include or what is the determining factor of the publications importance?

IsabelleVivian (talk) 20:14, 27 February 2016 (UTC)Reply


1. I agree with Isabelle; the references aren't very reliable for the little information the original author(s) provided. My main issue with what is already provided is the lack of specific information. The page is full of very generalized statements about accomplishments, but no specific details are given

2. The library has a book written by Lazarus that focuses on personal enrichment via imagery. I think it would be a good place to find information regarding his contributions to behavior therapy. The second citation is an article I found regarding Lazarus's use of emotive imagery in treating phobias in children

     Lazarus, A. A. (1977). In the mind's eye : The power of imagery for personal enrichment. New York, NY: Rawson Associates.
     Lazarus, A. A., & Abramovitz, A. (n.d.). The use of “Emotive Imagery” In the Treatment of Children's Phobias. The British Journal of Psychiatry, 108(453), 191-195. Retrieved February 28, 2016, from http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/108/453/191.short
  • The goofy formatting of the references above happens when you leave blank space at the beginning of a line. If you want an indent, put : at the beginning. Like this:
Lazarus, A. A., & Abramovitz, A. (n.d.). The use of “Emotive Imagery” In the Treatment of Children's Phobias. The British Journal of Psychiatry, 108(453), 191-195. Retrieved February 28, 2016, from http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/108/453/191.short

3. Dr. Council, the article is lacking in a lot of specific details. Is there a limit to how detailed we should be when listing accomplishments of Lazarus? Also, what happens if the red citations that Isabelle pointed out are invalid? Do we just rewrite the entire article?

Weston.clark (talk) 17:45, 28 February 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mckenzie.galster (talkcontribs) Reply

1. The most bothersome part about this article is that it does not proceed in a logical sequence of any type. I think the best thing we could do is list accomplishments and details of his career chronologically, although I would also be open to splitting it into subsections on his contributions to specific fields. Either way we should make sure there is a logical pattern to the article rather than random accomplishments and projects spattered throughout.

2. My first cited piece is a piece outlining Lazarus's multimodal approach to psychotherapy and how to incorporate it in ones practice. The second piece I found, is part of a dialogue between Lazarus and another author, Kohlenberg. In this article he discusses pioneering impacts of Lazarus and their views on some future problems of behavioral therapy.

    Lazarus, A. A. (2006). Brief but comprehensive psychotherapy: The multimodal way. New York, NY, US: Springer Publishing Co.
    Kohlenberg, R. J. (2003). AABT, Human Misery, and Transference: A Response to Arnold Lazarus. The Behavior Therapist, 26(7), 381-383.

3. One input I would ask of Dr. Council would be whether you believe it more logical to list Lazarus's achievements in a chronological fashion or rather in terms of his impact in specific fields. Another question I have is, where can we find information on some of Lazarus's early work and possible publications. It seems, from my observations, that the majority of pieces are from the 2000's with little information on his early work, which is a problem if we are hoping to proceed in a chronological order.

Franklin.berg (talk) 21:12, 28 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Dr. Council's comments on Assignment 4

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For Mckenzie: The handout Editing Wikipedia articles on psychology has a section on writing an article about a psychologist. That should help you generate an outline, and then you can work from there. Regarding the "templates," I think that was the result of not doing references correctly. You can clean that up when you work on the article.
J.R. Council (talk) 21:59, 2 March 2016 (UTC) For Isabelle: When a well known person passes away, there will be a lot of obituaries, which generally have some good biographical information. Another place to find background info is if someone received a special award and was written up. J.R. Council (talk) 21:59, 2 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
For Weston: You should not discuss each research project, book, etc., in detail. However, be sure to summarize his main contributions. Also see my comment to McKenzie above. Regarding the red citations, look them up. If you can find the sources, then rewrite them as proper reference citations.J.R. Council (talk) 21:59, 2 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
For Franklin: If he has contributed in different areas, I would discuss contributions chronologically within each area. To find early work, I'd go to Google Scholar and search for Arnold Lazarus. Also, most people cite themselves, so look in the reference lists of articles you find. J.R. Council (talk) 21:59, 2 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Dr. Council's comments on Assignment 5

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First, some general comments and responses to your questions. I actually did want you all to be working on the three sections together, rather than each doing the three sections separately. As long as you sign, I can tell what you've done. McKenzie is correct that you'll need to consolidate them. You asked "how do we make one of those things on the right side of some articles with a picture and some facts?" This is an infobox. For instructions, help:infobox into the Wikipedia search box.
Comments on specific sections:

  1. To-do list: Looks good. Just consolidate into a master list.
  2. Outline: Same thing - consolidate. I think you're covering the basics here, but you can still differentiate your outline. Adding details will make writing your lead section easier. See the handout on Editing Wikipedia articles on Psychology for how to organize an article about a person.
  3. References: Right now the reference section is not formatted for Wikipedia. As you add text later, be sure to use the drop-down menu to attach reference citations in appropriate places and format references properly.
  4. Task divisons: Franklin and McKenzie, please add your pieces in here. J.R. Council (talk) 15:47, 23 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Dr. Council's comments on Assignment 6

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First of all, I don't see anything from Isabelle. I have emailed her to let her know she needs to contribute. J.R. Council (talk) 16:48, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
That said, you all have done a very good job both with the leads and critiques. This will come together pretty easily into a nice lead section. I really don't have much to add other than be sure to emphasize MMT/BASIC ID, which he is best known for. I have a book by Lazarus on MMT if you'd like to look at it. J.R. Council (talk) 19:17, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Dr. Council's comments on Assignment 7

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Nice job, Group 5! You are go to go for developing the rest of the article. Just a couple of comments

  1. Be sure to add reference citations and internal links to the lead.
  2. I don't see any indication that Franklin contributed. I can't give him a grade until I know what he did. J.R. Council (talk) 01:46, 13 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

A Great Reference

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They guys, I came across another great reference that was actually written by Arnold's Son, Clifford! Take a peek at it, i already put it in the references in the sandbox! (:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/think-well/201310/the-man-who-ushered-in-the-era-effective-psychotherapy IsabelleVivian (talk) 03:46, 15 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Dr. Council's comments on Assignment 8

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Great work, Group 5! I think you've got this article to the point where you don't need to add (much) more content, but just polish up what you've got. In general, you need to proofread carefully for typos, grammar, and spelling. Here are my specific suggestions for improving each section:

  • Lead: This is very good. All you need to do is add reference citations.
  • Background: Again, add references. Don't refer to him as Arnold. Use his last name.
This sentence is poorly worded and needs a citation in proper Wikipedia format: "Lazarus has numerous achievements to his name, the most substantial being The Lazarus Institute (Princeton Weekly, 2013)." Be careful using superlatives. In fact, I'd just delete this sentence.
  • Clinical Work and Theories: Put in a citation for the behavior therapy book he wrote with Wolpe. You say: "The Lazarus Institute (TLI) was Lazarus' practice for the rest of his life." However, you don't say when he started it.
This sentence is poorly written: "TLI boasts their use of broad practices while remaining rooted in approaches that have been scientifically supported." Use another word besides 'boasts.'

After you make these corrections, I can notify Ian at Wiki Ed and have him vet the article for publication to the main article space. J.R. Council (talk) 17:21, 21 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Feedback

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Nice work on your article draft. It would probably be improved by adding an infobox to the article - either {{Infobox person}} or {{Infobox scientist}}. Click on the links for more details about how to use them.

One other thing - the reference on the table of works isn't a real ref - it's a Google search of some sort. You need a proper ref, not a search string. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:07, 29 April 2016 (UTC)Reply