Mihitza78

August 2016

Hello, I'm Wesley Mouse. Your recent edit to the page List of Eurovision Song Contest winners appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Wes Mouse ✒ 10:17, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016

Hello, I'm Wesley Mouse. An edit that you recently made to Croatia in the Eurovision Song Contest seemed to be a test and has been removed. If you want more practice editing, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Wes Mouse  ^T@lk 20:03, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

• Please stop edit warring. Your edit was reverted for a reason, which if you actually took the time to read the edit history on the article, you would have seen the summary inform that the article should show the full name of all artists, as is shown on their respective articles. Your actions are now showing signs of disruptive editing, which can be sanctioned with a block if continued. Wes Mouse  ^T@lk 00:25, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Now you are being pathetic and illustrating disruptive point-making and clearly commenting in a stupid manner. Måns Petter Albert Sahlén Zelmerlöw is his full birth name, yes. But I never said we use an artists full birth name. What I said and is very clear how it was meant is that we use the full name as shown on the article title. So Måns Petter Albert Sahlén Zelmerlöw (birth name), name would appear as Måns Zelmerlöw (article title name), because that is the name of the article. Andrea Šušnjara is the article title for Andrea. Danijela Martinović is the article title for Danijela. So we use the article title, because the changes you made to the article violates pieplinking rules. I don't need to be going any further in detail on this matter, as you are clearly not grasping the issue and I am getting very frustrated at trying to explain a simple issue to someone who isn't understanding how Wikipedia operates. Wes Mouse  ^T@lk 20:26, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

September 2016

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Croatia in the Eurovision Song Contest. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Please stop edit warring. Your edit was reverted for a reason, which if you actually took the time to read the edit history on the article, you would have seen the summary inform that the article should show the full name of all artists, as is shown on their respective articles. Wes Mouse  ^T@lk 00:26, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Barbara Kolar

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non-free images on Croatia in the Eurovision Song Contest and List of Eurovision Song Contest winners

Greetings. I appreciate all the effort you went through to put up so many pictures on this subject. However, the images are not acceptable. Per WP:NFCC #8, non-free images must "significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic". The inclusion of the winner and hosts pictures on Croatia in the Eurovision Song Contest does nothing towards that which text does not do. I've also removed the gallery previously seen at Photogallery. This is per our WP:NFG guideline which does not generally allow such usage. I've also removed an image you uploaded from List of Eurovision Song Contest winners, as it violated WP:NFLISTS and also WP:NFCC #10c, which requires a "separate, specific non-free use rationale for each use" of a non-free file, which was lacking in this case. As a result of these actions, I've tagged 24 images you uploaded as orphaned fair use images, making them subject to deletion by January 7. See File:Esccro2016.png for an example. If you have questions about the non-free policy and guidelines, please feel free to ask. I'm sorry this was necessary. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:09, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

• Hello. I completely understand and I'm sorry for doing something that was wrong. I just wanted to improve the article and make it more interesting to read. I'm new to Wikipedia and still don't know all the rules, but if it is possible in any way, how can I add those pictures back legally? Profiles of other counties have pictures of their performances and it made me think why wouldn't Croatia too? I'm sorry again, and thank you for help. --Mihitza78 (talk) 16:08, 1 January 2017 (CET)
  • Let's keep discussion here, that way it's all in one place :) Welcome to Wikipedia! It's ok to do something wrong. Really, it is! Wikipedia has an enormous, arcane set of guidelines and policies that can be difficult to learn. You've just bumped into one of the concerns, and I'm sure you'll learn from it. No worries! There isn't any way to add the pictures back in a way that makes them compliant with Wikipedia policies. Wikipedia's mission is to develop content under a free license. When it is truly free, not just used under fair use, then everyone can take advantage of it. We do allow fair use on the project, but the polices about non-free images are quite strict, in fact considerably more so than required by law. While there might be other articles that use images in this way, they are either (a) free license images not used under our non-free policy, or (b) they are used improperly, as was done in this case. Wikipedia is imperfect. While using other articles to help guide development of an article can be useful, it can cause problems too. When I do this, I try to use only Wikipedia:Featured articles, as these are the best that Wikipedia has to offer. Hope this helps! --Hammersoft (talk) 16:50, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Creating articles too soon

Mihitza, you created Finland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2018 too eagerly. Please pay attention to WP:TOOSOON. WikiProject Eurovision tend to wait until after the current contest before we even think of creating country articles for the next one. They fall to the deletionist and rapidly get deleted. I've redirected this one for now. Wes Mouse ^Talk 20:26, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Copying user space style

Mihitza, please refrain from copying my page design onto your user space. I am most annoyed that you have copied my user page design, which is technically theft. Please make your own design, and not the one I spent hours making for MY user page. The following are copies of my user page design that you have stolen and I urgently request that you redesign the style so that they are not the same as my own user space designs.

1. User:Mihitza78/toppanel
2. User:Mihitza78/leftpanel
3. User:Mihitza78/rightpanel
4. User:Mihitza78/Header
5. User:Mihitza78/navbar

Just to further clarify what I have written on my edit pages, which you have clearly ignored. If you're going to attempt to steal some or all of my user design for your own user page, then please ask me first via my talk page. I put many, many hours of thought into my layout, and get really upset when people think they can just take without asking first - it is polite as well as compulsory Failure to comply with this request will result in matters being escalated for admin intervention, and possible blocking sanctions and temporary loss of editing privileges. Wes Mouse ^Talk 15:49, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I understand. I wanted to make my own, but as I'm new at this and I'm learning slowly, I made a 'little remake' of yours and wanted to change it slowly as I'm learning how to and getting new ideas. If you insist, I will remove it. But hey, take it as a good thing! You inspire me! :) Thank you so much for being understandable. Mihitza78 (talk) 15:46, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

I haven't seen that! I didn't have time to go through all of it yet. I am really sorry. Mihitza78 (talk) 15:49, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Please post your replies to this thread on your talk page. Wes Mouse ^Talk 15:51, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

• If I inspired you, then you could have at least sought my permission to use some or all of my design. But you didn't, you just stole it, which I find to be more disturbing. And you can't exactly miss the edit notice (User:Wesley Mouse/Editnotice). It is the big yellow notice that stands out like a bright light. Wes Mouse ^Talk 15:56, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Wesley Mouse, you might want to acquaint yourself with Wikipedia's third pillar. – Uanfala (talk) 16:21, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

@Uanfala: I am fully acquainted with the third pillar, thank you very much. But it is the principal that is at stake here. I would never dream of copy/paste a design from another user without seeking their permission first. It is only polite, not to mention compulsory in regards to user pages. Wes Mouse ^Talk 16:25, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

I understand that simply copying someone else's design can be seen as bad style, but it's not more than that. The link you provide doesn't say anything on this matter, other than that there's no penalty for "stealing" an idea from someone else. – Uanfala (talk) 16:29, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

@Uanfala: Perhaps you would like to read the rest of that sentence? Even though there is no penalty for "stealing" an idea from someone else it does go on further to state that a user is required to change it around and make it yours or give them credit for the idea. I see no credit given. Wes Mouse ^Talk 16:32, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict)It sure gives this as advice, but seeing it as something that is "required" or "compulsory" seems to be your own interpretation. Again, it's understandable why nicking somebody else's style can be irritating, but that's not something to make fuss about, and definitely not something that can lead to any form of sanctions. – Uanfala (talk) 16:39, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

@Wesley Mouse: Well, I still don't know where exactly to find it on your page! It's just listed in the bottom panel, which, as you could see, I didn't copy from you. I didn't read everything on your page before, but when I edited it. So yeah, I missed that. I won't copy any of your work. I will make mine, a lot more simple. Mihitza78 (talk) 16:31, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

• Maybe I would copy a part of your work, and of course give you credit. But my page wasn't finished yet, I was still working on it. And I would feel a lot more respected if you were a little more polite. The way you write makes me feel attacked, and when I see I have a message from you I get scared. "What did I do wrong this time?" is what I say to myself. I had to say that, because I feel that way every time I communicate with you. I feel unwelcome. Thanks... Mihitza78 (talk) 16:42, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Sincere apologies, I did not mean to scare you nor did I mean to come across as being impolite. I was just shocked to discover a design that I spent months evolving, was basically copied and pasted elsewhere. Yes, it is flattering. But it would have been just as respectful and polite if you had asked me first, rather than just going to my user page, going to the edit screen, and copying the content therein. I'm glad that my designing skills had inspired you. But learn a lesson from this, if you are going to copy designs from other users, then ask their permission first. Other people may react far worse than I did on this occasion. Wes Mouse ^Talk 18:09, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:User denarian

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