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Wervo (talk) 14:09, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
- Done I saw your post and wanted to say, in regard to WP standards & SENSOR-Pesticides, that the External links section could use quite a bit of trimming. If there are extra sources that need to be incorporated into the article, you can move them to the talk page, but check out WP:EL for guidance. Welcome! =) Wervo (talk) 14:13, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
COI
editIn case you are not aware, please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest regarding editing here in regard to pages such as SENSOR-Pesticides. Wervo (talk) 01:14, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
- I know you'd see it, but I just wanted to emphasize this post by linking it here. Also, if I make a point on your talk page, you can reply here as I will put your talk page on my WP:WATCHLIST. Likewise, I will reply on my talk page if you raise a point there. (This is standard WP practice.) Thanks. Wervo (talk) 15:04, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- Welcome welcome welcome! (In case I haven't been welcoming enough.) I am glad you are here to help out. But! =) Overall, I'm concerned... from WP: "Promotional article production on behalf of clients. Editors should not create articles which serve solely to promote their subject. All Wikipedia articles should contain useful information written as if from a neutral point of view. The writing of "puff pieces" and advertisements on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited. If you contribute to Wikipedia on behalf of clients, you owe it to both them and the encyclopedia to make very sure you understand the standards for content here, and do not insert promotional material." In this sense the "client" would be your boss. I hope your boss understands what WPs is (and how it is to be used by reading the basics of the core policies & the COI =) ). Tell him/her I asked that they please read them so that doesn't create any awkwardness for you, if you'd like! So, I don't want to create a chilling effect, just a moderating effect so your edits conform to policy. I hope you enjoy things, and stick around. Thanks. Wervo (talk) 00:59, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think what we have here is a disagreement over my writing style rather than NPOV. I agree that brevity should prevail whenever possible - articles should be concise, and my writing has a tendency to be overly detailed. However, I don't think too much detail necessarily indicates bias or promotion. IMHO, there is nothing in the article that promotes the program overall - no language like "SENSOR provides much-needed surveillance" or "draws attention to negligent use of pesticides" or anything like that. I've already explained to my supervisor numerous times that I can't promote the program through the article, and I've shot down several sections he wanted.
If you feel like a particular section isn't neutral, or provides too much detail, I'd appreciate it if you would identify the language that bothers you so that I can modify it, rather than just removing the section completely. If I'm given the chance to explain how something relates, we can come to a consensus on how something should be written and change it then, rather than back-and-forth editing. I check this page every day, and the program has very low public visibility, so I don't feel that it's a big deal if it takes a little bit of time to find the right balance.
It may also be prudent at this point to request moderation or outside opinions. I know that you're trying to make sure the article conforms to standards, while I'm trying to make sure it accurately reflects and explains the technical aspects of SENSOR's operation. We're both trying to make the best article possible, so don't worry about offending me away. Mmagdalene722 (talk) 14:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think your intent to "explain the technical aspects of SENSOR's operation" (while understandable and well-intentioned) likely goes against the aims of the encylopedia if WP:RS don't cover these aspects (thus my WP:NOTHOWTO deletions). I am not disputing the neutrality of the page as is, but I think I have had to revert non-NPOV statements (such as this one) before. I understand your frustration when I removed a section you added, and maybe it was too bold. I'll try to think about it three times but still—I made sure I left my comments for that edit, and at the time I felt it necessary! Wervo (talk) 22:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- A thought: I added the SENSOR-Pesticides page to the Medicine project and requested input from users there who have more technical expertise with clinical surveillance and may be able to provide an informed perspective on the article. Mmagdalene722 (talk) 15:37, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think what we have here is a disagreement over my writing style rather than NPOV. I agree that brevity should prevail whenever possible - articles should be concise, and my writing has a tendency to be overly detailed. However, I don't think too much detail necessarily indicates bias or promotion. IMHO, there is nothing in the article that promotes the program overall - no language like "SENSOR provides much-needed surveillance" or "draws attention to negligent use of pesticides" or anything like that. I've already explained to my supervisor numerous times that I can't promote the program through the article, and I've shot down several sections he wanted.
- Welcome welcome welcome! (In case I haven't been welcoming enough.) I am glad you are here to help out. But! =) Overall, I'm concerned... from WP: "Promotional article production on behalf of clients. Editors should not create articles which serve solely to promote their subject. All Wikipedia articles should contain useful information written as if from a neutral point of view. The writing of "puff pieces" and advertisements on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited. If you contribute to Wikipedia on behalf of clients, you owe it to both them and the encyclopedia to make very sure you understand the standards for content here, and do not insert promotional material." In this sense the "client" would be your boss. I hope your boss understands what WPs is (and how it is to be used by reading the basics of the core policies & the COI =) ). Tell him/her I asked that they please read them so that doesn't create any awkwardness for you, if you'd like! So, I don't want to create a chilling effect, just a moderating effect so your edits conform to policy. I hope you enjoy things, and stick around. Thanks. Wervo (talk) 00:59, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Peer review
editJust in case you didn't see my reply on my talk page, I'll have a look at your article tomorrow, hopefully. Thanks. Colin°Talk 23:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- Awesome! Thanks for the heads-up. Mmagdalene722 (talk) 13:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- I'll have a look at the article too. I don't have any home internet access at the moment so it may take a few days for me to get back with comments. JMiall₰ 13:02, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Excellent. Thank you very much! MMagdalene722talk to me 13:05, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your message, Mmagdalene722, and your comments at my peer review, which is now closed. I had also thought that "Initiation," "Maintenance," and "Discontinuation" could be grouped under one heading but have struggled to think of a good one. It will pop into my head one day! Yes, the Johns Hopkins team is influential and their protocol was introduced to other US hospitals at a time when the diet was regaining popularity. Most of the academic papers published on the KD come from this team. I had intended to give your article another look but I was unwell over the weekend and haven't found much time for WP this week. I'll let you know if I have any other comments. BTW: I don't think you can choose who reviews a GA, but I don't have a lot of experience in the matter. Colin°Talk 14:03, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't get a chance to add a timely response to the SENSOR-Pesticides peer review, but I have done so now in the hopes it would help. Let me know if I can further clarify. - Taxman Talk 15:47, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
R1a article
editThank you for your comments. I do not think PB666 is using socks. You may have seen a recent remark I left on the talk page referring to another "voice", but I do not think it is PB666. As mentioned, I think PB666 has jumped to agree with that person way too opportunistically while looking for any support. I do think PB666 has been violating talk page norms in many ways, but that is a longer story.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 15:17, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Andrew that statement is inappropriate in an attempt to bias the ex-reviewer. Andrew has a problem with wiki-guides.PB666 yap 18:59, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Okay guys, seriously, argue on your own talk pages. I've already failed the GAN. End of story. MMagdalene722talk to me 19:01, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
GAN
editFine with me, I'll take a quick look now, but I won't do the review till tomorrow. I don't think there is any particular problem with reciprocal reviews as long as the reviews themselves are demonstrably objective. Problems have only arisen where members of the same project have pushed through each others efforts without due diligence Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:23, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
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editThanks for the reviews, i'm going to take these to GT now, I thought it would be another week or so before the martins passed the GA hurdle (: Jimfbleak - talk to me? 17:16, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
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