User talk:Mojo Hand/Archive 2022

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2022

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Deletion of Talk:Russian Orthodox Church in America

I had added a message at Talk:Russian Orthodox Church in America - with a <code>{{G8-exempt}}</code> model - concerning how the article was used by the organisation that this article was about, but you removed it. I believe the talk page should be restored. Veverve (talk) 14:43, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Apparently my eye was only drawn to the big shiny red delete box.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:51, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

95.237.98.36

95.237.98.36 is the Brescia LTA, promoting fascism from a series of IPs generally geolocating to the area of Brescia from a large range of Telecom Italia IPs. See User:Beyond My Ken/Brescia LTA. Acroterion (talk) 16:04, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip Acroterion. Interesting to see that the different IPs target different pages, but the POV is the same.--Mojo Hand (talk) 17:27, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
They're remarkably consistent, and seem to have a gift for finding diverse articles to troll. Acroterion (talk) 17:30, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2022

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A barnstar for you!

  The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
I wouldn't be surprised if you already got this barnstar... nor would I be surprised if you got it 5 times before! You're so fast in recent changes reverting vandalism that you've ninjaed me thrice! Great job! InterstateFive (talk) - just another roadgeek 15:11, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Thank you InterstateFive - it's always nice to get some recognition for doing the maintenance stuff. I have to credit WP:Huggle for the speed. I hope to see you around. Mojo Hand (talk) 15:28, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Whire

What’s up 2600:1006:B128:1165:11A4:6B1E:7E8C:1C6A (talk) 13:49, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Not much. What's up with you? --Mojo Hand (talk) 13:52, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2022

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Michael Lynk post

Please see link from camera, it is relevant to his bio. https://www.camera.org/article/according-to-the-uns-michael-lynk-facts-change-covetous-jews-do-not/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.9.220.42 (talk) 14:46, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

OK. In return, please see Wikipedia's policy on articles about living people. Mojo Hand (talk) 15:16, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Camera is a well respect source. Will you restore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.9.220.42 (talk) 16:41, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Not even close. You would need multiple independent sources to call a person an active supporter of terrorism in Wikipedia's voice, particularly in the lead section. However, you could legitimately add a sentence to the end of the political activism section saying that the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America accuses Lynk of covering up terrorism.--Mojo Hand (talk) 19:36, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

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22:53, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi!

I noticed your very useful and rational presence in the article history. If reversions are made henceforth I'm prepared to take it to whichever noticeboard might prove most effective. Same goes for the Diocles article itself, and its user-box image (now deceased, but really quite inventive.) Rather gobsmacking, really... Haploidavey (talk) 14:12, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

That bit about Diocles has bothered me for some time, but I hadn't fully analyzed what was wrong with it. Your edit summary nailed it. I will certainly oppose its reinstatement without some actual connection to the Forbes list. Mojo Hand (talk) 14:20, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Thank you! Such a shame when a reputable scholar strays so far (?). I was busy trimming the Diocles article, which had sprouted all sorts of minor shoots, major branches and outright extravagant fibs/inventions. I only made the Forbes connection accidentally, when I followed the Diocles See Also section to its nest. Such fun! Haploidavey (talk) 14:32, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2022

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A barnstar for you!

  The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Thank you for your hard work in Wikipedia we appreciate your work

Thank you very much if you don't now me im Paulaa Paul😁😁😁 Paulaa Paula (talk) 13:38, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

 

I was just around and i found u and i saw u have a lot of wikilovers so i Just added mine

Paulaa Paula (talk) 07:34, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2022

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2022

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A barnstar for you!

  The Padlock Barnstar
Thanks for protecting Tyrone (rapper). That page was getting vandalized like hell, so I'm glad it's protected. (If this doesn't need a barnstar, feel free to remove it.) RteeeeKed💬📖 21:53, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
Thank you very much RteeeeKed! Appreciation is not necessary, but it makes Wikipedia a better place.
I couldn't believe how much vandalism was happening on that page - it took three reverts after the protection to catch it all. Craziness.--Mojo Hand (talk) 22:01, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Hey there – excellent barnstarism. :-) Because I had to suppress a whoooooole bunch of possibly defamatory nonsense on that page, and because this has been going on for a couple of weeks already, I changed your protection settings and extended it to one month. I'm not optimistic that will be long enough, actually. but we'll start there. And it wouldn't surprise me if some of those IPs and newer accounts try to game autoconfirmed to get around it. Just wanted to let you know. Katietalk 01:22, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
    Thanks KrakatoaKatie. I debated increasing it myself after I saw how much vandalism had been going on. I put it on my watchlist going forward, so we will get it under control eventually. Cheers. Mojo Hand (talk) 14:25, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Always precious

 

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Hi from Redminton VA! Sides-Daren? (talk) 16:41, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).

 

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Cirque Lake AfD

Hi, I was wondering if you could reconsider your Keep close at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cirque Lake (Teton County, Wyoming). None of the Keep !votes correctly applied the relevant guidelines (GNG and NGEO) or refuted the reason that it was nominated, and thus should have been given less weight or disregarded:

  • "Listed on GNIS and USGS Topo maps as a placename important enough to have mention" - Maps and database entries aren't significant coverage and don't contribut to GNG. In fact, WP:NGEO #Sources specifically excludes maps from consideration in establishing notability.
  • "Passes WP:GEOLAND" - For named natural features, WP:GEOLAND requires that "information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist." The sources in the article don't meet that requirement (the only non-database source is a guide to climbing routes which mentions the location of the lake in passing), and no additional sources were presented at AfD.
  • "It passed WP:NEXIST from the get-go" - Again, no SIGCOV sources have been shown to exist.

There is also an argument that places with nationally protected status are presumed notable. This would apply to Grand Teton National Park, but I don't believe it's intended to extend to individual features within that protected area. I would appreciate hearing your perspective on how consensus was assessed in this situation and whether my reasoning above is sound. –dlthewave 03:06, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Cirque Lake AfD Closure

Hi there, per the DRV instructions, I am contacting you before opening a DRV on the above case to see if we can discuss the closure. I believe that in this case you may have misinterpreted consensus as ‘’’keep’’’, perhaps based on the fact that it was one of a series, others of which have been kept, which would understandably feel like a precedent. In this case I and the nom. had argued (after searching) that there were insufficient sources for notability. Three others had raised keep !votes but the policy arguments did not deal with the lack of sourcing. A fourth keep !vote was struck by an editor who carried out searches and reluctantly came to the conclusion that sources did not exist. If that is interpreted as a (reluctant) delete vote, then that really looks more like “no consensus” than keep. I believe that at the very least this should have been relisted for another week in the hope of determining a fuller consensus.

When participating in deletion discussions, many editors spend a lot of time hunting for reliable sources before making their decision. If we just tally up the people arguing one side without evaluating the arguments, it begs the question as to why that time is being spent. Are you able to relist the case for another week? (or at least change the closure to “no consensus”)? Or, indeed, am I misinterpreting the process?

Many thanks Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

And just replying to my own comment to apologise - I did not read your talk page before hitting "add new section" so did not see the above from User:dlthewave. When I hit 'publish' I thought I had messed up and submitted twice for a moment! :) I hope the double query does not make you feel set upon. Thanks again for undertaking the thankless job of closing deletion discussion. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
Hello dlthewave and Sirfurboy. I always appreciate feedback, and I very much recognize that editors have invested significant time in looking for sources for these articles. Based on your input, I have expanded my reasoning on the closure of this specific discussion. I anticipate that there will be continuing conversation and hopefully eventual consensus on how to treat these types of articles, but my judgment was that further discussion on this particular AFD was unlikely to move the needle. --Mojo Hand (talk) 14:41, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply and for updating your closing comments which I think are a fairer reflection of the situation. I expect you are right about the needle not moving on this one and I won't rehash arguments here. On the basis of your updated close comments, I am not now inclined to open a DRV myself. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Mojo Hand, your close was correct the first time. Just look at the following review, and notice the same 2 editors are pushing to relist: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2022 September 1#Forget-me-not Lakes (Wyoming). Being unable to find or access sources does not mean sources do not exist. NEXIST, CONTN, & GEOLAND were all valid reasons to keep those stubs, and are valid reasons to not modify the close. We are currently dealing with receding glaciers and threats to entire aquatic ecosystems as a result of climate change. There are numerous studies and published articles in books and journals that have not even been considered. I am just now finding out about these AfD challenges because I've been too busy teaching new reviewers at NPPSCHOOL, acting in my coordinator capacity to expand teaching, while also finding sources and expanding some of the stubs that were nommed, closed as keep and have since been challenged. AfD is not the place to inspire editors to find sources, citations or expand content; rather, it inspires frustration, disappointment and creates an incredible time sink. As you stated above, there will be continuing conversations – and it is taking place right now because ArbCom has AfD in its sights as a result of mass creations, and mass deletion noms like this one, and various unacceptable behavior in the creation/deletion process. I would imagine the 10 lake article prods (all reverted) and resulting 7 noms will be brought up in that RfC by the author of those articles once the workshop phase at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Requests for comment/Article creation at scale is complete. There are better ways to build an encyclopedia without mass prodding and/or noming stubs that are 10+/- years old, and were created by an author with 17+/- years experience on WP and multiple FAs under their belt. Happy editing. Atsme 💬 📧 17:15, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Hi Atsme. My expanded close was just to more fully explain my though process for the closing. If I had looked at just this one AFD, I probably would have relisted. However, I am a believer in some consistency of outcome and broader consensus.
It is unfortunate that so many editors find AFD to be frustrating and disappointing. It does seem to be an inevitable part of the maturing encyclopedia that we spend energy in these types of conversations, but hopefully these discussions helps build the broader consensus on the critical inclusion issues. Happy editing to you too, and thank you for all the good work you do for Wikipedia. Mojo Hand (talk) 22:53, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2022

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2022

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Stratford District Secondary School

Hi there. I see you deleted Stratford District Secondary School. I clarified some details, and would appreciate your input at User talk:Drmies#School question. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:17, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of Talk:Jamie Keeton

Hi there! Just wondering whether you deleted this talk page in error? The reason given was G8: Page dependent on a deleted or nonexistent page, but Jamie Keeton is still a live page (as far as I can see). Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 01:58, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes, could you please restore this page. The article exists. Bruxton (talk) 02:18, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
  Done. Sorry about that. I was checking the page histories and must have deleted the target page rather than the redirect.--Mojo Hand (talk) 13:33, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2022

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Curious about image addition method

Hi there! I noticed that you added an image to an article, and somehow, when you did so, the name of the file was included as a sort of second caption that does not display. This causes a minor syntax error that appears in a "bogus file options" report, but I'm not here to blame you at all. I have seen many of these errors crop up (where the file name is repeated as a duplicate caption), and I suspect that some image addition tool is causing the error. If that is the case, I'd like to get the tool fixed so that this error stops happening.

Can you please let me know how you added that image to the article? Is there a button or other link that you clicked on that helped you insert the image? Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:41, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi Jonesey95. I copied the "use this file on a wiki" data from Commons. Apparently Commons pre-loads the image title as the default caption for "use this file". I think my brain saw the pre-loaded caption as part of the image title while I put in my own caption. When I previewed the edit, only my caption was visible, so I didn't realize the ghost caption was still there. Seems like it might be better to use the image description as the pre-loaded caption, rather than the image name, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were already a long discussion somewhere about this issue. So, I learned a little something, but I don't know if this is helpful to you.--Mojo Hand (talk) 23:23, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2022

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Daniel Day-Lewis

Hey, thank you for blocking 74.143.47.242 for their edits at Daniel Day-Lewis, would you also be able to do the same for Oessee as they are making the same edits. Suonii180 (talk) 14:19, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

  Done. Strange that they are targeting Daniel Day-Lewis.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:28, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

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Tamworth

Hi,

I apologize if this is not the preferred way to convey this message but I saw no alternative:

I saw that you were a main contributor to the Tamworth, VA article. Based on your knowledge of this niche piece of VA history, I was curious if you could point me in the direction of the current owners. I live across the river from there and have realized that my third-great-grandfather was Fleming Moon, who I suspect to be the Mr. Moon who at one time farmed the property. The article mentioned that the showings of the buildings could be arranged by appointment. I figured it could be an interesting place to check out, if I could.

Thanks,

A. Rock 173.66.17.171 (talk) 02:09, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello to you. Unfortunately I only did maintenance work on this page, so I have no personal connection to Tamworth. However, I did see another editor, Thomas da Silva, making some edits that suggest local knowledge. You may want to try them. Mojo Hand (talk) 17:17, 27 December 2022 (UTC)