User talk:Moneytrees/CCI guide

Earwig and non-English

Regarding #1 at #Basic steps of CCI, maybe Earwig can't translate non-English sources, but you can

• translate it yourself (try DeepL)
• save the result in a sandbox or subpage
• point Earwig at that page
• G7 the page after you're done.

Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 08:29, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

@Mathglot Yeah, that's some of what User:Moneytrees/dummy is for. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk/CCI guide} 17:34, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh, dear, so it is! I should've finished reading the page, before posting. Maybe point #1 could be reworded a bit, along with a link down to that section. Mathglot (talk) 18:48, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

@Mathglot I actually meant to mention it earlier in the guide and almost added it a few months ago, but I didn't for whatever reason- I've updated it now. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk/CCI guide} 20:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Why no mention of {{x}}?

Is there a particular reason isn't mentioned in the instructions for presumptive deletion? It's something I was confused about for a while. I know it's mentioned in User:The4lines/Presumptive removals but I figure it can't hurt to mention it in a place that's directly linked from the main CCI page. — SamX [talk · contribs] 02:23, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

@SamX I thought it was there already, I added a bit about it. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 16:11, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I was marking my presumptive removals with {{y}} for a while, and that definitely helps clarify things. — SamX [talk · contribs] 16:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

CC BY-SA 1.0

The "License guide" section contradicts WP:COMPLIC about the compatibility of BY-SA 1.0 text in Wikipedia. Inspecting the CC legal codes, it does seem that COMPLIC is right and it is incompatible to relicense derivative works from BY-SA 1.0 content as BY-SA 2.0 or higher.

See the CC BY-SA 1.0 Legal Code at 4b (emphasis mine):

“ You may distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform a Derivative Work only under the terms of this License, and You must include a copy of, or the Uniform Resource Identifier for, this License with every copy or phonorecord of each Derivative Work You distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform. ”

Compare to the CC BY-SA 2.0 Legal Code at 4b (emphasis mine):

“ You may distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform a Derivative Work only under the terms of this License, a later version of this License with the same License Elements [i.e. Attribution and ShareAlike] as this License, or a Creative Commons iCommons license that contains the same License Elements as this License (e.g. Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Japan). ”

The wording of this last sentence is essentially similar as what the CC BY-SA 2.5/3.0 Legal Code use. (Perhaps interestingly, {{Creative Commons text attribution notice|bysa1}} gives an error.) I would fix the guide, but I wouldn't consider myself "experienced with this area on Wikipedia". ObserveOwl (chit-chat • my doings) 02:43, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Okay, fixed now. ObserveOwl (chit-chat • my doings) 09:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)