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Benzly Hype

Hello, We represent "Benzly Hype" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzly_Hype , http://meandmikru.tv/ and we are trying to up his online presence by having a wiki page with his material and information, while i do understand the terms, we are the original contributors to the MTV site in which the material was cited source url: www.mtv.com/artists/benzly-hype-cynthia/biography/ how can i move forward with a remedy for this? DeeFamouSs (talk) 16:39, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

@DeeFamouSs: In that form, the article cannot be accepted. The problem is the website you are copying from has not released the text under a compatible license. If you wrote the original text, you'll need to explicitly change the license on the website. You could alternatively email the text to Wikipedia from your MTV email address, or simply reword the text altogether. See WP:DONATETEXT for specific instructions on how to donate text for use on Wikipedia.

Since you are affiliated with the subject you are trying to write about, you should also be mindful of our conflict of interest behavioural guideline. Be sure to not make the article sound promotional in nature, and trying to keep a neutral tone. Wikipedia is not to be used to promote a subject or "up his online presence". See WP:PROMO for more. Hope this helps, thanks! — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:50, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hello from Gabeg1234567

Thank you for noticing my mistakes i will not make them again :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabeg1234567 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

deletion of Antonio E. Puente Page

Hi i am the owner of all the other pages I copied from, please stop deleting my pages...is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening>? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uncwneuro (talk • contribs) 16:23, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

@Uncwneuro: Hey there! Sorry for any confusion. As pointed out on your talk page, the article was deleted as it was copied word for word from an external source that appeared to be copyrighted. If you own the original text at uncw.edu/psy/about/faculty-puente.html, you must indicate on that website that the text is available under a lisence compatible with Wikipedia. The exact steps to take on donating text for use on Wikipedia can be found at WP:DONATETEXT. It may be easier for you to simply reword the content.

Please note that there is also a notability guideline on whether articles can be accepted. I recommend you review WP:NACADEMICS to see if the subject meets our general criteria. If you believe he does, feel free to create the reworded article again. You may consider instead submitting the article for review, that way more experienced editors can help you refine the article and ensure it won't get deleted again. Use the article wizard to expedite this process. Let me know if you need help! — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:49, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello from FriendlyCaribou

Thank you so much for approving my rollback request! I see this as the first step towards a long 'affair' with Wikipedia, and I hope to one day take the mop! I have nothing but admiration for you guys and hope I can use my new permissions effectively and productively! FriendlyCaribou (talk) 08:11, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

@FriendlyCaribou: We could always use another hand in fighting vandalism, and I can see you are sincere in wanting to take part in that. Just again be careful with semi-automated tools. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. Happy editing! — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:24, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

User:Malton and Norton

Hello. I noticed that you added a COI message to the user's talkpage while I was writing a short message to them. I don't see any COI in the user's editing, what I see is just someone living in a small town in northern England who is proud of his/her hometown and want to contribute. The only problem with their editing is that they don't seem to understand that WP is an encyclopaedia, and not a blog or a local newsletter. Which is why I wrote my message to them. Cheers. Thomas.W ^talk 18:43, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying this to me. I certainly was not assuming bad faith in issuing the COI notice. I did get hints that they might be affiliated with the city in some regard, but them being a big fan could just as easily explain it. — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:48, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello from BigstingerGames

Sorry for deleting that page i dint know i was just testing for my page thank you and sorry BigstingerGames (talk) 21:29, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

@BigstingerGames: I'm afraid you have Wikipedia all wrong. It is not a web hosting service or social network to put up your personal information and interests. Please see the introduction to Wikipedia to learn more about our goals. Thanks! — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:37, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

User:Urda data

OK, you just deleted this user's account at their request. Whatever they want. But, this user created many userboxes. They had an extensive listing on the user box sample page. I only happen to use one of them, one I happen to like. How do we retrieve/copy this data into a place that the users destruction of their own account does not affect the aesthetic of many other users home pages? Trackinfo (talk) 00:39, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

@Trackinfo: Yes, this user had a number of evidently very popular userboxes, but with their permission I redirected most of them to the template space. Looking through the deleted contributions, I assume you are after {{USATF Official Master}}. With you as the only transclusion, I will provide the source, as follows:

{{Userbox |border-c=#000000 |border-s=1 |id-c=#FFFFFF |id-s=12 |id-fc=#FFFFFF |info-c=#0000FF |info-s=10 |info-fc=#FFFFFF |id=|info=This User is a <u><font color=white>[[USA Track & Field|USATF]]</font></u> Official Certified at the Master Level!}}

Let me know if you need anything else. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 03:34, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Paleolithic Diet reference help...

Hi. I saw your little note regarding my citation. Can you help me fix the mistake and explain how to make it proper? I'd really like to do things the right way. Thanks :)Lgkkitkat (talk) 22:11, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Here's the info... Hiatt, Kurtis. "Paleo Diet". http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/paleo-diet. U.S. News and World Report.Lgkkitkat (talk) 22:15, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

@Lgkkitkat: Hi! So you need help adding a reference? Not a problem. I noticed you did not add a title parameter to the reference you added, so that produced a visible error in the list of references. I've gone ahead and fixed this for you. For web citations a title is required, which is simply the title of the web page or article you are referencing. In the future, it may be easier to use the refToolbar to add references. That aside, I think your contributions look great.

I also noticed no one has formally welcome you to Wikipedia, so... welcome! See your talk page where I've added some useful links. If you help at any time hesitate to ask. Happy editing :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:30, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much :)

It's hard to find people who are willing to interact with me. But I'm able to spend time on these page edits. The technical aspects of getting the work done is hard. I made a horrible mess in the sandbox :) Lgkkitkat (talk) 14:40, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

@Lgkkitkat: That's what the sandbox is for! Mess it up all you like. When I first started, the cheatsheet was a big help. Note at the bottom of the list how to indent text. It is common practice on talk pages to indent your replies under the text you're replying to. More on talk pages at WP:TALK. By the way, the pages on Wikipedia policy and guidelines can be overwhelming large, which has always frustrated me as it seems problematic for newcomers. You seem to have the basics down, but I thought I'd make you aware of the five pillars which will break down the core policies into a more digestible format. Dive into the full sized pages as you become more curious about something, or just ask someone! — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:50, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Father Ted reversion

Hello!

I made that very, very, very brief addition, to make the description more accurate.

From this: "Dougal for something only referred to as the "Blackrock Incident" (resulting in many nuns "lives irreparably damaged")", you removed the word "nuns".

The use of the word "nuns" is completely accurate.

In the first episode that features Bishop Leonard Brennan, "The Passion of Saint Tibulus", the Bishop is berating Dougal for his past misconduct. Dougal defends himself, saying, "They were only nuns!" The Bishop shoots back, "NUNS ARE PEOPLE, TOO!" (emphasis theirs).

I made the description more accurate.

Please watch the episode again, if you don't believe me. It is at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wlsuEmPUl0 The relevant section starts at almost exactly the 10 minute mark. (Father Jack's wedding incident, that I also added, is mentioned at about the 9 1/2 minute mark).

I would appreciate it, if you would restore the word "nuns", as it changes the meaning of the sentence a great deal.

I do not want to get into a conflict over it, however.

Karl 71.218.221.189 (talk) 17:04, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

 Done My mistake! Sorry about that... and thanks for letting me know! — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:06, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

PS

Thank you.

Karl 71.218.221.189 (talk) 18:25, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

sanjh

Wassup — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.151.195.223 (talk) 14:55, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

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Hello from Douggie89

Hi, thank you very much for your help and fast response! I'm most grateful! I shall definitely contact you again should I need more help. Kind Regards. Douggie89 (talk) 16:27, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

No problem! — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:33, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Agreement

I 100 percent agree I am more than willing to discuss and go over any changes that have or are to be made because if no one discussed edits on wiki and everyone just edited as they wished the site would be a mess. Lukejordan02 (talk) 19:55, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

EDITOR

Hi the editor retrohead has completely ignored you and reverted the Megadeth discography page again I have reverted him but only to put it how it was when you said to discuss. Lukejordan02 (talk) 20:56, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello from Schoolskater (talk)

Hi, I was wondering whether you would be willing to train me to join the CVU. Please reply,Schoolskater (talk) 20:32, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

@Schoolskater: I'd love to be of help, but honestly I am unfamiliar with how the CVU Academy works and you may be better off consulting an active trainer of the program. There is a list at WP:CVSCHOOL – click on "Show" next to "List of available trainers". I am familiar with many of those editors and can attest they will be very helpful. Let me know if you are unable to find anyone. — MusikAnimal ^talk 20:38, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I tried finding some but I haven't gotten a reply from anyone. Schoolskater (talk) 20:39, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I've pinged a few editors on your talk page. Let's continue the search for a trainer there. Best — MusikAnimal ^talk 20:58, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

History_of_television

Thanks for fixing History_of_television, I was trying to find a decent clean edit, but you beat me to it ;) Happy Huggling! - Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 17:20, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

No problem. — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:23, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Might be interested in this

It seems like the "editor" had unusual habit.--Retrohead (talk) 09:15, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello from Paroles2000

Hello, MusikAnimal. I would like to seek your advice in dealing with a wiki member. In general I think I can deal with this member by myself, and I am willing to invest time and energy (both of which I will need), but... since I am not that experienced in Wikipedia community, I would just like to get an advice from a member like you, to get a third opinion. Could you please take a look at the article that I've been taking care of : Daniel Lavoie. Recently it caught attention of a Wiki member, curiously right after I painstakingly restored the article on Gilles Vigneault after it had been completely destroyed by that member [1] , [2]. That member then turned his attention to the article on Daniel Lavoie, attached three tags to it and began slowly deleting strings of text from it, one every few days: [3], [4], [5], [6]. Of course I assume good faith and I have agreed with several points of criticism, especially stylistical and corrected quite a few spots. However we are not nearly close to the removal of tags. My requests for clarifications produce threats to start deletions. You can read our correspondence on the "Talk" page. My question for you is: do you also think that all three tags are deserved? Is the article that bad? Any general advice for me? Thank you in advance, Paroles2000 (talk) 01:31, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

@Paroles2000: Glancing through, the article does have some peacock terms here and there, some neutrality issues, but overall it looks like it's in okay shape. The {{BLP sources}} tag is fair, anything likely to be challenged needs to be sourced, especially when dealing with living persons. The {{fanpov}} tag is unnecessary as it essentially says the same as the {{POV}} tag. Fancruft is something to be careful of, but there's nothing wrong with writing about something you're a fan of. I think your attitude toward dealing with this other editor is right on point. Assume they mean well and are trying to help you, and likewise they should assume you mean well in improving this article in a fair and neutral way. With this philosophy and polite discussion consensus should come naturally. Seek dispute resolution if necessary. Hope this helps. MusikVarmint ^talk 19:55, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

@MusikVarmint:Thank you very much for so generously spending your time with the article and for your comments, they are very helpful. I completely agree with you on all points, which makes me feel confident. Have a very nice day, Paroles2000 (talk) 18:53, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

@MusikVarmint:Hello, could I bother you one more time. My opponent is now threatening to delete the Filmography and the Awards section unless I provide in-line citations. Is this fair? As far as I know this is not done, unless the source infomation is obscure or difficult to confirm (in case of filmography), and I am not sure about the policy on the awards part, but most of those are referenced in the text of the article itself anyway. In general both the filmography and the list of awards were taken from the basic sources which are mentioned many times in the article. Shall I really provide the same in-line citation 50 times in a row? Just doesn't sound right. I'll appreciate your insight. Sincerely, Paroles2000 (talk) 15:40, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

@Paroles2000: First off, I don't like that you're calling this other editor your "opponent". Agreement/disagreement is nature of a collaborative environment, but you should instead think of each other as colleagues.

I found the subject's discography at Allmusic, considered a very reliable source. This may not be the actual convention, but I usually put the reference in the heading, so in this case next to "Studio albums". Add this Allmusic reference there, and any additional references that cover albums not listed at Allmusic. Unless it's contentious or likely to be challenged, there is no need to use inline citations in a list of works of art. See WP:DISCOGSTYLE#Citations and references for more. There's also allmovie.com, maybe you can find the subject's filmography there and use that in the same way. — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:16, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the "opponent", wrong choice of word. Thank you so much for the ideas, that's pretty much what I thought, and I think I know what to do next. By the way, is IMDb an OK source? Paroles2000 (talk) 16:01, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

@Paroles2000: Generally, no. See Wikipedia:External links/Perennial websites#IMDb and WP:RS/IMDB for more info. — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:08, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

I see! Thank you again for your patience and guidance! Paroles2000 (talk) 16:34, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Anytime :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:35, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

AFD nomination withdrawn

Hi. I have withdrawn this AFD nomination. As you are an admin and apparently onwiki now, could you close it out so I can remove it from my watchlist. Thanks! Quis separabit? 17:49, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Already  Done by Peridon. — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:51, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I know. I was just posting a note to let you know so you wouldn't waste your time at the same moment you were writing your note, hence edit conflict. Thanks anyway. Yours, Quis separabit? 17:54, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

User_talk:SAS81

Hi, the semi-protection on that page recently expired, and considering that there is a recent IP vandal in addition to the impersonator, the page should probably be semi'd again, no? vzaak 16:28, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

@Vzaak: I think that should be left up to SAS81. My talk page is regularly vandalized, but I personally don't want to shut out good-faith IPs and unregistered users. If he/she wants it semi'd again feel free to have them write back here. — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:35, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello from 117.192.31.188

Hi, Thanks for the message. I have a question though, how did you see my edit? IS there a recent changes patrol app or something like wikiHow has? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.31.188 (talk) 18:23, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Vandalism. — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:35, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

User:Fubritainfirst

This user has only continued the vandalism started by the two accounts I reported and is switching accounts in an attempt to avoid being blocked. In the context, it's also an unacceptable username: from Fu (disambiguation): "FU, F.U., F U, or F u may refer to: Abbreviation of Fuck you" which is almost certainly what's intended here. Peter James (talk) 20:28, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

 Done All three blocked as WP:NOTHERE, and with other IPs involved I semi-protected the page for a week. — MusikAnimal ^talk 20:52, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!

You certainly blocked User:67.84.73.254 quickly—thank you. I noticed, however, that the notice on the talk page doesn't give an expiration time for the block. Was this an oversight, or are you planning to monitor for awhile? Thanks again for your speedy help!—D'Ranged 1 VT^alk 00:17, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

@D'Ranged 1: No problem, clearly the same issues as in the past. I've updated the message with the duration. Note that when on a user's page or talk page, you can check for current blocks by viewing their contributions - click "Contribs" under the "More" menu at the top. At the top of that page there is also a link to the user's block log. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 00:31, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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Gadget-dropdown-menus.js

Hello @Stephen: @Edokter: @Amalthea:, sorry to ping you all. I noticed your comments regarding the Mediawiki:Gadget-dropdown-menus.js gadget. I also use this gadget, was frustrated the broke, but furthermore the effort it took when I attempted to fix it. I believe it was made many years ago, and the author is no longer active on Wikipedia. I wanted to let you know that I've been working on a newer, simpler implementation utilizing the Vector (and other) skin's native drop-down functionality and styling.

Once complete I will post at WP:GP and pending some peer review and testing, it will hopefully replace the old Gadget-dropdown-menus. If you'd like to try mine in the meantime, it's nearly complete with a few to-dos, just add the following to your global.js:

importScript('User:MusikAnimal/MoreMenu.js'); // Linkback: [[User:MusikAnimal/MoreMenu.js]]

No accompanying CSS file. This implementation offers the same functionality, with a few extra links to logs. This was written using basic jQuery with JavaScript objects for the list of links, so it should be fairly easy to add/remove links and customize as needed. Looks best in Vector skin right now. A work in progress, but I should have it all done in a few days. Hope this is of some help to someone. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:10, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good. I myself am not using the script though, I'm only interested in it when it breaks. ;) Amalthea 10:21, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Treason's Harbour

I'm not sure why you reverted all my edits to this article. I've read this novel at least twice now. My edits are intended to make the article more accurate and/or improve readability. What specifically are you disputing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Underhill459 (talk • contribs) 22:58, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

@Underhill459: Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I believe misinterpreted your usage of the word "molest". I've restored your changes. Apologies for the error! — MusikAnimal ^talk 23:02, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Underhill459 (talk • contribs) 23:06, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

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@Pharos: Hi, again I think it would be best if a timestamp were included in the invites. Anyhow, I do hope to make it out this time! Thanks — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:01, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Rusty Eye

Hi, I think you made a mistake. I got all the information on Rusty_Eye from a review article. It's completely neutral biographical information. Check my reference.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.170.79.99 (talk • contribs)

Hey! Mistakes do happen. Looks like I only meant to revert this change which I felt was a bit biased. The semi-automated tool that I use does not present prior edits in one diff, so I unwittingly reverted all of your edits. I've restored them and removed the peacock term. You can learn more about what words to watch for at WP:WORDS. Sorry for the mishap! — MusikAnimal ^talk 20:10, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Basha jamel

Hello Sir, Basha jamel is creating this page Bin Dawood Group of Companies again and again after deletion and I reprted at AIV. I keep my eyes on this user if he creates same page again. I being vandal fighter won't let such users go anyway. A.Minkowiski ^{_Lets t@lk} 15:28, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

@A.Minkowiski: As noted at AIV, I'll monitor the user. They have not created the page again since being warned. I can salt the page to add creation protection, but I usually wait till after third attempt before doing this. Thanks — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:38, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes I can understand, but I also have an eye on my watchlist all the time. Thank you A.Minkowiski ^{_Lets t@lk} 15:40, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

User talk page protection

Re your recent indef semi-protection of User talk:SkaterLife, I thought that WP:UPROT didn't apply to user talk pages? --David Biddulph (talk) 16:29, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: I was concerned if that was the case... silly of me not to look into this further. Thanks for calling me out. — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:36, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Another sock of Basha jamel

Hello, as I said I have been keeping my eyes on this user Basha jamel who has created another sock Bdssit and created the same page Bin Dawood Group of Companies again after deletion, now I think both socks should be blocked. My pleasure to inform you A.Minkowiski ^{_Lets t@lk} 08:22, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Sir, I have reported user for SPI here. A.Minkowiski ^{_Lets t@lk} 08:38, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

User is removing speedy tags again and again, I have requested Bin Dawood Group of Companies for semi protection here till SP case is solved. A.Minkowiski ^{_Lets t@lk} 08:52, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Looks like another admin has taken care of it, but did not block the user so I will leave it at that. With the page salted, I doubt there will be any further issues anyway. The user may try to recreate the page with lowercase letters or the like, and if so feel free to write back here or report to AIV. Thanks for being so on top of this! — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:21, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Both user accounts gone blocked for 2 weeks by another admin Jimfbleak when I reported user to him, because I was also wondering that the user will keep on spamming from these accounts. I don't let any vandal go away from my eyes. Thank you A.Minkowiski ^{_Lets t@lk} 16:03, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Mail

You have been mailed, please reply (if you wish to do so of course) in the same fashion. --AL (talk) 01:08, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

• "Tired" is a good bet, the fact that i, more than i would like to admit, assume WP:OWN manners (i am that passionate about my work) is another. Eight years was a good run, methinks.

But vandalism tops it all if you ask me, i'll never understand why these types do what they do, and i read once or twice one of them accusing (a) well-intended user(s) of having no life because they spent their time editing in WP. You have to have some nerve!

Hang in there, happy weekend --AL (talk) 04:07, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

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Hello from Cpalmertree

Hello,

How would a company updates their own information? What sort of verification do you need? My update was denied due to copy right issues but the update is coming from Zoës Kitchen. Please advise — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cpalmertree (talk • contribs) 16:21, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

@Cpalmertree: Hi, thanks for your interest in improving Wikipedia. Please understand that in almost every situation content cannot be simply copied and pasted from the web to Wikipedia. Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable, so all content must be free of copyright restrictions. You should put this content in your own words. See WP:COPYPASTE for more info. Aside from that, your changes appeared to contain promotional content. "Since opening the first restaurant, they have not wavered from the commitment to make food fresh daily and to serve customers in a warm and welcoming environment" has a very strong promotional tone, as if you were convincing the reader to go to the restaurant. Wikipedia is not a platform to advertise businesses. Try to stick to the facts and disregard any opinions. You can learn more at WP:NOT. Finally, you removed sourced content and replaced it with unsourced content. Everything on Wikipedia needs to be verifiable, so make sure any changes you make are accompanied with reliable sources. Looks like you make have tried to add sources but did so incorrectly. Learn how to add references at WP:REFBEGIN. Thanks and let me know if you need help! — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:35, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry

My brother did that deleting hes 4 years younger than me, i left while viewing he website, when i came back i saw the message. SO SORRY! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tlsslurp (talk • contribs) 17:45, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

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Grave dancing?

Is this necessary?[7] --Kansas Bear (talk) 01:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Not really. I've closed the discussion. — MusikAnimal ^talk 02:12, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

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The VisualEditor team is mostly working to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.

• They have moved the "Keyboard shortcuts" link out of the "Page options" menu, into the "Help" menu. Within dialog boxes, buttons are now more accessible (via the Tab key) from the keyboard.
• You can now see the target of the link when you click on it, without having to open the inspector.
• The team also expanded TemplateData: You can now add a parameter type  "date" for dates and times in the ISO 8601 format, and  "boolean" for values which are true or false. Also, templates that redirect to other templates (like {{citeweb}} → {{cite web}}) now get the TemplateData of their target (bug 50964). You can test TemplateData by editing mw:Template:Sandbox/doc.
• Category: and File: pages now display their contents correctly after saving an edit (bug 65349, bug 64239)
• They have also improved reference editing: You should no longer be able to add empty citations with VisualEditor (bug 64715), as with references. When you edit a reference, you can now empty it and click the "use an existing reference" button to replace it with another reference instead. 
• It is now possible to edit inline images with VisualEditor. Remember that inline images cannot display captions, so existing captions get removed. Many other bugs related to images were also fixed.
• You can now add and edit {{DISPLAYTITLE}} and __DISAMBIG__ in the "Page options" menu, rounding out the full set of page options currently planned.
• The tool to insert special characters is now wider and simpler.

Looking ahead

The VisualEditor team has posted a draft of their goals for the next fiscal year. You can read them and suggest changes on MediaWiki.org.

The team posts details about planned work on VisualEditor's roadmap. You will soon be able to drag-and-drop text as well as images. If you drag an image to a new place, it won't let you place it in the middle of a paragraph. All dialog boxes and windows will be simplified based on user testing and feedback. The VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for citations. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments and adding rows and columns to tables.

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Renewed edit-warring

Could you please take a look at Ragdeenorc and his recent edits at Kurgan? Bloch has aspired, and straight back to edit-warring. Thanks, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:04, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

[talk page stalker] Before any blocks are handed out, I'd really like to see if dispute resolution can work this out :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ^{♪ 話 ♪} ߷ _{♀ 投稿 ♀} 08:02, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Agree. They could even start by simply discussing the issue at the talkpage, and try to come to compromise. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 10:57, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Looks like dispute resolution was declined due to lack of discussion. Meanwhile perhaps the discussion over at WP:FT/N will amount to something. I've warned the users about edit warring yet again, stressing the need for talk page discussion, but as long as there's no further disruption to the article there's no reason to block at this time. Blocking is merely a preventive measure. Thanks to you both for helping sort this out. — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:15, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

List of countries by population

There is an innacuracy pertaining to the numbering of countries and independencies of this address:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population; I would like to know if you would correct it. The numrerical sequence deviates begging at number 170.

My apologies for the prior message concerning pagehttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population, the error is only that the number 170 goes to 172 followed by 173. Also the number 202 is repeated.The rest of the numbers are correct.

Thank You 66.87.132.81 (talk) 01:40, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Hey there. If you would like to suggest changes to this article, go here to view the source, then click the "Submit an edit request" button. — MusikAnimal ^talk 01:43, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry

Forgive me for messing up your talk page with the automated message. I forget that the page creator sometimes don't need a notification. Sjö (talk) 19:00, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

@Sjö: No worries! Notifying the page creator was the right thing to do, and presumably in your case was done automatically. That account was blocked as {{spamusernameblock}} and apparently they decided to use the talk page for advertising. Perhaps they were confused, not sure... so instead of deleting I simply restored the useful block message and revoked their talk page access. — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:04, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

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Possible page-move needed for Avial

Hey there, If you look closely at the title of Avial when you open the page, you'll notice that it's in italics. Since this is related to the band itself, and their eponymous album Avial isn't notable enough for a separate page...isn't this a MOS issue? Then how do we page-move it when it's basically the same title sans the italics? I tried, doesn't work...not even sure how remove the italics from its title when it isn't even shown at the page-move option. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 07:57, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

@Ugog Nizdast: Hey there, {{Italic title}} or DISPLAYTITLE are what normally do the magic, but here title is italicized because of the {{Infobox album}} template used in the Discography section. That template automatically italicizes the page name since the title of all albums should be italicized, and generally we only have one infobox for the subject of the page, not sections therein. You could add the parameter |Italic title=no to {{Infobox album}} to disable the auto-italics, but in my opinion there shouldn't be an infobox for the album, especially since there is not very much information being conveyed in it. — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:47, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your time, I did it...I had no idea that the infobox was responsible for the page title or for that matter even about DISPLAY TITLE. Though the infobox wasn't added by me and I don't mind removing it, I'll keep it just because of the cover art. Good day, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 19:48, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

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Stephen W. Worth

OK, the whole page for Steve Worth needs to be overhauled. It's his fucking resume and HE writes it himself; he's "ahaarchive." Either whittle it down to a standard bio card or just get it the fuck out of here. It's disgusting. -- A disgruntled user. Dontcallmedarkie (talk) 01:49, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

@Dontcallmedarkie: I agree the article is in bad shape, but vandalizing it does not help. Consider finding constructive ways to improve it. — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:29, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Downtown Magazine NYC

As you deleted the Downtown Magazine NYC article, I wanted to inform you that it has been recreated, and I don't feel it is any different than it was before so I renominated it; if you could look at it and make a determination either way, it would be appreciated. 331dot (talk) 16:44, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll pass it on to another admin, but I think A7 may apply this time around. — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:02, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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Hello from Passionate about 98

why did you delete my wikipedia page? wikipedia/wiki/Alliance_Global_Group Passionate about 98 (talk) 16:52, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

@Passionate about 98: Hello! The author of Alliance Global Group was notified about the speedy deletion rationale on their talk page. If you are the same user, you should make yourself aware of the policy regarding using multiple accounts. — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:02, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello from 173.184.121.53

I didn't edit that page at all. in fact i didn't even know about it. You must have mistaken me for some one else. The page i edited was the marvel cinematic universe page. 173.184.121.53 (talk) 17:43, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Hey! Please see your contributions. The edit was made over a month ago by someone editing from your IP address. IPs are often dynamic or shared amongst many people, so if it was not you who made the edit you should simply ignore the message. You may consider creating an account to avoid receiving these messages in the future. — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:52, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Rollback use

From the section you linked to, "The above restrictions apply to standard rollback, using the generic edit summary. If a tool or manual method is used to add an appropriate explanatory edit summary (as described in the Additional tools section below), then rollback may be freely used as with any other method of reverting." I've used Twinkle's rollback function tens of thousands of times with appropriate edit summaries and have received no complaints about my usage. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:12, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

@NeilN: Good to know some clarification was staring me in the face at Wikipedia:Rollback#When to use rollback, but I was merely noting that Twinkle's features are not equivalent to undo. The guideline could probably still use a facelift. Thanks for your input — MusikAnimal ^talk 01:45, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

User:Innovative Centre for Biosciences

May i know why the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Innovative_Centre_for_Biosciences (Innovative Centre for Biosciences) has been removed.

Kindly share so that we can help to edit contents. Prajil87 (talk) 08:22, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

@Prajil87: Hey there! The rationale for the deletion of the page should be visible at User:Innovative Centre for Biosciences. There was also a message left on the talk page. In short, the page appeared contained copyrighted material gathered from a variety of sources, namely icbiocro.com. Everything on Wikipedia has to be free of copyright restrictions, as we aim to make all content freely distributable. If you are the author of that text, you will need to change the website to state it released under a compatible license, or you could donate it for use on Wikipedia. See WP:DONATETEXT for more information. It may be easier to simply reword the content altogether.

If you wish to create this article again I recommend you submit it for review so that other editors can help refine it and ensure it doesn't get deleted again. You can use the article wizard to expedite this process.

Your original account was also blocked per our username policy, as it implied that multiple users may be editing under it. Similarly your new account should also be used by only one person. Any other contributors should have their own respective accounts. Hope this helps! — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:15, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

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Hi MusikAnimal, Thanks for your third opinion, insights and guidance on the talk page of Kasowitz, Benson, Torres & Friedman.The article as a whole was in violation of NPOV and UNDUE, based on my review of all the sources and content. Therefore I made some bold edits (summarized here on the talk page) to neutralize the POV and also added new content and improve the formatting for the citations. If you have any time, please take a look at it and improve/edit as you see fit. Also, I've given new user Omaharodeo an education on WP behavioral policy on their talk page and your comments or input are welcome there as well. [8]. Many thanks for all your contributions on WP! Cheers, -- — Keithbob • Talk • 01:09, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

@Keithbob: Hey, sorry for the delayed response. Kasowitz, Benson, Torres & Friedman is looking much better now, I think. Thanks for helping clean it up. I am a bit busy with other things... so I may not be able to help out much here. I have added templates for some relevant WikiProjects on the talk page. While I'm heavily involved with WP:NYC, I honestly have very limited knowledge or interest in WP:LAW, so I have not assessed the article's quality or importance, as I feel I may not the best person to ask. If assessment or a broader consensus on something is needed you may wish to reach out to those WikiProjects. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:47, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

That's very helpful, thank you. Cheers!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 18:43, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Sirma Solutions

Hello,

why did you delete my post about Sirma Solutions?

I do not agree it was advertising, it was just stating general facts about the company, just like many other articles in Wikipedia.

What was wrong about it? 93.123.103.130 (talk) 08:03, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Hey! I admit this was borderline G11 criteria. A more appropriate rationale would fall under WP:FAKEARTICLE, where with the blocking of the account the page would lay dormant, resembling an actual article. I apologize as this was unfairly not made clear. As for the block itself... the username implied the account may be shared amongst multiple users, which violates our username policy. Feel free to create a new account that represents you as a sole editor. Any other editors working for your organization should have their own respective accounts.

Once you've made an account, I will happily move over your work that lived at User:Sirma Solutions. From there, you can add sources to make sure it is verifiable. Once complete, I recommend submitting it for review so other editors can critique it and help refine it before publishing it to the mainspace. You can use the article wizard to expedite this process. Let me know if you need help! — MusikAnimal ^talk 20:23, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Please block me

204.169.115.104 (talk) 20:29, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I see that your school IP has indeed caused some disruption. I've added a {{shared IP edu}} notice on the talk page. I'm simply not comfortable blocking beyond normal protocol, which for me would take another act of vandalism and I would only block for 31 hours. Other admins may feel different, but don't expect an indefinite block. — MusikAnimal ^talk 00:12, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Barilla Group

Hello! I noticed that the Controversy section of the article on the Barilla Group has been removed again, again by an anonymous IP address that has done little or nothing else. As you're an editor who defended the section in the past, did you want to step in again? Or do you have advice for less experienced readers on how to handle something like this (e.g. whether seeing it defended by an experienced editor is enough that we should reinstate his or her edits even though we are not as conversant on the formal rules and rationales, or whether we should contact the editor so they can make the change again if they still feel it's warranted, etc.) I also see in the history that editor Mark Arsten said he protected the page, but later DumbBOT says "removing protection template from a non-protected page"; I'm not sure whether that means he didn't successfully protect it, or if the protection was removed without a comment I can spot. Any advice for handling this sort of thing in the future would be appreciated. Thanks! GCL (talk) 19:32, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

@GCL: Hi! I've chimed in with my input on the talk page. Feel free to do the same. In this sort of situation discussion always the best place to start. Consensus can shed light on what to do with the concerned content. Sometimes a third-opinion is needed, or if things get heated, dispute resolution. Mark semi-protected the article way back in September for about 10 days. After it automatically expired, DumbBOT correctly removed the visible pad-lock icon from the page. If disruption continues we may need to semi-protect again. Hope this helps! — MusikAnimal ^talk 00:59, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Spirit Soul and Body in the bible CSD

Hi there, I see that you deleted a recreated talk page for this article after I posted a note for the user who recreated it. Could you please recover that note and post to the user's talk page instead? I'm not watching the user's page and can't look up who it is, but I think you should have access to the deleted history. Thanks. Ivanvector (talk) 15:21, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

@Ivanvector: I should have probably already done this, sorry about that. The user was Arktiskblomma. I'll let you post the note so proper attribution can be given. Your comment was as follows:

Preformatted comment collapsed for aesthetics

:Hello {{ul|Arktiskblomma}}. The article you created was deleted because it duplicates the topic of an article that already exists, namely [[Soul in the Bible]]. When another editor redirected your article to the existing one, you overwrote the redirect multiple times, thus your article was deleted (I requested it). If you see an opportunity to improve the article which already exists on this topic, you should work on that article instead. If I am mistaken and you think that your article is for a different topic from the one which already exists, then there is a process to request undeletion called [[WP:DRV|Deletion Review]]. :Alternatively you can ask someone with the ability to move your article to your user space so that you can work on it. Have a look at the [[:Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles|list of administrators who will consider "userfying" an article]]. :Thanks and happy editing. ~~~~

Let me know if you need anything else. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:49, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Done. I collapsed the section above so that your talk page doesn't look horrible. :) Ivanvector (talk) 18:00, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

No problem, and thank you! — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:01, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Huggle feature

Hey! Seen you're using Huggle. Just wanted to ask if you have used Ctrl+B (Windows) ⌘ Cmd+B (Mac) either is your using Linux, it blocks the user without having to open the browser and using Special:Block, it also adds a block template to the target user talk page. Best, ///EuroCarGT 23:53, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

@EuroCarGT: I don't know how I compare to the other guys, but in detail... I never block without examining the user's editing history (was it really vandalism), talk page (make sure they were properly warned), filter log (says a lot about the user), block log, and for IPs the WHOIS (is it a school/anon block?), etc. Not sure if Huggle has all that, but if were able to compile that on one screen that would be incredible! The recent editing history at the very least I believe should always be checked. Thanks for the tip, anyway. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 01:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Good thing you check before any further action! But Huggle lists if the users has received significant user warnings (up to level 4), I also think it checks the filter log you could always check Special:AbuseLog for the recent edits the user has made. ///EuroCarGT 01:55, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Garbage (album)

Hi. I just want to know there's a huge objection on talk page for adding "pop" genre in the infobox. Allmusic reviewer says an alternative rock album, however, he added "comes off as pop". I think "pop" that means a style or a hook, not an actual proper genre. 183.171.167.218 (talk) 00:53, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

"Huge" is right! While we all have our opinions, you need reliable sources stating the album is associated with any particular genre. Going through the debate will take considerable time that I don't have right now, but I'm happy to close it later if you feel closure is needed. You may also wish to reach out to the music genres task force on their talk page. — MusikAnimal ^talk 02:13, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

The Swain School

Hi! You took the speedy deletion tag off The Swain School. Redirects are indeed cheap; I'd hoped that whoever deleted it for the copyvio would then go ahead and re-create it. Perhaps I should have left a note to say so. Anyway, could I ask you either to do that, as our policy requires for foundational copyvio, or to revdelete the history to remove it from the sight of us ordinary mortals? Either would be fine with me, I just requested the former as the quicker and (from what little I understand) easier path. Many thanks for all the good stuff you do, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

 Done Thank you! — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:33, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

I saw! Many thanks indeed, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:02, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

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Hello from Dr. Alan Godlas

Hi, Sir I'm a new User of English Wikimedia. I created an article about Syed Shahzad Ali Najmi very honestly that you have removed brutally with the copyright objection.There are a lot of information in Wikipedia articles and images have been taken from another website, Why are they in Wikipedia? When history is written as if every writer converts this information? Sir You better know Wikipedia So my article would be restored by editing yourself.I hope you would have understood my purpose. My English is weak Because of this, I'm sorry. Thanks.--Dr. Alan Godlas (talk) 09:40, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

@Dr. Alan Godlas: Hello! First off I wanted to formally welcome you to Wikipedia. Now, allow me to explain the policy behind copyright and why your page had to be deleted. The page appeared to be mostly copied and pasted from silsila-e-khizria.webs.com/about. There is no copyright notice on that website, but legally we have to assume it is copyrighted unless it says it is not. If you own that website, you can add a notice to say that the text is free distributable under a compatible license, or that it is in the public domain. See WP:DONATETEXT for more on how to legally copy material from a website to Wikipedia. It may be easier to simply reword your article altogether.

We treat images a little differently. Sometimes they are needed for illustration. We're able to use copyrighted images under what's called fair use. This does not apply to text, however, which is why your article had to be deleted.

You should be aware that new articles on Wikipedia must also meet our notability guideline. This means the subject, "Syed Shahzad Ali Najmi", must be a well-known person in order to have an article on Wikipedia.

Because of the copyright violation, I cannot restore or give you the original text that was deleted. So, here's my recommendation: You can create the article again from scratch, but this time submit it for review. This way other more experienced editors can help you refine it and ensure it won't get deleted again. To do this using the article wizard. Let me know if you need anymore help! — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:48, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello from Dr. Alan Godlas

Sir. May I Create a New Article Again About Dr. Syed Shahzad Ali Najmi Without any Copyright Issue? --Dr. Alan Godlas (talk) 18:18, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

@Dr. Alan Godlas: Absolutely! See my reply above. Use the article wizard to create the article again, then you can submit it for review. I'm happy to help if need be. — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:21, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

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Apologies from adnansibtain12345

Apolgies for the unconstructive edit, i thought it was 15 August,maybe my younger brother had canged it while i was not looking.I am deeply sorry for this.:( Adnansibtain12345 (talk) 15:38, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Bot reports at AIV

To be honest I usually don't handle bot reports there, since the basis for some of them is not obvious to an untrained eye. For that same reason I really can't help you with the filters, as that's well beyond my expertise. Daniel Case (talk) 05:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Civility Barnstar
	Thanks for keeping the situation under control on my talk page. There's not many people like you these days, and when there are there is very few. I appreciate people like you! ☯SkaterLife☯ talk 13:57, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you SkaterLife! Hope everything is otherwise going great for you. — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:05, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Please Block me Temporarily

Hey User:MusikAnimal. I've officially become addicted to Wikipedia. The bad thing is, its interfering with my schoolwork. Could you please block me for a week? I beg you. I need to get my schoolwork done! Thanks,☯SkaterLife☯ talk 17:10, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

I would suggest waiting for a few hours to see SK's reaction to the gadget suggested at the Teahouse. Thanks, Matty.007 17:15, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

@SkaterLife: Well I hate to hear your work on Wikipedia is becoming a problem, but I commend you for putting your schoolwork first. I agree with Matty.007 that you should consider using the script to help enforce a wikibreak. If it does not prove effective, and you are serious about your wish to take a break – even if permanent – you can contact one of the administrators listed at Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to consider placing self-requested blocks. Self-blocks can be controversial. Frankly, I'm not comfortable with them, so I cannot help you there. Best of wishes to your future on Wikipedia :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:11, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Just when you thought it was safe to come out... SL gets blocked. Thanks, Matty.007 18:13, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

And unblocked. Thanks, Matty.007 18:15, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes let's talk next week

Hi again MusikAnimal,

Sorry only seeing your message now, as I have again deleted the content. I understand your point of view, and respect your way of dealing with it. So happy to work with you next week, happy to work on a text myself. It would be a real shame that Alkarama's reputation and work be damaged by yet another defamation campaign.

Would it be possible to communicate with you in another way than through Wikipedia. Not that we have anything to hide, just that I don't find it a very convenient tool.

Or I can just send you the text I will prepare on Wikipedia and take it from there? It might take some time, but we'll get there, and you'll be surprised...

Thanks Colombe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colombeverges (talk • contribs) 18:13, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

@Colombeverges: If you would like you can email me. However, any content you plan to put on Wikipedia is best to be discussed on wiki. That we can get other editors involved in a collaborative effort. We can use the article wizard to start a draft article. It will not be in the mainspace until it is reviewed and published. This is generally the best route when you are unsure about the content. Not to worry, though, Monday I'll be back around and we can work on it then. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:34, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

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Participate in discussion about Media Viewer follow-up study

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Hello from Colombeverges

Hi MusikAnimal,

Thanks for your message and for watching over that important content not be deleted from some pages without any reason.

It was the first time I was editing a page, and I didn't see that I needed to leave a reason.

The reason why I removed the content is that I work for Alkarama (I'm the new Media Coordinator) and a colleague from our legal team asked me if I could rewrite the page to leave no misunderstanding as to our Founder's designation as a "Specifically Designed Terrorist".

The fact that the US named him a terrorist without justification whatsoever, and that no other country has designated him a terrorist, should rather raise questions as to what the reasons were for the US to designate him as a terrorist.

Abd al-Rahman Omair Al Naimi is the president of the Alkarama's Foundation Council, and Alkarama is a very respected human rights organisation working on a daily basis with the United Nations to send communications with regards to the most sever human rights abuses in the Middle East and North Africa. Uncovering the responsibility of specific Arabic states has costed Alkarama which has made a lot of enemies in some states, in particular in Gulf countries which have a good relationship with the US.

There is no doubt that Al Naimi was victim of a smear campaign, but since the US does not have to give the proofs of what it wrongly claims, it is unlikely that Al Naimi will ever completely recover from this.

The reason why I was asked to remove this page, is that we are trying to push victims and local NGOs to communicate to us the violations they've been the victims of. We are worried however that they would be scared by this information on Alkarama's page.

The accusations on Al Naimi were made on his own person and not on our organisation. Al Naimi even wanted to resign not to tarnish our organisation's reputation and harm our mission. But our Foundation Council refused, since nobody ever doubted these allegations to be true.

Now if you want to create a page on Al Naimi and link it to Alkarama, feel free, but it would just not be fair, for all the hard work we put in protecting individuals subjected or at risk of the most severe human rights abuses, that our mission be damaged by such terrible and terribly false allegations.

I hope you understand, and allow me to remove the text or help me remove it yourself, until I have a little more time - probably next week - to rewrite an article about this.

Please let me know what you think.

All the best, Colombe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colombeverges (talk • contribs) 15:17, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

@Colombeverges: Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Unfortunately, I do not currently have the time to assess the veracity of these claims. While patrolling recent changes, I merely noticed you removed a large portion of sourced material without explaining why. Please provide an edit summary so that others are aware of your intentions.

Without diving to deep into this case, I will say that it's important to understand that Wikipedia must respect all viewpoints, negative and positive. We cannot remove content simply because we disagree with it, but at the same time we do not want to lend undue weight toward a specific viewpoint. We must aim to make everything neutral in tone and verifiable with reliable sources.

I am happy to help you with this next week. Shall we get in touch then? — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:48, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

I was the editor who wrote that section, and will join in the discussion when you have it. The section gives a chronology of what happened: al Naimi was declared a terrorist by the US DoT, in response to which Amnesty said nothing, but another group shouted plainly "BS!". The national media followed with its own reporting, which was largely copy-pasted directly from the DoT press release, and DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED ALKARAMA WITH AL NAIMI, in some cases associating it in its list of Muslim-terrorist-charity-front organizations.

I dug around to get at all the sources I could find -- financial info, old news outlets (Al Humaiqani was named exactly once in all the news archived ever by or about Alkarama) -- and it pretty much confirmed that the alleged financing of terrorist activities would be painfully circumstantial, and even if it weren't, Al Humaiqani has had almost no association with Alkarama's operations since its founding, and Al Naimi's accusation is based almost exclusively on his association with Al Humaiqani. The counterpoint that this was a political attack at Alkarama itself by the US as retaliation for their criticism doesn't make much sense to me -- it seems much more likely to be an indirect political attack/maneuver against Al Naimi or Yemen or something.

Anyway, the next step was to put these findings into the article, which resulted in the section you see. I studied journalism and try to write objective content while making my assessment clear enough, but if that's not the case here, feel free to edit.

But the fact remains that the entire US news media reported on this between the initial DoT press release, Al Naimi's response, Amnesty's lack of response, and Al Naimi's resignation. These articles are permanently archived on all the various blogs, so when somebody googles "Alkarama", they will see a articles with big headlines like "Terrorists For Human Rights" (DailyKos). Almost no blogs or news outlets did the research to at least get some assessment of the claims (otherwise I would have had way less work to do). The accusation and its damage are permanently archived online, so this WP article does its job for clarifying the truth of the matter for those curious about the organization by keeping this section. SamuelRiv (talk) 21:47, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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No problem! Thanks for the WikiLove :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:14, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello from Nutritionman

Trying to find out how to get my article about nutrition and health conscious items returned so I can utilize the article in a more proper environment Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nutritionman (talk • contribs)

@Nutritionman: Hi there, please see the messages left on your talk page. All of your previous contributions imply you are trying to gear readers toward the website amway.com/tylersylvester. Please understand Wikipedia is not a platform to promote businesses or an idea, see WP:NOTPROMOTION. Any constructive edits about nutrition or other interests you may have are otherwise welcomed. I recommend taking a moment to review the basic fundamentals behind Wikipedia. Let me know if you need help, thanks. — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:04, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Mark Greenaway

Hi,

I noticed you have deleted the page I created for Mark Greenaway. This page was created on the request of Mr Greenaway and he holds full copyright of the text used on his website. I emailed this to the address as requested.

How can I have the page reinstated?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caitchison92 (talk • contribs) 08:14, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

@Caitchison92: Looks like you have recreated the page and roughly paraphrased it. You should still proceed with submitting approval of reusing the content on Wikipedia. The subject certainly meets the notability guideline, and this time around it looks far less promotional. I've made some small contributions and added the relevant WikiProject banners to the talk page. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:50, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

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